The 2026 Draft Thread - Day 2

[skinsinparadise]

Agree entirely that this is what’s going on. Because now that they had their first and second tier (and third tier?) WR targets in FA spurn them, they aren’t guaranteed to find a solution. It’s a little out of their hands now. They could be shut out of having a chance at Tate, even Tyson (if they even like him). They could not be in a place to draft the other late 1st/early-to-mid 2nd types. They might miss out on top of 3rd level talents just due to bad luck or inability to trade around where they desire.

Quinn’s talking himself into alternative silver linings bc they aren’t in control at this point.

I think if we’re being honest, looking back they maybe would choose to go harder at a Nailor type and skip wasting time on the bigger names with other preferred destinations. They can’t make that choice now, but it’s clear they need to scramble a bit and even then it’s not guaranteed they can fix this.

Not ideal, especially after last offseason’s lack of WR work. They certainly tried really hard this FA period, and I’m sure they’ll do so again in the draft. But trying hard and failing isn’t going to save their jobs if they don’t find a way to support their QB more this season.

Yeah agree. It would be one thing if this was year 1 on this front but if they fail in year 3 to give Jayden weapons and it derails the season -- IMO this regime needs to go. Especially if you factor how aggressive Peters' compatriot GMs have been from that same draft to load up their young QBs.

Feels like their strategy this time was:

A. Pierce target #1
B. Doubs target #2
C. Jennings target #3

And heck they will land one AND Aiyuk who will be released around FA. So they will be loaded. And they will land one of these guys because they will outbid if need be.

And heck if anything goes awry

A. Tate at 7.

But the best laid plans, fell apart

Pierce stayed in Indy, Doubs chose to go to NE, Jennings has his head in the clouds and wants 20 million. The 49ers decided to play hardball with Aiyuk. And heck now it looks like Tate won't get past Cleveland.

So there is a least a scenario where they might strike out on all of this. And hearing Quinn explain how it can work with the current WR room, it was too detailed for me to see it as some BS I have my players back rhetoric. It sounded like they convinced themselves it won't be too bad if it unfolds like this.

My guess is WR is hot on their agenda this draft. But Peters does stick to his guns on BPA so they might not take one. Plus the deeper down you go in the draft the more likely whatever WR they take is a project.

As for me, if this season goes south because of WR, there is no coming back from it, I am not interested in a discussion when the season ends if they missed the playoffs about Peters did so well in so many spots, give him year 4 and he will fix WR.

 

[method man]

They are certainly poking around some of the CB-S nickel types -- K. Scott, Kilgore. I can see that. Stukes, Logan's guy fits this profile but I don't think they met with him.

I'd be surprised if they took a safety at 71. But if they did, I'd be cool with it, someone like Bud Clark, Haulcy.

From what I've gathered about that defense because it so split safety driven, and rare as for usage of single high, that they might not be so dependant on the idea of a post safety.

At 71 I am guessing its a Wr or CB, based on the general vibe I get from listening to podcasts and the meetings they've had so far. If its a safety to me its likely a hybrid corner-safety one like Keionte Scott.

Every day it seems I read about another CB zoom mention or a player mentioning they've talked to Washington. But definitely some nickle CB types who can play safety, too.

I would be overjoyed if we took any of Clark, Haulcy or Scott. I think all these guys have plus starter upside

 

[RedWolf]

Yeah agree. It would be one thing if this was year 1 on this front but if they fail in year 3 to give Jayden weapons and it derails the season -- IMO this regime needs to go. Especially if you factor how aggressive Peters' compatriot GMs have been from that same draft to load up their young QBs.

Feels like their strategy this time was:

A. Pierce target #1
B. Doubs target #2
C. Jennings target #3

And heck they will land one AND Aiyuk who will be released around FA. So they will be loaded. And they will land one of these guys because they will outbid if need be.

And heck if anything goes awry

A. Tate at 7.

But the best laid plans, fell apart

Pierce stayed in Indy, Doubs chose to go to NE, Jennings has his head in the clouds and wants 20 million. The 49ers decided to play hardball with Aiyuk. And heck now it looks like Tate won't get past Cleveland.

So there is a least a scenario where they might strike out on all of this. And hearing Quinn explain how it can work with the current WR room, it was too detailed for me to see it as some BS I have my players back rhetoric. It sounded like they convinced themselves it won't be too bad if it unfolds like this.

My guess is WR is hot on their agenda this draft. But Peters does stick to his guns on BPA so they might not take one. Plus the deeper down you go in the draft the more likely whatever WR they take is a project.

As for me, if this season goes south because of WR, there is no coming back from it, I am not interested in a discussion when the season ends if they missed the playoffs about Peters did so well in so many spots, give him year 4 and he will fix WR.

My fear

 

[skinsinparadise]

I've been watching him on and off.

Weird back as to traits IMO. From the last class to me sort of a cross between RJ Harvey and Giddens. Good jump cut, spin move -- he often runs in a non linear fashion where he's spinning as he goes so sometimes its hard to get leverage on him to take him down. Like Harvey, he likes to bounce things outside and has really good hands.

He has some sick production. He dances a little bit too much for me once he gets to that 2nd level especially. Doesn't have great power or speed. Good vision -- looks like a good zone runner.

To use a baseball analogy, he sort of has a 88 MPH fastball, changes his speeds well, good control, nothing special but high floor.

 

[skinsinparadise]

With Lance, I just don't know how anyone without access to Lance's games can tell. Just watching what I can find, he runs by scrub CBS, is a body catcher, and is an older prospect.

Can he turn into a really good WR, maybe, you got me, but its so hard IMO to tell with the info that I can find. I am more intrigued by Ted Hurst, speaking of a tall athletic WR who played for a small school -- but again not much footage of him either -- but to me he is a hands catcher (even though he had a good share of drops) and has quicker feet than Lance.

Either is a roll of a dice and wouldn't hate it. But lean towards Hurst as far as what I can tell from the limited info I can access.

 

[skinsinparadise]

I wonder where Deion Burks goes? 3rd to 5th round? I think that dude has potential as a slot albiet he played more outside than slot in his career.

Had a DUI, but supposedly good character. Really shifty and quick. Good hands. Freakish combine numbers.

 

[Primus Porcus]

With Lance, I just don't know how anyone without access to Lance's games can tell. Just watching what I can find, he runs by scrub CBS, is a body catcher, and is an older prospect.

Can he turn into a really good WR, maybe, you got me, but its so hard IMO to tell with the info that I can find. I am more intrigued by Ted Hurst, speaking of a tall athletic WR who played for a small school -- but again not much footage of him either -- but to me he is a hands catcher (even though he had a good share of drops) and has quicker feet than Lance.

Either is a roll of a dice and wouldn't hate it. But lean towards Hurst as far as what I can tell from the limited info I can access.

He is a roll of the dice, it's the physical attributes that jump off the page.

 

[skinsinparadise]

He is a roll of the dice, it's the physical attributes that jump off the page.

No doubt. And i am ok with betting on physical freaks, he's certainly that. Though if I am doing that, deep threat-speedster -- I like what I see a little more from Ted Hurst (2 years younger than Lance) and Brenan Thompson too. But lol if past is prologue all three are more likely to bust than succeed.

De-Zhaun Stribling, I probably go with over those three, if i am going for a third rounder type with great speed -- but he's more of a YAC guy than a deep threat.

Like most projects, the wildcard is what kind of people are they? And alas we don't have much access to that.

 

[Primus Porcus]

No doubt. And i am ok with betting on physical freaks, he's certainly that. Though if I am doing that, deep threat-speedster -- I like what I see a little more from Ted Hurst (2 years younger than Lance) and Brenan Thompson too. But lol if past is prologue all three are more likely to bust than succeed.

De-Zhaun Thompson, I probably go with over those three, if i am going for a third rounder type with great speed -- but he's more of a YAC guy than a deep threat.

Like most projects, the wildcard is what kind of people are they? And alas we don't have much access to that.

I will also take a moment to freely admit that I tend to get googly eyes with the physicals in one conversation, then go back to what we talked about on the most recent pod about how 40 times are a very small metric in how we should be evaluating talent... rationally I understand, but I do get caught up on the shiny new object sometimes.

 

[skinsinparadise]

I will also take a moment to freely admit that I tend to get googly eyes with the physicals in one conversation, then go back to what we talked about on the most recent pod about how 40 times are a very small metric in how we should be evaluating talent... rationally I understand, but I do get caught up on the shiny new object sometimes.

I get it. Physical freaks who can catch the deep ball -- with this team's needs it feels especially exciting.

For me though based on past experiences, I really got to watch full games to get a feel for players espcially WRs, because if all you see is their success, it gives a scewed version of that player.

So for me for Hurst and Lance I have a hard time landing on a hard take. But I totally get the excitement behind taking players with freakish athleticism.

I love listening to Logan Paulsen, and he falls for these type of players a lot -- he likes the freak athletes.

I do too but I've gotten more cynical about it especially at WR over the years. But you never know.

 

[DWinzit]

I've been watching him on and off.

Weird back as to traits IMO. From the last class to me sort of a cross between RJ Harvey and Giddens. Good jump cut, spin move -- he often runs in a non linear fashion where he's spinning as he goes so sometimes its hard to get leverage on him to take him down. Like Harvey, he likes to bounce things outside and has really good hands.

He has some sick production. He dances a little bit too much for me once he gets to that 2nd level especially. Doesn't have great power or speed. Good vision -- looks like a good zone runner.

To use a baseball analogy, he sort of has a 88 MPH fastball, changes his speeds well, good control, nothing special but high floor.

Interesting that they have a to 30 meeting with Johnson. That must be with a thought a pick 71. I hope they are meeting with him I hope they meet with Jonah Coleman, he is my favorite outside of Love.

 

[skinsinparadise]

Interesting that they have a to 30 meeting with Johnson. That must be with a thought a pick 71. I hope they are meeting with him I hope they meet with Jonah Coleman, he is my favorite outside of Love.

I agreed with you previously that Coleman won't be there at 71 but upon further digestion I've changed my mind. Seems like he might fall to there or even lower I see among other things Brugler has him in the 4-5 round range. PFF which seemed the highest on him has him in the third.

I've watched him in real time, not studied him yet. Bruiser with good hands. I assume it hasn't helped that he didn't run. He doesn't look fast.

I am warming up some to Nick Singleton. Broken foot so that should help him fall. Some say 4.3 speed. Breakaway runner, good size, good hands, good pass protector. Not the most creative runner, sort of like Mike Washington, relies on his physical gifts, but in the 5th round range I'd be in.

 

[DWinzit]

No doubt. And i am ok with betting on physical freaks, he's certainly that. Though if I am doing that, deep threat-speedster -- I like what I see a little more from Ted Hurst (2 years younger than Lance) and Brenan Thompson too. But lol if past is prologue all three are more likely to bust than succeed.

De-Zhaun Stribling, I probably go with over those three, if i am going for a third rounder type with great speed -- but he's more of a YAC guy than a deep threat.

Like most projects, the wildcard is what kind of people are they? And alas we don't have much access to that.

Lance Is a size speed freak but leaves me concerned he will have trouble getting free from press coverage and how good he is with his route running. He would be great as just a run down the field but we all know Jayden would have trouble depending on him to be where he should if he faces the two mentioned issues.

We could find the staff needing to develop Lance before he can be a large contributor. If that is the case, I don't think he is worth it. The staff has been working on developing Lane and Luke and White they have shown promise, still have a way to go in my book.

 

[DWinzit]

I agreed with you previously that Coleman won't be there at 71 but upon further digestion I've changed my mind. Seems like he might fall to there or even lower I see among other things Brugler has him in the 4-5 round range. PFF which seemed the highest on him has him in the third.

I've watched him in real time, not studied him yet. Bruiser with good hands. I assume it hasn't helped that he didn't run. He doesn't look fast.

I am warming up some to Nick Singleton. Broken foot so that should help him fall. Some say 4.3 speed. Breakaway runner, good size, good hands, good pass protector. Not the most creative runner, sort of like Mike Washington, relies on his physical gifts, but in the 5th round range I'd be in.

It is apparent there should be a number of RB's falling into the 3rd and later rounds, not a shocker. I do think Coleman now could reach 71. I see him as being better all around than the others even though some are bigger, faster, stronger, have more wiggle...... I was under the impression that he had run a 4.5 which isn't great but not bad either

 

[philibusters]

It is apparent there should be a number of RB's falling into the 3rd and later rounds, not a shocker. I do think Coleman now could reach 71. I see him as being better all around than the others even though some are bigger, faster, stronger, have more wiggle...... I was under the impression that he had run a 4.5 which isn't great but not bad either

Thoughts on Lance, Singleton, and Coleman.

1. Byrce Lance: I think Lance would be a terrible pick for this team. Its not that I think he is a terrible pick in the abstract, its the last two drafts we have made similar picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds with Luke McCaffrey and Jaylin Lane. Raw WR prospects with some upside but who are going to take some time to develop and won't be big contributors year 1. There is a portion (probably small) of the fanbase that wants to cut them. Lance is going to take some patience. His breakout would probably be year 3 or 4. That doesn't mean you could not use him as a vertical field stretcher here and there in years 1 and 2, just don't expect a lot of production. Hurst is raw too, but not as raw. Hurst has a bigger more developed route tree and more release packages (though Hurst may have to unlearn some of his release packages--the inferior compettion is afraid to throw hands in press and that lets him get away with longer release packages with unnecessary steps according to the daftondraft guys that he may have to unlearn at the NFL level)

2. Nick Singleton: I think his vision is so bad that he is effectively projecting as a third down back. SkinsParadise compared him to Mike Washington as a non-creative runner---I think its worse than that, I think he misreads any picture that is a bit cloudy a lot--way too high of a percentage I do think the 4.3 part is correct and he has good size (219 pounds), but his lack of vision just makes it impossible to use him as an everydown back. Could he develop into a decent third down back with his receiving skills--he catches it well and is the homerun hitter after the catch--he has the size to be a good pass blocker, and if you do a draw in an obvious pass situation you likely going to get a pretty big hole so he doesn't have to deal with a cloudy picture....I think he could. But we have Rashaad White, at least for one year, so that alleviates the short term need for a third down back.

3. Jonah Coleman: I am fan of his. He is a slightly better version of Chris Rodriguez. Good vision and power. I actually think after Rodriguez lost weight he may have had better speed than Coleman who I would guess is in the 4.55 to 4.6 range, but I think Coleman is the better prospect because he had better short area quickness and accelreation than Rodriguez. I think Coleman is a potential three down back as he is a good power runner and catches the ball well---though for a 220 pound back his pass pro was disappointment, doesn't always keep his head up going into contact so doesn't always make as solid of contact as he should. and weak hands as a chipper.

 

[DWinzit]

Thoughts on Lance, Singleton, and Coleman.

1. Byrce Lance: I think Lance would be a terrible pick for this team. Its not that I think he is a terrible pick in the abstract, its the last two drafts we have made similar picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds with Luke McCaffrey and Jaylin Lane. Raw WR prospects with some upside but who are going to take some time to develop and won't be big contributors year 1. There is a portion (probably small) of the fanbase that wants to cut them. Lance is going to take some patience. His breakout would probably be year 3 or 4. That doesn't mean you could not use him as a vertical field stretcher here and there in years 1 and 2, just don't expect a lot of production. Hurst is raw too, but not as raw. Hurst has a bigger more developed route tree and more release packages (though Hurst may have to unlearn some of his release packages--the inferior compettion is afraid to throw hands in press and that lets him get away with longer release packages with unnecessary steps according to the daftondraft guys that he may have to unlearn at the NFL level)

2. Nick Singleton: I think his vision is so bad that he is effectively projecting as a third down back. SkinsParadise compared him to Mike Washington as a non-creative runner---I think its worse than that, I think he misreads any picture that is a bit cloudy a lot--way too high of a percentage I do think the 4.3 part is correct and he has good size (219 pounds), but his lack of vision just makes it impossible to use him as an everydown back. Could he develop into a decent third down back with his receiving skills--he catches it well and is the homerun hitter after the catch--he has the size to be a good pass blocker, and if you do a draw in an obvious pass situation you likely going to get a pretty big hole so he doesn't have to deal with a cloudy picture....I think he could. But we have Rashaad White, at least for one year, so that alleviates the short term need for a third down back.

3. Jonah Coleman: I am fan of his. He is a slightly better version of Chris Rodriguez. Good vision and power. I actually think after Rodriguez lost weight he may have had better speed than Coleman who I would guess is in the 4.55 to 4.6 range, but I think Coleman is the better prospect because he had better short area quickness and accelreation than Rodriguez. I think Coleman is a potential three down back as he is a good power runner and catches the ball well---though for a 220 pound back his pass pro was disappointment, doesn't always keep his head up going into contact so doesn't always make as solid of contact as he should. and weak hands as a chipper.

Good evals on all three. Regarding Coleman, I see him being fairly good in short yardage situations with 34 rushing TDs due to power with low pad level, bowling ball lol. He not only has good hands receiving but has great ball security with only 1 fumble through his college career. His pass pro needs some work but isn't horrible. Seems like poor technique over willingness to stick his nose into it. I do see him as a 3 down back which elevates him over may of the other RB's in this draft.

All that said, if they don't get Love, all of the Love lovers will not be happy with any RBs. I still question their interest after Love and perhaps just a late rounder again. Like SIP, I do like Ott in the 6th/7tth but expectations would be low on him in 2026

 

[KDawg]

The only RB I am currently interested in later in the draft is Emmett Johnson. I posted about him months ago.

Mike Washington is interesting but I just don’t see a world where we’re in position to take him, even if he’s on the board, there are going to be better players available.

I’ve been looking at what I can find on Lance, which isn’t much. But meh. I’m not sure he fits here. He’s more of the same. He might be better than Lane/McCaffrey, but same flavor. We don’t need that. We need a possession guy or an underneath threat.

Day 2 I am sticking to my guns… Elijah Sarratt, Josiah Trotter, Haulcy, Clark, Scott (I don’t think he’s there at 71), Igbinosun, Kilgore, Chris Bell (don’t think he’s there), Slaughter

 

[skinsinparadise]

I just took a look at the scouts take on the RBs from McGinn, that's the better indication typically than the media

1. Love
2. Price
3. K. Allen
4. M. Washington
5. Singleton
6. Coleman
7. E. Johnson

As far as Emmitt Johnson, I like him but I don't get what he brings that is unique to this RB crew -- a bit more wiggle than Ford, and R. White but slower. Not known for pass protect either. Don't get me wrong, I like what I watched -- but don't see some game breaking star that brings much different to this RB room.

As for Singleton lack of vision, I get it, its a bit dramatic so it makes its sound worse than it is, but I've heard it with drama from some draftniks so I get the pushback. And some really dig him. So he's polarizing. I just read the scouts review of the backs and based on that I am not likely getting him in the range I'd like which is 5th round range. Absolutely I am talking about him as a third down back versus a bell cow #1 back -- he has the pass protect chops and pass catching ability to do it. And he's a good kick returner, too.

To me Singleton's lack of vision -- said more simply he's just I am running fast and hard with little creativity. In that Brian Robinson mode. In that IMO Mike Washington mode. But if you have good hands, can pass protect and be explosive, I'd take it in the mid rounds. Singleton and Washington obviously faster IMO than Robinson and IMO tougher than him, too on the field.

Just watched a little Jonah Coleman. Reminds me a little of Monangai who I liked in that draft, mixed with T. Brooks. Good hands. He's a bit different from this RB room so I'd get the thought. I got to watch him more though, just started digesting him.

On a sidebar, just rewatched Penn State to look at the backs, and Sonny Styles to me is special, he's range going forward, sideways or backwards, it jumps out even when you aren't watching to watch him

 

[skinsinparadise]

It is apparent there should be a number of RB's falling into the 3rd and later rounds, not a shocker. I do think Coleman now could reach 71. I see him as being better all around than the others even though some are bigger, faster, stronger, have more wiggle...... I was under the impression that he had run a 4.5 which isn't great but not bad either

He didn't run. He doesn't look like a 4.5 runner to me. 4.6 range IMO.

 

[skinsinparadise]

Thoughts on Lance, Singleton, and Coleman.

1. Byrce Lance: I think Lance would be a terrible pick for this team. Its not that I think he is a terrible pick in the abstract, its the last two drafts we have made similar picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds with Luke McCaffrey and Jaylin Lane. Raw WR prospects with some upside but who are going to take some time to develop and won't be big contributors year 1. There is a portion (probably small) of the fanbase that wants to cut them. Lance is going to take some patience. His breakout would probably be year 3 or 4. That doesn't mean you could not use him as a vertical field stretcher here and there in years 1 and 2, just don't expect a lot of production. Hurst is raw too, but not as raw. Hurst has a bigger more developed route tree and more release packages (though Hurst may have to unlearn some of his release packages--the inferior compettion is afraid to throw hands in press and that lets him get away with longer release packages with unnecessary steps according to the daftondraft guys that he may have to unlearn at the NFL level)

Lance could hit. Hurst, too. Wildcards. I got no idea but am more cynical on Lance than Hurst for reasons I explained.

I am sticking with higher floor WR in that range: Bernard (if he drops), A. Williams, and Sarratt.

If I am betting more on triats in that range De'Zhaun Stribiling, who has run more of a route tree than some of the more raw prospects and played stiffer competition, can play inside and outside.

I am an odd duck on Malacahi Fields, I think he has a medium floor and low ceiling. To me he's a taller Noah Brown. So if they are just grabbing someone for what Quinn has called WR by "committee", I can see Fields fitting that.