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Through Week 17
It's extremely annoying how there are somehow 6 teams ahead of us still.
If we get a high pick while sucking, fine, I guess, but to suck AND pick 7th would be terrible.
Kind of crazy, we have one game since October 5 but still only in the 7 slot. There are some crappy teams out there43 days later and it’s still the same. 🤯
Today we are all Giants fans!
My uneducated mind... These numbers i'm going off of are according to Tankathon who has us picking 7th while NFL.com (see below) has us picking 6th, stating we have the same SOS as Cleveland so who knows what's real?
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(2) - New York Giants (3-13) - .529 SOS - vs Dallas - Dallas has nothing to play for other than Jerry Jones not wanting to see his team lose to the lowly Giants on Hard Knocks.... If the Giants beat the Cowboys, their SOS would go down 'double' because they play Dallas twice. Not exactly sure it would drop it enough to 'catch' our SOS, and our SOS would be unchanged because we play both of these teams twice.
(3) - New York Jets (3-13) - .549 SOS - @ Buffalo - Buffalo has locked up a Wild Card, but their seeding could range from 5 to 7 depending on how things shake out. If they beat Buffalo, their SOS would also go down 'double' as they are also a division opponent... less likely it drops them enough to 'catch' us either.
(4) - Tennessee Titans (3-13) - .573 SOS - @ Jacksonville - Jacksonville has locked up a playoff spot, but a win today locks the division. They can get as high as the 1 seed with help, so they have everything to play for.
(5) - Arizona Cardinals (3-13) - .576 SOS - @ LA Rams - Rams have locked up no worse than 6, but could lock up 5 with a win over Arizona.
(6) - Cleveland Browns (4-12) - .489 SOS - @ Cincinnati - Neither team has anything to really play for... and Cleveland is coming off the win against Pittsburgh so who knows what team will show up. Playing away from home against Cincy with Joe Burrow back... but maybe? If they beat Cincy, it also counts as 'double' because it's a division opponent so if Tankathon is right, the only way we get the 6 spot is if we lose AND Cleveland wins, giving us the worse record. IF NFL.com is right, then we're currently ahead of them in the 6 spot, so the only way we lose it to them is if they lose and we win.... since we're both playing division opponents, the outcome will have exact same effect on SOS.
edit: Did the math for us...
our opponents are 138-132-3... according to google, ties count at .5 wins so effectively it's 139.5-132, 139.5 divided by 273 (total games) comes out to .5109, or .511 (which is what Tankathon shows, not what NFL.com shows)
All that being said, i guess the short answer is to root FOR anyone ahead of us, as well as against anyone we've played this year to drive down our SOS, which ultimately comes down to rooting for the Saints and Patriots in terms of teams that are not ahead of us in the draft order.
Seattle beat SF, so that bumped our SOS (maybe that's where the difference is between Tankathon and NFL.com?).
Bears vs Lions - Doesnt matter since we played both, just dont want a Tie
Packers vs Vikings - Same as above
Chiefs vs Raiders - Same as above
Chargers vs Broncos - Same as above
Falcons vs Saints - Go New Orleans!!
Dolphins vs Patriots - Go New England!!
So with Seattle winning that means we can't jump Cleveland right? Who can we jump assuming we lose?
I'm gonna look at cleveland's schedule and see if there's any 3rd dimension that can get us there
In regards to the tiebreaker with Cleveland, you can hope, but I actually do think its mathmatically impossible.
I am almost postiive there isn't because there is so much divisional play this week so most games involve to teams that Commanders played or two teams the Browns played so it just cancels out. Cleveland is amost definitely going to win the SOS tiebreaker.