The 2025 Free Agency Thread

A. Outside receiver who can step in if needed -- and its likely needed considering Noah's injury history

B. An edge setting DE. With all the talk of stopping the run this off season I suspect they failed to address it. Kinlaw and J. Newton are arguably below average run stoppers. Payne is just OK at it. Wise in his career has been OK to below average judging by PFF scores. Armstrong is bad at it, judging by PFF scores. Goldman later in his career has been bad at it judging by PFF scores and the preseason. And i don't get the vibe that Whitt is good at scheming it up. So I don't see how the problem is resolved but hopefully am wrong.
Bourne interest make's me feel like they have health concerns with Noah and ability concerns with Luke. May also be some concerns of Deebo being able to stay healthy.

I'd like to add that as many of us have brought up, concerns at backup C. I am confident at backups at all the other OL positions which is cool!
 
Bourne interest make's me feel like they have health concerns with Noah and ability concerns with Luke. May also be some concerns of Deebo being able to stay healthy.

I'd like to add that as many of us have brought up, concerns at backup C. I am confident at backups at all the other OL positions which is cool!

Allegretti supposedly can play center so am not as concerned about that spot but do have concerns.

I don't think there is a legit backup outside Wr on the roster. Lane and McCaffrey are both more natural slots.
 
Agree. Brooks was a UDFA that came in with some hopes he could be a steal for us at WR and contribute as depth in 2025 but now it’s clear he’s a developmental player who’s pretty far away from taking any regular snaps in a pro offense.

I am surprised we didn’t jump faster to snag a veteran at WR.
 
Allegretti supposedly can play center so am not as concerned about that spot but do have concerns.

I don't think there is a legit backup outside Wr on the roster. Lane and McCaffrey are both more natural slots.
Hopefully Allegretti is okay there. I hope they get a decent young C and QB on the PS.

I'm a fan of adding Bourne but I have a hard time seeing him signing with Washington.

Besides Noah, another player that big health concerns come from is Magee. We need to see him healthy and active

I agree with you on the DE concern. We need the line to be stout and be able to create pressure. We can only hope that all of this years upgrades/changes will prove positive.
 
B. An edge setting DE. With all the talk of stopping the run this off season I suspect they failed to address it. Kinlaw and J. Newton are arguably below average run stoppers. Payne is just OK at it. Wise in his career has been OK to below average judging by PFF scores. Armstrong is bad at it, judging by PFF scores. Goldman later in his career has been bad at it judging by PFF scores and the preseason. And i don't get the vibe that Whitt is good at scheming it up. So I don't see how the problem is resolved but hopefully am wrong.

Well you guys have finally started to overwhelm me with all these inconvenient facts. I have admittedly been taking it somewhat on faith that AP and the coaching staff addressed the run defense problem with their offseason adds and changes to the scheme. I am now anxious enough to require some calming meds (I have a friend named Jack who can help with that) going into the first couple of games.
 
I’d be in favor. I wonder if something is wrong with him. He is usually signed by this point. It’s not his normal pattern.

Also, I feel like the team feels better about the DL than a lot of us do.

I’m sure he wants well above vet min, so if teams wait until after week 1 then his one year contract won’t be guaranteed. Could be that
 
Well you guys have finally started to overwhelm me with all these inconvenient facts. I have admittedly been taking it somewhat on faith that AP and the coaching staff addressed the run defense problem with their offseason adds and changes to the scheme. I am now anxious enough to require some calming meds (I have a friend named Jack who can help with that) going into the first couple of games.
We probably could get Emanuel Forbes back to shore up the run game.
 
I still want Clowney.

Clowney a legit often elite level run stopper. We arguably have no one like that on the roster.

I love what Peters has done to beef up the O line and secondary. On the aggregate, I think he's done a good job.

But I am skpetical they fixed their run defense. I think it potentially could be as bad as last year. The one thing that gives me hope of some improvement are the young LBs. Magee or Kaho. So when teams run heavy sets they can go with 3 LBs instead of 3 safeties.

If there is a sneaky part of the team that I think might be OK even though some cite it as their main weakness is pass rush. I think Von Miller has something left. Jacob Martin has had a good camp. While I don't expect Kinlaw to do much against the run, I do think he can help the pass rush. Payne in sort of his contract year seems motivated again. I think pass rush while won't be great -- will be better than expected.

Newton has had a quiet camp from what I can gather. It sent alarm bells with me when Logan Paulsen (who has been to every practice) hesitated for a moment on his podcast about Newton being on the roster when he was guessing the 53. He put him on the roster but that hesitation was a wow moment for me. I am not pessimistic about Newton. I've heard mixed thngs about his camp so I don't know what to expect.
 
I agree might be a long shot for him to sign here. Better opportunity for playing time in SF and he can hit the ground running because he knows the system.

Right now I think our two main weaknesses left.

A. Outside receiver who can step in if needed -- and its likely needed considering Noah's injury history

B. An edge setting DE. With all the talk of stopping the run this off season I suspect they failed to address it. Kinlaw and J. Newton are arguably below average run stoppers. Payne is just OK at it. Wise in his career has been OK to below average judging by PFF scores. Armstrong is bad at it, judging by PFF scores. Goldman later in his career has been bad at it judging by PFF scores and the preseason. And i don't get the vibe that Whitt is good at scheming it up. So I don't see how the problem is resolved but hopefully am wrong.


Given that Whitt (and Quinn) seem to prioritize pass rush and turnovers over run D, my sense is that they’re more interested in penetration by the dline to pick up the occasional TFL/run stuff to put teams behind the chains.

I could be way off base on that, but to your point, the acquisition of Newton and Kinlaw (and Wise, I believe) seem to support this, as does (arguably) cutting Ferrell. I kind of approve of the high risk/high reward philosophy, though when it doesn’t work it’ll looks ugly, and even if it does work, it’ll likely be frustrating when teams are having pretty consistent success against us w/ their ground games.

An interesting add on to this (IMO) is that we actually had a lot of success against Barkley for long stretches, and at times we seemed to put a heavier focus on keeping certain qbs in the pocket, so it seems there’s a willingness to situationally switch up this philosophy?
 
For another WR I wonder what the cap situation is like now in Green Bay. Might they be tempted to part company with one of their many WRs. They are deep at the position and during preseason there were rumblings of them moving on from Romeo Doubs to the point where he was being touted as a cut candidate. I wonder if they would entertain a 7th or one of our 6ths.
 
Given that Whitt (and Quinn) seem to prioritize pass rush and turnovers over run D, my sense is that they’re more interested in penetration by the dline to pick up the occasional TFL/run stuff to put teams behind the chains.

I could be way off base on that, but to your point, the acquisition of Newton and Kinlaw (and Wise, I believe) seem to support this, as does (arguably) cutting Ferrell. I kind of approve of the high risk/high reward philosophy, though when it doesn’t work it’ll looks ugly, and even if it does work, it’ll likely be frustrating when teams are having pretty consistent success against us w/ their ground games.

An interesting add on to this (IMO) is that we actually had a lot of success against Barkley for long stretches, and at times we seemed to put a heavier focus on keeping certain qbs in the pocket, so it seems there’s a willingness to situationally switch up this philosophy?

Could be. But it doesn't age well sometimes that approach in cold weather in the post season.

GB famously smoked Dallas 2 seasons ago in the post season by running the ball down their throat.

It's what the Rams and Eagles major in -- big o lines that run the ball down your throat.

I do think if they can create turnovers they can mitigate this some but alas they weren't good at it last year -- hopefully that changes this season.
 
We probably could get Emanuel Forbes back to shore up the run game.

He has a definite super power

Since he is a 2 dimensional being, if he stands correctly, the opposing QB can't see him. Huge advantage!
 
I have to admit,I am glad we didn't give up 2 first and a player for Parsons. Sometimes the best signing is the one you dont do.
 
I have to admit,I am glad we didn't give up 2 first and a player for Parsons. Sometimes the best signing is the one you dont do.

And pay a $47 million dollar per year contract. That trade would have set us waaaaaaaay back.
 
We probably could get Emanuel Forbes back to shore up the run game.

And how stout he was...

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And pay a $47 million dollar per year contract. That trade would have set us waaaaaaaay back.
I think that contract is going to kneecap the Packers from being able to keep a bunch of their players. $47m/year is as absolutely insane number for anyone not a quarterback. I get that he’s good, but GB way over paid. Splashy signing now that may end in disaster for them. Can you imagine the headache he will create with his podcast if things go south, as they might, this season?
 
I think that contract is going to kneecap the Packers from being able to keep a bunch of their players. $47m/year is as absolutely insane number for anyone not a quarterback. I get that he’s good, but GB way over paid. Splashy signing now that may end in disaster for them. Can you imagine the headache he will create with his podcast if things go south, as they might, this season?
Imagine if he gets injured? Hopefully not, but like you said lot of money on a single non QB player
 

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