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Xameil said:
It would become like rugby...so....YAY
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The rule to not allow pushing or pulling a ball carrier by the offensive team had been in play for over 70 years, and I can’t recall any disputed plays/results because of it. Players knew the rule, and knew it would be a penalty if they came in to “block” their teammate forward. Defense stopped the ball carrier’s forward progress, refs blew the whistle, play over. Now we’ve got 300+ pound guys flying in from both sides in an effort to stop, or gain, yardage. Yes, I do believe it helps player safety. This focus on just the tush push is short sighted. It would apply to any play.
 
I think there's a second factor that Luvu demonstrated even though most laughed it off. In the Eagles version of the tush push Philly simulates the snap. The QB modulates his voice and raises his hands. So, the defense basically has two choices 1) they can ignore the histrionics and always be a beat late off the snap or anticipate the snap based on the borderline illegal (simulation of a snap) and get flagged for innumerable offsides.

Luvu timed his leap to Hurts signal calling and body language. Normally, I think that playacting luring a defender offsides is part of the game, but it's also used to freeze the defense. In freezing the defense while getting the additional benefit of being able to push from their side while the defense cannot pile on it definitely creates an unfair advantage.

I didn't hate it when we trotted out Marriota to do our own version, but I really thought they should have unretired Refridgerator Perry and since its legal rented a bulldozer from a construction crew to complete the job. After all, there are no rules against automotive assistance, are there and a push is a push.
 
burgold said:
I think there's a second factor that Luvu demonstrated even though most laughed it off. In the Eagles version of the tush push Philly simulates the snap. The QB modulates his voice and raises his hands. So, the defense basically has two choices 1) they can ignore the histrionics and always be a beat late off the snap or anticipate the snap based on the borderline illegal (simulation of a snap) and get flagged for innumerable offsides.

Luvu timed his leap to Hurts signal calling and body language. Normally, I think that playacting luring a defender offsides is part of the game, but it's also used to freeze the defense. In freezing the defense while getting the additional benefit of being able to push from their side while the defense cannot pile on it definitely creates an unfair advantage.

I didn't hate it when we trotted out Marriota to do our own version, but I really thought they should have unretired Refridgerator Perry and since its legal rented a bulldozer from a construction crew to complete the job. After all, there are no rules against automotive assistance, are there and a push is a push.
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I get the reason you want a QB doing it is because:
1. they are used to having the ball in their hands
2. it keeps open the option of a pass, or even anything other than the QB sneak or any variety.

However, the other option is getting a Linebackers/TE/Defensive End, or somebody built like that (between 250-275 lbs) who is just bigger and stronger than the average QB, and drill the play with them from training camp on. The only reason they used Mariota was because they don't want to expose Daniels to that abuse. Which I applaud. Daniels is not built like Hurts.

I think there is "too big" in some cases, like getting a huge offensive tackle or defensive tackle, they are likely to a) drop the ball and b) so big they take a while getting started, and c) present a larger frame to block.

But, one of the "mid-sized" (and calling a dude who's 6-4 and 250lbs mid-sized is bananas) to do it might not be a bad idea.

I also think drafting that 460lb DT from Florida might not be the worst idea either.
- "Dude. You stand there. That's your job. Don't get moved backwards."
- "I can do that."
 
Soon we'll have a center. A longsnapper. And a tush push center.
 
Slotball said:
The rule to not allow pushing or pulling a ball carrier by the offensive team had been in play for over 70 years, and I can’t recall any disputed plays/results because of it. Players knew the rule, and knew it would be a penalty if they came in to “block” their teammate forward. Defense stopped the ball carrier’s forward progress, refs blew the whistle, play over. Now we’ve got 300+ pound guys flying in from both sides in an effort to stop, or gain, yardage. Yes, I do believe it helps player safety. This focus on just the tush push is short sighted. It would apply to any play.
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I do like the old rule. It’s supposed to be the ball carrier against the defense. I don’t want to see guys pushing the ball carrier forward after he’s essentially been stopped. Why not pull 2 guys and have them just hold up the ball carrier and push him forward on regular handoffs?
 
Voice_of_Reason said:
I get the reason you want a QB doing it is because:
1. they are used to having the ball in their hands
2. it keeps open the option of a pass, or even anything other than the QB sneak or any variety.

However, the other option is getting a Linebackers/TE/Defensive End, or somebody built like that (between 250-275 lbs) who is just bigger and stronger than the average QB, and drill the play with them from training camp on. The only reason they used Mariota was because they don't want to expose Daniels to that abuse. Which I applaud. Daniels is not built like Hurts.

I think there is "too big" in some cases, like getting a huge offensive tackle or defensive tackle, they are likely to a) drop the ball and b) so big they take a while getting started, and c) present a larger frame to block.

But, one of the "mid-sized" (and calling a dude who's 6-4 and 250lbs mid-sized is bananas) to do it might not be a bad idea.

I also think drafting that 460lb DT from Florida might not be the worst idea either.
- "Dude. You stand there. That's your job. Don't get moved backwards."
- "I can do that."
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Mike Sellers. And I would love to see this team bring a FB back into the fold
 
bowhunter said:
Mike Sellers. And I would love to see this team bring a FB back into the fold
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Sellers would have been good for this. It's true.
 
If pushing the QB from behind is okay, why can't the defense push the D lineman from behind on the opposite side of the ball. It's inconsistent - and that's one of the reasons the owners will get rid of it.
 
... or why can't defenders use each other to leap higher to block a field goal (which we know is still illegal.)
 
I think the defenders should be allowed to use electric buzzers on their hands so whenever they touch an offensive player, they get an electric shock.

:p
 
Xameil said:
Honestly, i don't like either because of what was stated above. The Defense isn't allowed to push someone, so why should the offense. Let the D push their own teammates as well.
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This, either allow it for both or neither. I’m ok either way.
 
I don't know how much knowledge this person has about the situation but thought it was intriguing and would post it.

 
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