The 2025 Draft Thread

Skattebo had 8 fumbles in college .. . 3 in 2024, 2 in 2023 and 3 in 2022 . . . Source:

OK. Weird how the stats on Skattebo are all over the place. You mentioned if I recall they have the same % based on attempts, if so Skattebo would have had to have more fumbles not the same number considered he carried the ball more and when you include the passing game its even more lopsided as far as touches -- unless I misunderstood your post?

If the scouts McGinn talked to are on the money, Sampson might be there in the late 4th for our pick then. Somehow that's hard for me to believe but there are a lot of fish in the sea at that spot so who knows maybe some of these guys drop.

There are a bunch I prefer over Sampson. But i love this class so much that I still like Sampson and some others likely to be picked even after him.
 
Am I the only one that wants Judkins over Hendrerson?
Similar to SIP, I do like Henderson over Judkins, always have.

I must admit however, am crushing on Kalen J in the 2nd.

I also do like Skattebo, I attribute some of that to SIPs influence through all the positive posts on him
 
I’ll put this here: Peters talked about using publicly available mock drafts to gauge what teams might do, citing there were a lot (a lot) of mock drafts so he looked at the “reputable” ones.

He also said sometimes “the media hasn’t caught up to the league on certain players.”

Which I found a fascinating little tidbit which I’ve been saying for years.

When Mel Kiper made the phrase “flying up draft boards” famous, he was talking about media draft boards. Because not even Vinny would be stupid enough to tell Mel he has players who were rising up his board.

I liked the way Peters put that, the media catching up to the league.

Except of course Thor, who was “more confident the league got it wrong about Malik Willis than he had been about any player since Lamar Jackson.” Where clearly the league hasn’t caught up to Thor yet.

I wonder if Peters considers Thor’s mock draft a “reputable” one….

I’m sure Ben Standig’s is, considering how many times he’s won the media mock draft competition.
 
Yes, they've met with both PKs and I'd say one of them will be wearing B&G this year.

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The more I watch OT Charles Grant, from William and Mary, the more I like him. His wrestling background is evident in this link. He is a bit of a project, but I think his upside is BIG.

Mike Renner gushes over Grant and thinks he'll be a rock solid OT.
 
The more I watch OT Charles Grant, from William and Mary, the more I like him. His wrestling background is evident in this link. He is a bit of a project, but I think his upside is BIG.






:indian-chief:The Rook

Wonder if related to Darryl Grant?

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Yes, they've met with both PKs and I'd say one of them will be wearing B&G this year.

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It's not that surprising as they are both pretty good and AP has shown he emphasis the need for a good PK. It does hurt seeing this with all the other needs knowing "he is just a kicker" :D
 
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Being that it seems that even the most successful PKs have a tendency to bounce around the league until they settle in, I wonder how that plays out in the interview process. Peters and crew are smart cookies, so I wonder how they interview out the "Yip" factor.
 
Hey KDawg , this thread sure feels funny without your comments, takes and ratings
 
Hey KDawg , this thread sure feels funny without your comments, takes and ratings
Sorry! I work 40-50 hours + 25-30 with football. Just haven’t had the time to get into it this year. Hoping once I get some things settled I’ll have more time for next offseason.
 
Sorry! I work 40-50 hours + 25-30 with football. Just haven’t had the time to get into it this year. Hoping once I get some things settled I’ll have more time for next offseason.
Bummer but I get it, life happens!
 
The downside of fewer picks especially in the later rounds is that it would be nice to have an extra six or 7 to take a flyer on a kicker. It'd be nice to have that position settled for a few years instead of having to settle (which I feel like we have done at kicker for most of a decade.)
 
It's not that surprising as they are both pretty good and AP has shown he emphasis the need for a good PK. It does hurt seeing this with all the other needs knowing "he is just a kicker" :D
It's a strange deal. We led the league in going for it on fourth down and I kind of want that to continue (as long as the success rate stays high,) but you do wonder if one reason Quinn had a perma-green light was that he just didn't totally trust his kickers.
 
Scouts via McGinn on the edges, excerpts

4. MYKEL WILLIAMS, Georgia (6-5, 267, 4.77, 1): Suffered an ankle injury in the opener, missed time and played 12 games. At the combine, he said he was “less than 60%” for the balance of the season. “He’s been beat-up,” one scout said. “He just doesn’t have the production you would expect out of his traits. I interviewed him. He got really fired up when I started asking him about teams banging on him on production. He said, ‘I can’t wait for this. I played what the coaches told me to play. I two-gapped a lot and they put me inside a lot of times. I’m an edge rusher, and I can have 10 sacks on the edge.’

5. JAMES PEARCE, Tennessee (6-5, 248, 4.48, 1): Third-year junior, one-year starter. “He’s talented — really talented,” one scout said. “Built like an NFL player. He’s got twitch, can get off the ball, got production. Some scouts are worried about the guy. I was at a game and the guy was just a complete Lone Ranger. ...By himself on the sideline, standing 20 yards from anybody on his team. Didn’t look like he cared at all. Claims he was a captain and a leader and all that stuff, but it’s just one of those things that he might just have been anointed that versus earning it. Traits-wise, he’s for sure first round.” ... You ask somebody there: ‘Hey, if you had a chance to come to the league, would you bring this guy?’ They’re, like, ‘Absolutely not.’ On his own program. The whole team’s working out and he’s in his apartment. They didn’t know where he was.”

6. MIKE GREEN, Marshall (6-3, 248, no 40, 1-2): His 17 sacks in 2024 led FBS. “He’s my No. 2 edge,” said one scout. “I wouldn’t want him as a D-end but he could be a difference-maker as a 3-4 linebacker. Hell of a player. He’s probably got the best pass-rush arsenal of all these guys. He’s a menace. Former high-school wrestler, and you see that the way he can use his hands and get off things.... “He’s got the character issue,” said a third scout. “Nothing ever came of it legally but there’s a lot of smoke. He’s got some problems.

7. JT TUIMOLOAU, Ohio State (6-4, 264, no 40, 1): “He’s tough as hell. He’s rugged. Got great technique and instinct. He’s got jolt at the point of attack. Got decent enough range. More of a power rusher but he’s got a little bend and a little slip-and-dip. He’s nonstop. Always factors, always shows up. Has the type of game that will transfer well to the NFL.

8. LANDON JACKSON, Arkansas (6-6, 266, 4.68, 2): “Tough guy, brings energy,” one scout said. “Not that athletic for an edge. Little bit upright and rigid. At the point of attack he’s too high. Doesn’t have that leverage, but he fights. If he can get his long arms on you he has a chance. Angle blocks get him just because of the body frame. As a rusher, he uses his hands really well but just isn’t explosive getting around the edges. Big, tough, smart. There’s a role for him. He’ll never be a star or a top talent, but the type guy that will make other people around him look better.” ... Uses his hands and length really well. Stiff in change of direction... Just more of an effort guy as a pass rusher. Better against the run.

9. NIC SCOURTON, Texas A&M (6-2 ½, 257, no 40, 2): “He’s combative,” one scout aid. “Can hold the point of attack. More power as a pass rusher but doesn’t have many moves. He’s got to be a 3-4 D-end. You’re hoping he develops into one. Five-technique. He might get taken in the first.” Declined to run a 40 at the combine and pro day. “More disruptive than productive,” said a second scout. “Tough and physical. Plays hard. Inconsistent breaking down on the quarterback when he gets there. On the ground a lot... . He’s a rotational guy. Fourth or fifth round.” Arms were 33, hands were 10. Won’t be 21 until August.

10. DONOVAN EZEIRUAKU, Boston College (6-2 ½, 248, no 40, 2-3): “Exceptionally good with his hands,” said one scout. “Really bendy. He’s a riser. It’s all on the come. He’s going to get bigger, he’s going to get stronger. But you see the frame, you see the technique and hand use. All positives on the character. Just where he is in the run game and he’s not the elite athlete that Pearce is but he just makes you feel a little more comfortable. Highly productive and a great kid. Sometimes that weighs in more than you think. You see that all the time.”

11. JOSAIAH STEWART, Michigan (6-1, 245, no 40, 2-3): “I hate small guys but, man, he’s fast … he’s special … he’s strong,” said one scout. “His burst and his getoff are as good as it gets. He’s going to be an undersized edge. The question is whether he’s going to be an every-down guy. For certain defenses he might not fit. He’s gonna get out-bigged and overwhelmed setting an edge. He’s a potential starter initially but he must be a total fit for a team.” Arms were just 31 7/8, hands were 9 ½. “He’s actually one of the better players,” a second scout said. “He’s a better player than (Jalon) Walker is. Just a tough little guy. Strong as hell.

12. JACK SAWYER, Ohio State (6-4, 260, no 40, 2-3): He’s so technically sound in what he does. All it takes is one bad set, one bad footwork and he will beat you because his level of consistency will be better than a lot of these tackles. Kind of that second-tier, three-down defensive end.” Shortest arms of the top 20 edges at 31 3/4. “Not great, not ideal, but they’re not all perfect,” a second scout said in reference to the arm length. “Outside as a rusher he didn’t show a lot during the season but in the playoffs he had a lot of pressure on the quarterback. Tough, rugged run defender. Separates from blocks.

Femi Oladejo, UCLA (6-3, 261, no 40)
Said one scout: “He played stack linebacker for three seasons (two at Cal) and edge for one. More of a run defender than a pass rusher relying on his power and length (33 3/8 arms). Just the lack of awareness and instincts kind of limits his production. When he gets to the NFL he’s going to have to choose between football and this faith-based group that has been banned from college campuses across the country. It is probably not ideal for him.”

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