Kirk Cousins Development Tracker

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ESPN analyst thinks Kirk Cousins could be the next Drew Brees

By Scott Allen (WaPo - Sports Bog)

Former NFL quarterback Danny Kannell has a theory about Kirk Cousins, and if the headline didn’t already give it away, you might want to sit down for what follows.

“I think Kirk Cousins could be the next Drew Brees,” Kannell said Wednesday on ESPN Radio’s “Russillo and Kannell” show. “Tell me why he can’t.”

“Ummm,” co-host Ryen Russillo replied after a long pause. “I don’t know off the top of my head, was Brees as much of a turnover machine as Cousins has been?”

Kannell proceeded to note that Brees was, in fact, as much of a turnover machine as Cousins early in his career. In his first 28 games after the San Diego Chargers selected him in the second round of the 2001 NFL draft, Brees threw 29 touchdowns and 31 interceptions, while completing 58 percent of his passes. Cousins, by comparison, has thrown 34 touchdowns and 29 interceptions, while completing 64 percent of his passes, in 25 games.

Brees blossomed in his fourth pro season, throwing 27 touchdowns against seven interceptions, and leading San Diego to the AFC West title in 2004. Since signing with New Orleans as a free agent in 2006, he’s won a Super Bowl and set several NFL records, including highest completion percentage in a season and the most number of seasons with 5,000 yards passing.

Kannell, who, like Cousins, once made a weekly radio appearance on a local station as a backup quarterback, attempted to explain why he thinks Cousins’s career could follow a similar trajectory.

“I’d go in every morning on Kool 105 in Denver with J.J. and the Coach and we would talk about games,” Kannell said of his days as the Broncos’ backup quarterback with a radio gig in 2003. “We had just played the San Diego Chargers and Drew Brees was the starter and he looked awful. And we’re in there laughing about how bad he was, like, 'Man, can you believe that guy’s a starter? How does this guy get it done? He’s got no future.’ And I was crushing him. I feel really stupid about it now, but, there’s a growth process and I think you’ve seen enough from Kirk Cousins, the ability to win games and those sort of intangibles that coaches talk about. I think he’s got ’em. Every coach that I’ve talked to, and [Michigan State Coach] Mark Dantonio was one of them, who has spent time with him, has talked about his ability to lead others and raise up the play of the guys around him. And when I look at his skill set, I see a very similar skill set to Drew Brees. Drew Brees was not the most athletic guy, he wasn’t the biggest, prototypical quarterback that you would look at, it just took a guy like [Saints Coach] Sean Payton to believe in him and say, 'All right, you’re going to be our guy. You’re going to be our franchise.’ ”

Russillo wasn’t convinced.

“If this is who [Cousins] is now, I’m more open to the idea that he can be a guy, but will he be one of the five most efficient, productive QBs for a decade like Brees was?” he asked. “That’s a leap.”

“It’s a leap for sure,” Kannell replied. “But I’m trying to look for potential. I’m willing to go out there and find something, instead of just sitting back and criticizing. I think we criticize way too many young quarterbacks across the board. … He’s winning games, he’s starting to play better. Yeah, if you put him on a team that doesn’t have talent around him, I don’t think he’s the type of quarterback that can lift everybody up at this point in his career, but could he be? Absolutely.”

Well then. If the Redskins think Cousins can become anything close to “the next Drew Brees,” one would think they’ll do whatever it takes to keep him after this season. Otherwise, they run the risk of watching the former Big Ten QB develop into a star with another team, like, you know, Drew Brees.

“I wouldn’t go crazy with him and give him a $100 million deal, but I think he’s absolutely worth investing in,” Kannell said.
 
Sorry if the above has already been posted.

I saw it on another board and though it was an interesting take on Cousins' potential.
 
No apology necessary---thanks for posting.

Kannell's not alone. I think we've talked about this around here before, but there are several successful QB's from the recent past I think it's fair to mention when talking about Kirk's potential down the road. Brees is shooting pretty damn high, but then again, if you'd said you'd compare Brees to say, Montana, at the same point in Brees' career as where Kirk is now, people would have laughed at you. A few years later Brees is a likely HOF'er.

Personally I think Kirk may cap out a level below Brees, but I have no problem envisioning a ceiling like a Rich Gannon or Phil Simms--guys on that level. Guys who, in the right situations, can get the job done for their team.
 
Personally I think Kirk may cap out a level below Brees, but I have no problem envisioning a ceiling like a Rich Gannon or Phil Simms--guys on that level. Guys who, in the right situations, can get the job done for their team.

I agree - no need for him to be a perennial top-5 QB as long as the talent around him is solid and the D is dominant.
 
I wouldn't say Kirk is 'winning me over' exactly. I guess he is in the sense that I can see him re-signing here and the team succeeding under that circumstance.

I do think he is playing better now than he was at the beginning of the season, and that's good. But to me, that seems to be more a function of the team gelling and playing better together overall rather than Kirk pulling the team along the way some of the greats do.

And that's fine. If we can win that way I'm totally cool with that. I could see Kirk becoming our Joe Flacco, which would be better than a sharp stick in the eye. :)

I agree.

keeping an open mind. but also paying attention to the details.....
 
I don't know how much age really matters if healthy but I don't consider Cousins to be a young qb. Inexperienced, yes, but not young.
 
Just pretend he's Brandon Weeden and we just drafted him :)
 
Dunno, 27 is pretty damn young from my perspective :D
Know what you mean tho, inexperienced QB is the word not young QB
 
Dunno, 27 is pretty damn young from my perspective :D
Know what you mean tho, inexperienced QB is the word not young QB

Well if you consider that Peyton Manning is 39....

He hasn't been the same this year and arguably last year he was in decline. So even if Cousins made it to 37 that would be our QB for a decade.... LOL
 
Or...... to put it another way...

Gives us ten years to find a proper Franchise QB
 
Joe T was about Kirk's age when he started for the Skins, three, four years later he won the SB, guess Kirk is right on track.;)
 
Gibbs and Beathard put together such good teams that the qb position could be manned by a multitude of players. That's what we need the most.
 
Joe T was about Kirk's age when he started for the Skins, three, four years later he won the SB, guess Kirk is right on track.;)

Kirk may be two or three years ahead if we can sign a few defensive thumpers this offseason:)

I know I'm in a small minority, but I believe we win a playoff game this season and several playoff games next year.
 
I don't know how much age really matters if healthy but I don't consider Cousins to be a young qb. Inexperienced, yes, but not young.

What would you consider a "young QB" ?
I figure a 27-year-old, 4th year QB, who's had no injuries, and little wear and tear from sacks/defensive punishment, can certainly be considered young in NFL Years.
I mean we're not talking about a Chris Weinke, who was drafted at the age of 29, as a QB for the Panthers.

Well if you consider that Peyton Manning is 39....

Maybe a better example is Hasselback ?
40 years old - and currently playing much better than Peyton, as well as, a lot of other QB's.
 
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I don't consider Andy Dalton or Sam Bradford to be young qbs and they are both 27.
 
I don't really understand why we're talking about Cousins age. 27 isn't 'young', but when you haven't played much, it's not 'old' either. If he can play, he's easily got 8 years of starting time left before skills start to significantly drop off. It's a non-issue.
 
I was merely taking issue with a posted article that referred to him as a young qb. To me he is simply a qb, not a young qb. Nothing more.
 
I was merely taking issue with a posted article that referred to him as a young qb. To me he is simply a qb, not a young qb. Nothing more.

No argument here. 'Young QBs' are incredibly overrated if you ask me :)
 
Dunno, 27 is pretty damn young from my perspective :D
Know what you mean tho, inexperienced QB is the word not young QB

Kirk's age is not a deal-breaker by any stretch of the imagination, but to put it in perspective, Drew Brees, who Kirk is apparently like, was a two-time pro-bowler, an all-pro, League MVP runner-up, and led the league in passing yards for the number one passing offense in the league en route to a division title and a NFC Championship game appearance at the same age. I do think such things are relevant when attempting to draw equivalencies between players and such.

Age is not the be-all and end-all when trying to gauge a player's development, but it's not irrelevant either.
 

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