2014 Coaching Search Rumors

I don't know if he's a legit candidate, but he's making the best secondary in the nation look silly right now.

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eh. nevermind.
 
Elephant said:
Yeah, it looked like he got the best out of everyone this weekend in Cincinnati?
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Should we rule out every coach that has ever lost a game? I like Gruden. I don't know as much about him as some, but I like what I see and think he could be a great coach for the Skins.
 
Boone said:
This is why it's pointless to even discuss any of this right now. Seriously Brian, you're going to hate on the guy based on one game? You're really going to do that?
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John, if you've been following my stance on this over the past few weeks, I was in the Gruden corner until I did some research. Their offense is not all that good. He has done nothing spectacular in Cincinnati to make we want him as our HC.

My point of view is not based on one game, but the retort you quoted was specific to the statement McD5 made about him motivating everybody. In three season as OC there they've sucked in the playoffs. Terrible! There is something to that that goes beyond talent on the field.
 
GSF said:
Should we rule out every coach that has ever lost a game? I like Gruden. I don't know as much about him as some, but I like what I see and think he could be a great coach for the Skins.
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Like I told Boone, my overall view of Jay Gruden has gone from big support to meh over the past few weeks. The icing on the cake was the 3rd completely lack luster offensive performance in the playoffs in a row.
 
Nevermind, Malzahn has Kyle Shahanitis. Get pass happy with a lead in the 4th quarter.

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Elephant said:
John, if you've been following my stance on this over the past few weeks, I was in the Gruden corner until I did some research. Their offense is not all that good. He has done nothing spectacular in Cincinnati to make we want him as our HC.

My point of view is not based on one game, but the retort you quoted was specific to the statement McD5 made about him motivating everybody. In three season as OC there they've sucked in the playoffs. Terrible! There is something to that that goes beyond talent on the field.
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So did Peyton Manning just have poor coaching his first ten years in the league?

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Lanky Livingston said:
So did Peyton Manning just have poor coaching his first ten years in the league?

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So you agree, Andy Dalton has poor coaching! Great to know.
 
Elephant said:
John, if you've been following my stance on this over the past few weeks, I was in the Gruden corner until I did some research. Their offense is not all that good. He has done nothing spectacular in Cincinnati to make we want him as our HC.

My point of view is not based on one game, but the retort you quoted was specific to the statement McD5 made about him motivating everybody. In three season as OC there they've sucked in the playoffs. Terrible! There is something to that that goes beyond talent on the field.
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Yeah - it's called the Head Coach Brian. Which, btw, isn't the role he currently owns. The vast majority of stats just don't back up what you're saying brother. Since 2011, the scoring offense led by Gruden has gone from 18th to 12th to 6th ranked in the league. The yards gained ranking has gone from 20th to 22nd to 10th. Andy Dalton's QBR has gone from 80.4 to 87.4 to 88.8 in those 3 seasons.That's no accident. Everyone knows that you can save 15% on car insurance by switching to Geico, and that the Bengals suck in the playoffs, but you're really going to hang that on Gruden alone?
 
Boone said:
Yeah - it's called the Head Coach Brian. Which, btw, isn't the role he currently owns. The vast majority of stats just don't back up what you're saying brother. Since 2011, the scoring offense led by Gruden has gone from 18th to 12th to 6th ranked in the league. The yards gained ranking has gone from 20th to 22nd to 10th. Andy Dalton's QBR has gone from 80.4 to 87.4 to 88.8 in those 3 seasons.That's no accident. Everyone knows that you can save 15% on car insurance by switching to Geico, and that the Bengals suck in the playoffs, but you're really going to hang that on Gruden alone?
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That is not earth shattering. And then you couple in the lack of progression in the playoffs, there is something to it. You can say it's on Marvin Lewis, but from what I keep hearing from the snake oil salesman is that all the success of that offense, which is nothing earth shattering, is Gruden's...but the lack of progression through the playoffs is Lewis'.

I'm not buying it. I don't like it. It smells bad.
 
Who here likes Gruden and who doesn't doesn't have a damn thing to do with his record or capabilities. If you want to ignore 3 year's worth of impressive stats, that's fine. But that's what you're doing.
 
Boone said:
Who here likes Gruden and who doesn't doesn't have a damn thing to do with his record or capabilities. If you want to ignore 3 year's worth of impressive stats, that's fine. But that's what you're doing.
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John, you've said it before. The Bengals defense is what carries that team. The offense is just a little above average over the last 3 years.

Color me not impressed.
 
Right now, I am not either in or out of the "Jay Gruden camp"-I'm trying to stay open minded and do some research to find both upsides and downsides of having him as the new HC of the Redskins. He is a hot property among potential HC candidates with several NFL teams in need and many are advocating him for various vacancies.

One I just read is an article by Adrian Mojica of FOX 17 in Nashville about why he thinks Jay G. would be a good fit for the Titans. It does have insights that could be useful in judging how well he might fit the Redskins.




UPDATE: Just a day after offering our analysis of Jay Gruden as a potential head coaching candidate (below), the Tennessee Titans have requested permission to interview the Bengals offensive coordinator according to Jim Wyatt. Why he would be a perfect fit.... NASHVILLE, Tenn.-- He can't interview with other teams yet, but Cincinnati Bengals Offensive Coordinator Jay Gruden is expected to be among the top candidates for several teams with a head coaching vacancy. Head coach Marvin Lewis has encountered his share of ups and downs with the Bengals since taking over the team in 2003. In the eight years before hiring Jay Gruden, the team posted double-digit wins twice. These are teams which had a young Carson Palmer at the helm most of those years and boasted the tandem of Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmanzadeh out wide. Since hiring Jay Gruden in 2011, the Bengals have never won fewer than nine games and have posted two double-digit win seasons in those three years. Andy Dalton has progressed each year under Gruden, posting a career-high 33 touchdowns and 4,293 yards this season. Each are totals Palmer has never amassed in a season throughout his complete 10 year career. Jay Gruden should be at the top of the list for every team which has a young quarterback who needs developing or could be in a position to draft a young quarterback. Andy Dalton is not considered a stellar talent. He is a pocket passer who has worked in front of an average running game and just one elite wideout since being drafted. Yet the Bengals have reached the playoffs in each of Gruden's three seasons calling plays. While defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer has also been a big part of their success (and will be highly sought after too), Gruden's ability to do more with less has been proven. The Buccaneers and Texans each have their coaches, leaving the Redskins, Browns, Titans and Lions as potential landing spots for Gruden. Washington is a great fit because of RGIII, the Lions because of Matt Stafford and the Browns will take too much work for any candidate to be wooed coming there. The Tennessee Titans fall somewhere in-between. The situation there is not as dire as Cleveland or Washington, but its not as appealing as Detroit. No team needs Gruden's magic more than the Titans. RGIII and Matt Stafford have proven they have the tools needed for success. The Titans have Jake Locker, who progressed this season but still seems unable to unlock his full-potential, or stay healthy (Dalton has played every game in three seasons). The Titans are also looking at the prospect of drafting a quarterback somewhere between the 10th-14th pick of this year's draft. For a team which hasn't had a quarterback pass for over 4,000 yards since they were named the Houston Oilers (1993-Warren Moon), Gruden serves as the perfect candidate to finally turn the Titans' quarterback woes around. The Titans might not be the flashiest choice for Gruden, but CEO Tommy Smith could give him an offer he can't refuse. With the firing of Mike Munchak, Smith has made it clearly aware he is his own man and the Bud Adams era is over. A new era is starting in Nashville, one which would benefit if Jay Gruden is calling the plays.
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Read More at: Jay Gruden a perfect fit for Titans, Interview Requested - WZTV FOX 17 - Top Stories
 
In talking to a friend in Detroit, he said the hot name there is now Jay Gruden. His response is couldn't get any worse.
 
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