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What's it got to take for us to see a Jon Jones- Anderson Silva matchup ?

Would that not be the most epic fight ever ?

Not sure if you guys remember the promotion about 6-8 months ago where the UFC had all the Champions get together. Someone asked Silva if he would fight at Light Heavy Weight again, the whole time Jones was standing next to him. Silva stated emphatically that he had proved himself at that weight class, he didn't have to go up again. If there were talks of a catch weight at 195, do you think Jones could drop 10 pounds?
 
if theres a catch weight fight I would rather it be GSP vs Anderson than Bones Jones. Those are the 2 proven champs I want to see go at it. Kind of like a Chuck Norris vs Bruce Lee

Yeah, that's a fight I'd like to see too, but I don't think GSP could hang. When is he going to fight again?
 
Really glad to see Cowboy Cerrone get a co-Main Event fight. Been following him since he was at WEC. Kid has heart, let's see if he's ready for prime time! I hope he knocks Diaz out! Or better yet, beats him up good setting him up for a rear-naked choke!

Edit: Nate Diaz is a ****! I hope Dana White says something to Diaz about the middle fingers he gave Cerrone in between rounds! Classless!
 
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Overeem is a strong man, seriously, who saw that coming it was almost movie like. As much as I dislike Brock, I would never want someone to retire because of ailments outside the ring. What it must be like to be physically gifted but your own body betrays you.
 
Brock just retired

Yeah, good thing. He is no where near the level of competition coming into the UFC, he never stood a chance. He is too one dimensional.

Overeem looked very solid, like a true vet. It will be great to see if he can stand up to Dos Santos' jab. I think his experience in kickboxing will help propel him to the Heavy Weight Championship by summer.


And Nate Diaz is a ****! I wish Cowboy would have at least tried to take him down once eventhough he is Gracie trained. He had him on the ground a couple times and let Diaz get up. He should have taken advantage of Diaz trying to get up when the referee was not breaking them.
 
Guys, I have no idea how the illness has affected Brock Lesnar, but it sounded like an excuse tonight. He cannot blame the beating that Velasquez gave him since he got popped rushing in within the first minute of that fight, and he got caught with one hell of a liver shot tonight. Those shots were enough to take any heavyweight out.

He is outclassed in the UFC and it shows. He never really beat anyone of significance. I like Frank Mir and he could be one of the best if he didn't have a glass jaw, but Brock got him on the ground and began to pummel him in the rematch after getting caught with the submission the first time. And Randy Couture was giving up nearly 50 pounds at the age of 43 yet was leaning on Brock for a whole round like he has so many throughout his career. Couture just couldn't handle the size for longer than 5 minutes. And he was very lucky they didn't pull Shane Carwin off of him in the first round of that fight.

I used to like Brock, but the more I learn about MMA, the more it is obvious he just never took the time to learn the art. It seems like he thought his size would be enough along with his wrestling skills.

I think Brock served a purpose, since his arrival to MMA the viewership has multiplied tremendously. He served as a good ambassador like a good entertainer should. He just never learned how to fight at this level and the competition passed him by when Zuffa started bringing in some real heavyweights.
 
I was just wondering - have any fighters ever tried this technique - pretend that you're injured or rattled during the fight, in order to bait the other fighter into charging in, so you can land a solid unexpected shot in the face in close range ?

If so, how often did it work ?
 
I was just wondering - have any fighters ever tried this technique - pretend that you're injured or rattled during the fight, in order to bait the other fighter into charging in, so you can land a solid unexpected shot in the face in close range ?

If so, how often did it work ?

Anderson Silva has done it, but subtly. I can't remember who it was he was fighting but he pulled an Ali rope-a-dope and knocked dude out when he rushed in.
 
The link didn't work Fear. But I caught the story. How much you wanna bet Silva will fight Bisping if he beats Sonnen? I bet he would retire before facing Sonnen again. Who knows? These guys are amazing fighters, but they sure act like sissies sometimes!
 
The link didn't work Fear. But I caught the story. How much you wanna bet Silva will fight Bisping if he beats Sonnen? I bet he would retire before facing Sonnen again. Who knows? These guys are amazing fighters, but they sure act like sissies sometimes!


I'd agree with that. So, how long before Silva forfeits his belt, if he keeps avoiding fights, injury or no injury ? Doesn't a doctor play a role in deeming him ok, or not ok to fight, or do they just totally buy a fighter's story if he says his pinky hurts ?
I'm beginning to question whether Silva's ribs were ever hurt for the first fight against Sonnen, according to the excuses everyone made for him doing so poorly vs Sonnen.

Here ya go, with the article.....or try the link - I think I fixed it.

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by Steven Marrocco on Jan 20, 2012 at 3:40 pm ET

In putting together a last-minute co-main event fight between Chael Sonnen (26-11-1 MMA, 5-4 UFC) and Michael Bisping (22-3 MMA, 12-3 UFC), UFC president Dana White said the winner gets a crack at middleweight champion Anderson Silva.

That may be true, according to Sonnen. But the title shot is never going to happen.

"I can guarantee you – Anderson Silva and I will never cross paths again," Sonnen said today.

Sonnen believes that statement extends to his opponent should Bisping come out ahead in the fight, which takes place next Saturday at Chicago's United Center and airs live on FOX.

"I don't if he's going to retire, or [the UFC is] going to retire him," Sonnen said. "I think the plan was if I could get past Munoz and if Michael was successful against Demian, they were going to do an interim championship between Bisping and I.

"I know Anderson's not going to fight. The folks at the UFC know he's not going to fight. I'm all for promoting and marketing and all that good stuff. I don't want to throw water on a perfectly hot flame, but Anderson Silva's not going to fight anybody."

Sonnen was originally slated to fight Mark Munoz before an elbow injury forced Munoz to withdraw from the event. In his place went Bisping, who was originally set to meet onetime middleweight title challenger Demian Maia. Maia now meets up-and-comer Chris Weidman.

As bold declarations go, Sonnen's comments aren't much of a departure from countless barbs he's tossed in Silva's direction. After defeating Brian Stann at UFC 136, he offered the champ a loser-leaves-town fight of sorts and later rescinded it when lingering injuries delayed Silva's return.

Sonnen feels those injuries – bursitis and back problems – are suspiciously convenient. But what can he do?

"I tend to believe him," Sonnen said. "If a guy says he's hurt, you've got to believe him. Only he knows, and I don't need an X-ray or anything else.

"I think it's a little fugazi that he claims that he's hurt, and then we see footage of him live sparring with Wanderlei Silva. I think it's a little fugazi that he claims he's hurt, and I've got my friend (Muhammed) 'Mo' Lawal training with Machida alongside alongside Silva. I think these things are peculiar. But if a guy says he's hurt, it's enough for me."

Not enough, though, to tone his rhetoric down when it comes to the prospect of winning a rematch with the champ after their epic first meeting at UFC 117, which ended with him submitting in the fifth round after dominating the fight up to end.

The way Sonnen sees it, the UFC can try to put the fight together all they want, and they may again. But they won't have any luck.

"I can tell you that behind the scenes, they tried to put me and Anderson together four times, and four times he said no," he said. "I called him out publicly. You call out a Brazilian publicly, you're going to be fighting that Brazilian. That's in their culture, and he sat there and covered his mouth and hid behind Charles Barkley, which is a smart move. It saved him a trip to the hospital. But Anderson Silva is not going to fight me. I don't believe he's going to fight Bisping. I don't believe he's going to fight again. That's my personal opinion.

"He even said no to (UFC executive) Lorenzo Fertitta's face. Face-to-face, not over the phone – Lorenzo brought him out, sat him down, and said, 'This is the fight we want.' And Anderson said no."
 
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I cannot take away from what Anderson Silva has done. He is great! But I have lost any support for him I once had. I wanted to see Sonnen beat him the first time. I want to see him beaten. Now, if he feels he's had his last fight, I will respect that, but he needs to give up the belt if that's the case.

With that said, Sonnen is starting to get on my nerves. He talks a lot of **** and really hasn't done much to back it up. He talks as if he beat Silva when he lost the fight he had been dominating.

I wish they would fight, get it over with. Silva could shut Sonnen up by beating him. I was kinda rooting for Munoz so we could be done with Sonnen's big mouth, but I still kinda want to see Sonnen beat Silva.

I feel like a schizo on this topic!
 
I think a lot of people would cease to consider Sonnen as an *******, if they would just see him for what he really is - an entertainer. He promotes fights. And he's great at it. And he's great for the UFC, like him or not.
But I can see your feelings on the subject of Sonnen vs Silva - almost the way a lot of people view the presidential choices in this election. lol
 

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