The Jayden Daniels Tracker

[Dlts20]

I’m sorry, but he is the future of the franchise and having him out there in meaningless games with a line that can’t protect him and no one to throw the ball to AFTER he has suffered 3 injuries already this year? You getting value for your entertainment dollar is like #1000 on the list of concerns.

The coaches didn’t put him on IR because we aren’t mathematically eliminated and it’s their job to try and pull off a miracle run. When that is no longer possible, you protect your most important asset. To me, any other attitude is insane. Do you want him to tear his ACL in the last game of the season and be out for the bulk of 2026 too? Because bringing him back under these circumstances is begging for that

This most likely will be our line for awhile now including next season and our receiving core should have a healthy McLaurin and Deebo by the time he returns. Every team doesn't make the playoffs or has a great season every year but you don't bench healthy players because of that. Jayden is not the finished product and each start is an opportunity for him to improve, particularly with weapons around him.

If the season ends now, he goes into next year with a lot of question marks as opposed to him finishing the season with some great games with Terry and Deebo. Even without the playoffs, that's not meaningless to me. Finishing the season beating Dallas and Philly twice still puts us on the path to have a bright future next year instead of it looking bleak like it does now. I also think the ticket holders should matter.

I'm sure Jayden will want to play if healthy, especially after being criticized for the injuries, warner criticizing his play, people saying that he had a sophomore slump, some of his peers passing him, etc. I'd much rather and he would much rather shut that up and look great with McLaurin back. Then everyone will say that this still may have been a great team if not for injuries and Jayden is still the best young QB. I think that means a lot to him.

 

[Boone]

He won’t be ‘healthy’, nor do we know who else will be. What experience will he gain - how to contend with running for his life?

Shutting doubters up. Making fans happy. Showing how tough JD is. None of those things matter.

 

[skinsmarydu]

A lot of us pay a shitload for season tickets to go out there and support this team. We deserve to see the main attraction on the field if he is healthy. I’m under no illusions that we are a Super Bowl contender this year or next so I just want to see the kid play. He’s the best QB we’ve had by far in my lifetime as a fan, and he hasn’t even nearly reached his full potential. Let him get the experience he needs to get bettter. You may find he comes out of it just fine and with a better sense of how to protect himself on the field, which could be key to keeping him healthy in future years. Again I won’t be mad if they decide to sit him at some point but I’d prefer not.

I'd prefer not to tell you what the club seats at the ATL game cost me. (My neighbor Redskinskinfan ((she brings me homemade cookies!!) and Goskins10 and I had a great time, food and non-al were free, and I got to meet SkinsFTW and his wife, wonderful people!)
It was kinda my last YOLO.


Now, ya'll stop wrecking up this tennis match final in Greece!!!

 

[skinsinparadise]

The O line sans Conerly is good at this current configuration. But, if they got no WRs -- defenses can blitz and tee off at the QB, regardless. so for me Terry being back at that juncture is a key ingredient. If he isn't back -- I'd sit him. if its only 1-2 games, I'd sit him. If he's not 100% healthy i'd sit him.

But if its 4-5 games and Terry is back and he's healthy, I think it would be mega weird to sit him. And I get the idea that some have that its losing a battle to win a war -- but I can argue the same thing the other way its winning a battle to lose a war.

That is, rebuild his confidence, get some momentum, work some reps against real live defenses. He's not a 10 year veteran but a rookie and change.

 

[burgold]

I'm with SIP. I think I sit him for the season. Trotting him out doesn't really help with hsi development. If somehow we get on a winning streak then maybe it changes, but with the defense we have and with the receivers/weapons we have, there is really no good reason to put Daniels out there. The only thing he could learn is bad habits.

 

[NoCalSkins]

I think playing Jayden or not depends on how many games are actually left when he is deemed healthy enough to actual himself out there. It also depends the status of the team as well.

If there are only 2-3 games left in the season and the team is mathematically eliminated, I don't see a lot of utility at that point, but if something weird happens and the team scratches back to .500 or better by the time Jayden is cleared & ready, then you have to play him.

When I look at the team right now, the probability is that they will be out of any kind of contention by the time Jayden is healthy which will make the decision pretty easy, but because there is still literally half a season left, I don't want to say the jury is out on the topic just yet.

 

[Faithful Fan]

That's the point though... there is no way that by the time Jayden is healthy enough to play, that we are still in the playoff hunt. They literally would have to win every game between now and then.

It’s unlikely but not impossible. Suppose Mariota wins these next two and Jayden is cleared after the bye, what then? I could see sticking with the guy who is winning in that case, but if you believe Jayden is the man, then you should treat him that way and start him when he’s healthy.

 

[Faithful Fan]

He won’t be ‘healthy’, nor do we know who else will be. What experience will he gain - how to contend with running for his life?

Shutting doubters up. Making fans happy. Showing how tough JD is. None of those things matter.

Fans don’t matter? Without them there is no pro football at all.

Jayden doesn’t need experience? He has nothing left to learn? He has nothing to prove?

This whole mentality that we should just give up and lose unless everything is going well really bothers me. Fortunately the people who actually compete in these game, players and coaches, don’t seem to feel that way.

 

[skinsmarydu]

Just NO. Sit him.

Waaaaayyy toooooo much on the line, from next season and beyond.

I've got the 10 Elite jersey. I still have PTSD from 2013.

Yes, put him in bubble wrap until next season, pleeeeease.

 

[Boone]

No. Fans don’t matter when it comes to football decisions. At all.

You know what will bother you? Jayden suffering a major injury in an end of season game that means nothing.

 

[Faithful Fan]

No. Fans don’t matter when it comes to football decisions. At all.

You know what will bother you? Jayden suffering a major injury in an end of season game that means nothing.

He could get injured any time he takes the field, but is that really a good reason not to take the field? If so, where do you draw the line?

Should he play preseason? Probably not, he could get hurt in a meaningless game. Forget experience or reps, those don’t matter.

Should Jayden play games after we are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs? I suppose not, because we already want to bench him before we are even eliminated. I feel bad for anybody who wanted to watch the last 8 games of the season, but at least he won’t get hurt in them.

Should Jayden play the second half of games we are losing by a wide margin? I guess not because that was what DQ got crucified for last week. I hope he never wanted to lead any big comebacks.

I suppose Jayden shouldn’t finish games we are winning by a large margin either. Same logic, he could get hurt in a game that is already decided. I hope he never wants to set any single-game records.

This fearful losers mentality bothers me. I believe you play the games on the schedule, you play to win, and you play until the clock hits 0:00. Anybody who doesn’t feel that way should not be involved in competitive sports.

 

[Boone]

One man’s ’fearful losers mentality’ is another man’s common sense.

We aren’t talking about sitting a healthy QB for half a season. We’re talking about sitting a QB who has been hurt 3 times already, the most recent injury being his elbow coming out of its socket and flexing the wrong way.

Do we want to see him go Linda Blair before we are happy?

 

[skinsmarydu]

suppose Jayden shouldn’t finish games we are winning by a large margin either. I hope he never wants to set any single game records.

This fearful losers mentality bothers me.

Oh, I just shouldn't so I won't. Y'all know how I get.

 

[Faithful Fan]

We aren’t talking about sitting a healthy QB for half a season.

I thought this started with the question of should Jayden play when he is healthy, say in four weeks. So yes, we were talking about sitting a healthy quarterback for 25-30% of the season.

If you want to stipulate he won’t be healthy this year, then I would agree, don’t play him until he us 100%.

And for what it is worth, a lot of our fans want to tank the last 8 games, so let’s not pretend those with this quitters mentality aren’t willing to give up on the season with half the games yet to be played.

 

[Boone]

Just stop with the good fan bad fan BS. I get there are different opinions but the ‘quitter’ argument is lame.

 

[skinsmarydu]

I thought this started with the question of should Jayden play when he is healthy, say in four weeks. So yes, we were talking about sitting a healthy quarterback, maybe not for half the season (though many with this same quitters mentality do want to tank the last 8 games), but probably 25-30% of it.

It's called "looking out for the future", dude. Seriously.
It's most certainly not a "quitter's mentality". Get what you can when you can, and cash your chips in when you're down. Life lesson.
Everything will be fine if he's good next season and we get a little more of the "rebuild".
Let's focus on that, because this season is a goner, let's just put the cards on the table.

 

[Faithful Fan]

It's called "looking out for the future", dude. Seriously.
It's most certainly not a "quitter's mentality". Get what you can when you can, and cash your chips in when you're down. Life lesson.
Everything will be fine if he's good next season and we get a little more of the "rebuild".
Let's focus on that, because this season is a goner, let's just put the cards on the table.

I’m not so sure he will be good next season if we never let him get live reps. He didn’t throw a pass this preseason, probably won’t throw one next preseason either, and he has only played 5 games this year. How sure are we that so little live action won’t negatively impact his development?

 

[Faithful Fan]

Just stop with the good fan bad fan BS. I get there are different opinions but the ‘quitter’ argument is lame.

I know that my tone can be abrasive, people tell me that a lot, but what word would you use to describe somebody who wants to lose the last half of the season on purpose?

 

[Boone]

Not putting your future franchise QB back out there after 3 successive injuries in a meaningless season and ‘wanting to lose on purpose’ are no where near the same things.

 

[skinsmarydu]

I’m not so sure he will be good next season if we never let him get live reps. He didn’t throw a pass this preseason, probably won’t throw one next preseason either, and he has only played 5 games this year. How sure are we that so little live action won’t negatively impact his development?

Oh, I think he'll be trying to bulk up so this shit doesn't happen again, first of all. He's a smart kid.
And secondly, we all know he never slacks off. That's why I trust letting him heal, cheer on the team, watch film, do his virtual thang, and come back next season blowin' errybody away.
Let's be a smart squad for a change.