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I was not suggesting criticism was out of bounds. Emphasis was on the word ‘heap’.


His measurables dont scare you. Nice imo. Everyone cries about measurables when a football player is just a football player.1. Reuben Bain Miam
His measurables dont scare you. Nice imo. Everyone cries about measurables when a football player is just a football player
Even with them having nothing to play for id be surprised if we beat the eagles next week, assuming we do lose I could see a scenario where we get up to 5 but not likely any higher, something crazy would have to happen to get higher than that.
The titans could beat the saints this week and the Cardinals could beat the bengals, if that happens we'd jump to 5.
Jets have almost no chance to win either of their two remaining and even if the browns win one of their last two they'll end up with the tiebreaker with a weaker schedule.
Hope for a Cardinals and titans win this week and we'll most likely draft number 5.
Last time we drafted 5th and there was a superstar cant miss safety coming out we did pretty good for ourselves. 😁
Realistically figuring 6 or 7 which is a good spot to be in.Even with them having nothing to play for id be surprised if we beat the eagles next week, assuming we do lose I could see a scenario where we get up to 5 but not likely any higher, something crazy would have to happen to get higher than that.
The titans could beat the saints this week and the Cardinals could beat the bengals, if that happens we'd jump to 5.
Jets have almost no chance to win either of their two remaining and even if the browns win one of their last two they'll end up with the tiebreaker with a weaker schedule.
Hope for a Cardinals and titans win this week and we'll most likely draft number 5.
Last time we drafted 5th and there was a superstar cant miss safety coming out we did pretty good for ourselves. 😁
A lot of variables as the rest of the regular season plays out. You rather not but I'd rather us trade down and get more picks using our high 1st, 3rds and 5ths. AP was brought in to draft up talent and he must do this job well in 2026 and the picks from 2024 and 2025 must improve. There are good players in this draft that he must find. DQ must bring at the very least a .500 record in 2026 and if not get the ax and AP must find the next HC to replace him.As far as games this Sunday to me:
Titans-Saints -- we want the Titans to win. Although if the Saints win it pretty much locks them into pick 7. If the Titans win, they go up a spot.
Arizona-Cincy -- we want Arizona to win, we'd go up a spot in the draft. If Cincy wins it pretty much locks in that they won't pick later than 8.
The irony is there is some upside if both of those games don't go our way. If that happens it makes a win against the Eagles likely meaningless.
As far as SOS, the one team that its down to the wire with is NO, Washington with the stronger SOS but its close. Only matters if Cincy loses out or Washington beats the Eagles. But as to SOS difference, the easy way to look at is you want NFC East teams to lose and AFC East teams to win. They played the AFC East, Washington only played one team in the AFC East.
We got the tie breaker SOS over the Jets but hard for me to see them beating NE and Buffalo. The Browns have the tie breakers over us, so they likely have to win both games versus Cincy and the Steelers, not impossible but doubtful.
A lot of variables as the rest of the regular season plays out. You rather not but I'd rather us trade down and get more picks using our high 1st, 3rds and 5ths. AP was brought in to draft up talent and he must do this job well in 2026 and the picks from 2024 and 2025 must improve. There are good players in this draft that he must find. DQ must bring at the very least a .500 record in 2026 and if not get the ax and AP must find the next HC to replace him.
Understand your theory and thoughts on this but this is where the GMs earn their worth. Look a Philly. Roseman is one of the best if not the best GMs. Most of the time he is trading out of the 1st or other various rounds to accumulate more picks. Respectfully, I think you have a better chance getting more talent by acquiring more picks than setting at your draft position in the selecting your player. Just my thoughts. I am doing simulation right now at what we could have if we traded out high 1st, 3rd and 5th rounders and added them vs. using what we currently have and putting them side by side to each other. I'll get back to you with what I come up with.It's not that I'd rather not, it's simply that its not a theortical conversation to me. Depends on the offer. Depends on who is on the board. Every trade down made in the last twenty years or so felt like big wins in real time but ended up big loses including some that many forget like go get your Demarcus Lawrence Dallas, you can have our pick because the joke in on you, we will get Trent Murphy AND Spencer Long.
Is there a team in the NFL who has drafted less elite players in the last 30 years or so than this one? the last one aside from Jayden would be Trent.
So in short I'd want a first rounder for 2027 to trade down. Otherwise if they feel the player they are skipping on is elite -- I am not skipping on them so we can get a 2nd round pick to get the next Trent Murphy, Ryan Anderson or heck even some of the sort of hits like Preston Smith, Mike Sainristil.
I am of a similar mindset.It's not that I'd rather not, it's simply that its not a theortical conversation to me. Depends on the offer. Depends on who is on the board. Every trade down made in the last twenty years or so felt like big wins in real time but ended up big loses including some that many forget like go get your Demarcus Lawrence Dallas, you can have our pick because the joke in on you, we will get Trent Murphy AND Spencer Long.
Is there a team in the NFL who has drafted less elite players in the last 30 years or so than this one? the last one aside from Jayden would be Trent.
So in short I'd want a first rounder for 2027 to trade down. Otherwise if they feel the player they are skipping on is elite -- I am not skipping on them so we can get a 2nd round pick to get the next Trent Murphy, Ryan Anderson or heck even some of the sort of hits like Preston Smith, Mike Sainristil.
Respectfully, Roseman finds talent at whatever position even if the team he wants to trade with doesn't do it like when he wanted to trade with AP and AP bascially told him to pound sand. Look at what Jacksonville's new GM, James Gladstone did in just one year. He moved around got more selections and is steering his ship in the right direction. Yes, Gladstone moved up to get a player last year in his first year but he also moved down and acquired more selections in the draft and picked up more capital in this upcoming draft in 2026. This is what good GMs do. Just my thoughts.I am of a similar mindset.
If everything goes our way like two years ago and we miraculously end up with the second or 3rd pick and we got an offer too good to refuse, I'd pull the trigger, we need the draft capital but if we're sitting 5th to 7th and Caleb downs or another elite talent is sitting there id rather do that than move back 5 spots to pick up a mid second round pick and yet again pass up jj watt, demarcus Lawrence, Cooper dejean etc, we've done that way too many times, its time to get some guys that sell jerseys outside of the dmv area.
Downs to me remains very intriguing. They get gashed in open field. Downs is everywhere. All around the field. And he's a leader who works with the rest of the secondary.
PFF in the video below end up taking Bailey, who I love, too. But they spend a lot of time on Downs who they feel is a good fit for this team.
Yeah no doubt, there's more than one way to skin a cat and there will always be examples of both ways working and both ways failing.Respectfully, Roseman finds talent at whatever position even if the team he wants to trade with doesn't do it like when he wanted to trade with AP and AP bascially told him to pound sand. Look at what Jacksonville's new GM, James Gladstone did in just one year. He moved around got more selections and is steering his ship in the right direction. Yes, Gladstone moved up to get a player last year in his first year but he also moved down and acquired more selections in the draft and picked up more capital in this upcoming draft in 2026. This is what good GMs do. Just my thoughts.
I've said for years I don't do any trade down in mock simuilators because it becomes insanely unrealistic. Yeah if its the fantasy version of trade downs, sign me up. I used to joke that if it went like those simulators I can rebuild any team in one off season.skinsinparadise Attached is the difference between trading and getting these players vs. using what we currently have.
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Understand your theory and thoughts on this but this is where the GMs earn their worth. Look a Philly. Roseman is one of the best if not the best GMs. Most of the time he is trading out of the 1st or other various rounds to accumulate more picks. Respectfully, I think you have a better chance getting more talent by acquiring more picks than setting at your draft position in the selecting your player. Just my thoughts. I am doing simulation right now at what we could have if we traded out high 1st, 3rd and 5th rounders and added them vs. using what we currently have and putting them side by side to each other. I'll get back to you with what I come up with.![]()
Downs is an interesting conversation. I like him as a leader and sure tackler. But he is not huge or blindingly fast, and he is not quite the incredible natural athlete that Ed Reed was....so what is he? He is a very high floor player. I don't discount positional value of safety but I'm not sure that Downs himself has the ceiling of a player you draft in the top 7.
If the draft shook out like the start of that pff video does, I'd be ecstatic picking between Tate and Bailey. My choice would depend on how pre-draft testing shakes out.
Why is Gladstone a good GM? Because the Jags are having a good year, in his first year? How is that any different than what we did last year with Peters and Quinn?Respectfully, Roseman finds talent at whatever position even if the team he wants to trade with doesn't do it like when he wanted to trade with AP and AP bascially told him to pound sand. Look at what Jacksonville's new GM, James Gladstone did in just one year. He moved around got more selections and is steering his ship in the right direction. Yes, Gladstone moved up to get a player last year in his first year but he also moved down and acquired more selections in the draft and picked up more capital in this upcoming draft in 2026. This is what good GMs do. Just my thoughts.