Tell the Truth Monday- New Orleans Saints Edition

There is no way I give Brian Robinson a 2nd contract, especially with his injury history. As I've been saying for years he's good and not a weakness but if you really looked hard at the starting RBs across the league you will realize that he is clearly in the bottom half. To my untrained eye yesterday it sure looked like he was running into the back of his blockers a lot.

I looked up his deal and was surprised to learn that the 5th year of a 3rd round contract pays him $1.6 M. I had no idea a day 3 pick paid that well, good for him.

Yeah, I remember on the last board I got thrashed for saying Robinson was overrated by Skins fans. I’m not saying he isn’t good, he is, but we can do better. I think Kliff’s run game is the main thing holding us back. There just no creativity right now. It’s all predictable. You know when we are going to run and where.
 
We really need to find a way to run the ball and take some off of Jayden’s plate. The oline was terrible. They didn’t open any holes for Robinson to get through. Kliff’s run game leaves a lot to be desired. It’s predictable. With that said, I still think we need to look at RB in the draft next year.

Running from the shotgun when the OL is what it is, seems like a questionable repeat choice. Takes away better looking play action. Gives the defense the confidence to try getting back there for either a run or pass. Takes away a lot of options for someone in that HB role getting some steam in front of a RB they are blocking for.
 
I do question some of Jayden's decision making yesterday. He pulled the ball so often to only get a zero, one, or two yards. In those cases, I'd rather B Rob get the run.
 
I do question some of Jayden's decision making yesterday. He pulled the ball so often to only get a zero, one, or two yards. In those cases, I'd rather B Rob get the run.

Yeah, but they were teeing off on him and we don’t have a good receiver outside of Terry. I definitely did not like the run up the middle on the option where he did the flip. I cringed at that.

I did notice he completely missed a safety valve who was wide open one play. But, I can’t fault a rookie for not being perfect.
 
Yeah, I saw that, too. I think plays like that were the ones that make me think he was playing to his LSU audience and wanted to Superman it a bit.
 
I’m glad they were able to win. I’ll start off with that. But they need more than just Daniels and McLaurin on offense. I know Robinson has been good most of the year, but running was hard yesterday. But as we saw at the end of the game, if McLaurin are off or can’t do it all, then it could all fall apart. That needs to change.

The biggest sucks yesterday were the OLine and the coaching. The OLine gave very little in the run game and the coaching decisions were not good. Play calling was bad on offense and on defense, it seemed like they had no plan in place for when Rattler came in and was getting rid of the ball quicker. Maybe the score in the game contributed to that, but no adjustments to what he was doing.

The kicking situation still scares me and Quinn kicking a long FG late was a bad decision. I think he was more worried about getting criticized for punting in FG range. But that was thrown on him by Kliff who should have run on 2nd down to burn the clock. Then on 3rd down you decide how much more you need for a FG or first down and adjust your strategy that way. By throwing on 2nd and it being incomplete, you stop the clock and you make your decisions more difficult on 4th down.

And of course the refs. I’m not a conspiracy guy. I’ve always said incompetence not conspiracy. But yesterday’s game had me thinking more about conspiracy. It’s so frustrating when the game is called unevenly. Every touch and slight foul on one team is a penalty, then on the other side it must be egregious or way over the line. And the clock issues were inexcusable. I would have a hard time refuting a conspiracy after watching that game.

As far as what was good, McLaurin is amazing. Yea, he should have caught the 2nd of the 3 deep passes, but he was the best player on the field. Daniels was great as well, despite being just off on those two deep throws. He is a great to watch and has exceeded anything we have seen at QB in a long time.

I thought the defense played well. Everyone will point to the 4th quarter and say the defense collapsed. But they had New Orleans stopped before a completely bogus roughing the passer call. And on the last drive, I thought the scheme was giving up the short plays that turned into good plays. They also ran when the defense was expecting pass. And we know the TD shouldn’t have happened and now the defense gives up only 2 TDs, one of which was a great trick play and a tremendous catch by Kamara.
 
We really need to find a way to run the ball and take some off of Jayden’s plate. The oline was terrible. They didn’t open any holes for Robinson to get through. Kliff’s run game leaves a lot to be desired. It’s predictable. With that said, I still think we need to look at RB in the draft next year.
Agreed. It is clear the offense needs an infusion of upgraded talent.

While Oline is an obvious need, RB is definitely a position in need of upgrading. Fortunately it's a good RB class so I'm certain one will be added.

Isn't that a position that the metrics people see as being worthy of early selection. I figure they'll look for someplace on day 2.
 
Our O'line and blocking in general (TEs and RBs included) got their collective asses handed to them yesterday. We gave up 8 sacks with one of the best (if not the best) scrambling QBs in the league and there was precious little running room. I think we partly saw the value that Tyler Biadasz has at the centre spot, we missed him badly.

Also apart from Jayden Daniels and Terry McLaurin we dont have a difference maker on offense at the skill positions. We desperately need an upgrade at WR opposite Terry. Noah Brown is a nice #3 who has been playing as a #2 and is now on IR. McCaffrey might have promise but we never target him, everything else we have is meh. Ertz is reliable (but now has a concussion) but offers nothing after the catch nor the ability to stretch the field. Sinnott has been even more invisible in the passing game as McCaffrey.

Robinson is a decent back. But he's not special.

This season has been a step forward. We have a QB which is HUGE. But we need a lot of upgrades in this offseason to become a team that is really a contender and that can go toe to toe with the top teams.
 
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We really need to find a way to run the ball and take some off of Jayden’s plate. The oline was terrible. They didn’t open any holes for Robinson to get through. Kliff’s run game leaves a lot to be desired. It’s predictable. With that said, I still think we need to look at RB in the draft next year.
Totally agreed but can I add I also think BRob needs to stop his pitter patter stepping and just hit the (even not so open) holes with some authority… seems to be when they get their chance Chris Rodriguez and McNichols do
 
Yeah, I remember on the last board I got thrashed for saying Robinson was overrated by Skins fans. I’m not saying he isn’t good, he is, but we can do better. I think Kliff’s run game is the main thing holding us back. There just no creativity right now. It’s all predictable. You know when we are going to run and where.

I've been a fan since 1982 and I think Brian Robinson might be about the 1,000th player who's been overrated by our fan base. People thought the Denarian McCantses and Rock Cartrights of the 2000s were springing a trap on the NFL.
 
Yeah, I remember on the last board I got thrashed for saying Robinson was overrated by Skins fans. I’m not saying he isn’t good, he is, but we can do better. I think Kliff’s run game is the main thing holding us back. There just no creativity right now. It’s all predictable. You know when we are going to run and where.
I took the same abuse for posting the same opinion, been saying it about Jon Allen for years as well. Both have been overrated by ouir fanbase for a long time. Sure he's fine but fans don't really like to compare him to the other starting RBs around the league. If they really did they they would find what we have already known, Hell some teams like Detroit and several others have 2 backs who are clearly better than Brian Robinson. And I'm not just saying that after a bad game, this has been my opinion for many years.
 
Truth is. Lattimore is a freaking stud. Where are all the people that were crying about " why did we trade for an injured player"?

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HoggLife - I believe he's very good, but I wouldn't do a victory lap after a game against Haener/Rattler with that WR corps. If he plays well against the last 3 teams (with either very good WRs or a proven QB) then I think it's something you can brag about.
 
HoggLife - I believe he's very good, but I wouldn't do a victory lap after a game against Haener/Rattler with that WR corps. If he plays well against the last 3 teams (with either very good WRs or a proven QB) then I think it's something you can brag about.
So did all our corners give up zero catches then? Nope. I'll take that victory lap, thanks. For what we paid, we got a baller!!!
 
I would really like to see Luke McCaffery’s name called. He’s made no impact. Daniel’s isn’t throwing to him. If we could get him into the regular flow of the game, it would be a big help.
 
Those white circles on the right hand side of the field on that chart cause me sorrow.

Not so much a criticism of a rookie quarterback, but if even one of those is complete it's a very different game.

All quarterbacks miss some deep shots, but it feels like there have been more misses than completions in the games I've been able to watch.

One of the keys to Jayden taking the next step up (receiver talent aside). I'm eagerly anticipating it.
 
Maybe we have some good referee mojo after that bs with the clock against the saints.


Eagles have a few players who got dinged up. We are certainly not going to be overconfident after this win. We need to rid the locker room of that bug that affected Tyler and Cosmi. I think we can beat Philly
 
The oddball thought which I do not expect to happen is that the Eagles might want to lose to us just because they may want to face us in the playoffs.

Don't expect it. Don't want it. But I think it's not an impossible evil thought. After all, Roseman and Peters do enjoy working with one another ;)
 

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