Schefter: Redskins plan to release kicker Kai Forbath

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Redskins plan to release kicker Kai Forbath and sign former Saints and Bills kicker Dustin Hopkins, per source.
 
Dustin Hopkins lost the offseason kicking competition in New Orleans against... Zach Hocker.
 
What, did they call Norv Turner and ask what HE would do after his offense, or lack thereof, was the biggest cause of the team losing?
 
Man, I definitely don't want to start a kicking carousel like we had a few years ago but I just can't get too worked up about this one one way or another. Forbath is terrible on kickoffs and that has definitely cost us over the years. He's been decent on field goals although he doesn't have the strongest leg. He had a bad pre-season too so this one may have been in the teams' thoughts for a while.
 
What, did they call Norv Turner and ask what HE would do after his offense, or lack thereof, was the biggest cause of the team losing?

I wonder who the next scapegoat will be?
 
Well, with Jackson being down, Roberts gets a "no excuses" chance to show that he's a #2 guy.
He's failed miserably to this point. But hey, who knows?
 
Well, with Jackson being down, Roberts gets a "no excuses" chance to show that he's a #2 guy.
He's failed miserably to this point. But hey, who knows?

Well, if he improves we can call him 50-50.
 
A kicker is generally someone who can be hot/cold, and Forbath doesn't have the leg to endure any cold streaks. It's like he's a MLB pitcher who doesn't have a 90mph fastball, so he has to be extremely accurate and have a variety of pitches in order to succeed at that level. If he's inaccurate above 45 yards and you are going to be afraid to put him out there above 50 yards, you might as well move on. I wish we'd have figured this out last season and went with Hocker. Maybe it wouldn't have worked out, but we probably would've been one step closer to finding our new kicker.

We aren't going to win this season, so I'm fine with a carousel of kickers, as long as they have a really big leg. Who knows? Maybe Hopkins can be a solid NFL kicker.
 
It seems like we have an endless number of guys who have left the Redskins and gone on to have productive years kicking elsewhere. It sure would be nice to see that happen to us at some point.
 
I would not be upset at all if we ended up taking Roberto Aguayo in the 4th or 5th round next year. He kicks the ball out of the EZ over 90% of the time and has missed a grand total of 4 FG's in his college career of over 50 attempts....over 90% completion ratio in his career. And he's never missed an extra point.

Edited with correct stats.
 
Hope the little big man can put in the back of the endzone consistantly
 
Who knows, maybe the carousel ends with this kid. He's definitely got a strong leg. Hopefully he can be accurate enough with his field goals to stick around and become a long time solid kicker with the team.

2010 Kicking Camp 85 yard kickoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2wL9pyRYKk

55 yard game winner against Clemson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spefBglOlNA

59-yard field goals from Dustin Hopkins, Zach Hocker force Saints coaches to run - Black and Gold

Dustin Hopkins and Zach Hocker both drilled 59-yard attempts with teammates trying to get in their heads during Sunday’s practice, drawing big cheers from the crowd and forcing the coaches to run as the result of one of Payton’s in-practice competitions.

“Two kickers, flip a coin, assign one to the offense, one to the defense,” Payton said. “They both made all four of their kicks. We backed it up to the 60, 59, and I threw in that little caveat that if they both make the tiebreaker, coaches run.”

Beyond the player’s satisfaction at seeing the coaches run, the fact that both Hopkins and Hocker reached from 59 is a good sign, particularly under a little pressure.

Teammates stayed in the kickers’ ears — Saints could be heard shouting “Wide right” at Hopkins in reference to Florida State’s infamous history of big missed kicks — and the two barely flinched.

To this point in camp, Hopkins is probably a little ahead of Hocker, who has missed a few, but the Saints were impressed the leg strength both displayed on Sunday.

“It’s a good problem to have,” Payton said. “Those guys both hit the 59-yard field goal, and that’s encouraging.”
 
If dude's first KO at FedEx on Sunday sails through the end zone, the place is going to erupt.

We don't get than many chances to do so--let no opportunity go.
 
True. But if he misses his first FG, or extra point, he's liable to get booed.
 
True that.

New Dude better not only boom kickoffs, but nail anything under, say, 48 yards.

No pressure.
 
I think it's clear by the 2 kickers who were there on Monday (Hopkins & Sturgis), that McCloughan was going to replace Forbath with either of those kickers. If you take Sturgis' two seasons at Miami, he attempted 13 kicks over 50 yards (made 6). By comparison, Forbath attempted 3 over the same period (made 1). If you compare their FG% under 50 yards, Sturgis is about 5% less accurate... However, they are both over 80% over that time. Booming kickoffs & over 80% FG percentage in short-medium range kicks with about a 50% chance in kicks over 50 yards is acceptable. Hopefully, Hopkins is every bit that too.
 

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