You forgot at least Steve Young and Brian Griese. Just sayin'.
And Jay Schroeder.
You forgot at least Steve Young and Brian Griese. Just sayin'.
So you don't think his coaching mattered when he was Offensive Coordinator of the SF 49ers building up Steve Young from '92 to '94 when they won the Superbowl? Steve Young does.
Link
Let's take a look.
His history includes coaching the following starting QB's :
John Elway
Bill Musgrave
Bubby Brister
Chris Miller
Gus Frerotte
Steve Buerlein
Danny Kanell
Jarius Jackson
Jake Plummer
Jay Cutler
Donovan McNabb
Rex Grossman
John Beck
The QB's in that list who were successful - it had little or nothing to do with Shanahan's coaching.
The rest of them were either mediocre, or less than mediocre.
Thus, I see no evidence of him actually developing a QB into something much better than he already was.
Who do you say he developed into greatness ?
Gruden believes Griffin will succeed under Redskins coach Mike Shanahan because of Shanahan's track record with mobile quarterbacks.
"Some of the best tape that I've ever studied was Mike Shanahan and John Elway in Denver," Gruden said. "The back-to-back Super Bowl championship teams, they took advantage of John Elway’s mobility. A lot of people forget just how extraordinary Elway was handing the ball off to Terrell Davis, and those naked bootlegs off of those stretch plays were devastating.
"What Mike did in San Francisco with Steve Young, another mobile quarterback, those were as good of offensive tapes as I've ever seen. I think when you get Robert Griffin, one of the most explosive quarterbacks to ever play the position, in a Mike Shanahan-type system, the possibilities are very exciting, I think, with Mike Shanahan's imagination."
Fear, you apparently forgot a QB from when Shanahan was OC for the 49ers.
Steve Young.
A perspective on Shanahan and mobile QBs from John Gruden.
Link: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/tag/_/name/steve-young
Problem with that assessment or comparison, is if we're judging the QB based on the OC at the given time, is that Kyle Shanahan is the offensive coordinator in this situation, not Mike![]()
Let's take a look.
His history includes coaching the following starting QB's :
John Elway
Bill Musgrave
Bubby Brister
Chris Miller
Gus Frerotte
Steve Buerlein
Danny Kanell
Jarius Jackson
Jake Plummer
Jay Cutler
Donovan McNabb
Rex Grossman
John Beck
The QB's in that list who were successful - it had little or nothing to do with Shanahan's coaching.
The rest of them were either mediocre, or less than mediocre.
Thus, I see no evidence of him actually developing a QB into something much better than he already was.
Who do you say he developed into greatness ?
Geez Fear, if you aren't careful you will make Ryman look downright chipper.![]()
Well that and Cowboy fans Lanky, I hear it from them all the time. Had one tell me the other day he was thrilled we drafted Cousins along with Griffin as he thinks Shanahan will ruin him. I literally busted out laughing at him. Forget what he did with Young and Elway, what he did with Plummer and Griese (pro bowlers under him) was nothing short of miraculous and it's patently absurd to say he had nothing to do with development of any of those quarterbacks on that list.
Oh and as bad as McNabb was at times he was having one of the best seasons ever for a Quarterback in a Skins uniform when it comes to the long ball. They were leading the league in plays over 40yds IIRC.
Yep, and he was on pace for the best yardage total of his career when he was benched.
Yep, and he had his lowest completion percentage since 2006 and the most INT's in one year in his career.
Oh...and he wasn't winning.
We werent winning because of the switch to the 3-4!
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Yep, and he had his lowest completion percentage since 2006 and the most INT's in one year in his career.
Oh...and he wasn't winning.
Wait, so what is your point? You agree with Fear that Shanahan is not a good QBs guy?
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