RG3 Development Tracker 2015

[MikeSr619]

better than Jeff Bah-lackey!! hahahaha

he deserves a raise, for sure. but he doesn't have to do or carry the load nearly as much as the Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers type do.

 

[ntotoro]

I was hoping someone got that LOL!

Nick

 

[TomE]

Apparently Tarik listened to SirusXM NFL and put together some comments, nothing particularly spectacular.

Anyhoo, here's some stuff and more to be read at the link.

A recent quarterback ranking in a major media outlet might not think much of Robert Griffin III. But Redskins Coach Jay Gruden says he believes the fourth-year signal caller showed meaningful progress this offseason.

“The more he gets around our terminology and understands it and learns it and can see it against different coverages, the better he is going to be,” Gruden said on SiriusXM NFL Radio. “And he has shown improvement in the OTAs, which is exciting

Gruden considers Griffin's OTA progress to be 'exciting' | Comcast SportsNet Washington

 

[Boone]

Nice to read some very positive comments from the head coach about a crucial player. Maybe Gruden has figured a few things out too, that ripping your QB publicly isn't always the most productive approach.


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[Goaldeje]

Yes. This is one of the most positive signs I have seen from the offseason thus far. It gives me a glimmer of hope for Gruden.

 

[Ax]

Agreed. The way things were going last season, I was expecting Gruden to go after Robert's wife like she was LeBron's mama!

 

[TomE]

Yeah, picked up on Gruden's maturation as well, they both need to grow in their respective professions.

 

[Boone]

Lol


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[Elephant]

Nice to read some very positive comments from the head coach about a crucial player. Maybe Gruden has figured a few things out too, that ripping your QB publicly isn't always the most productive approach.


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Just one more reason to stop watching the NFL...I can only imagine RG3 playing for Mike Ditka. This pussy footing around players and their sensitive egos is a crock of ****. This game is slipping...Henry, can I join your group of disgruntled NFL fans? It's a damn shame that "positive signs" come when a coach lies to the media about a QB he does not want on his team, but is stuck with him because of a terrible decision 3 years ago to trade away our future for an injury prone prima dona.

 

[Chris]

lol

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[MikeSr619]

I never get why people get so eager to turn something positive in to a reason to talk shit. Like they just can't let there be anything good said about someone they don't like.

 

[TomE]

Sorry about the long quote (did cut it some) but Tandler comes up with another angle on Griff's potential performance.

Yep, taking fewer sacks is obvious but some quantifying of their effect aside from killing drives, getting injured etc. seemed pretty neat.

It seems that Griffin could improve a great deal if he just cut down on the number of sacks he takes.

For the purposes of looking at this, let’s set aside the question of who is to blame for how many of the 33 sacks he took in 247 dropbacks in 2014.
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Griffin was sacked on 13.4 percent of his dropbacks last year. Before you can ask the rhetorical question, yes, that’s bad. The league sack rate was 6.3 percent. Kirk Cousins, playing behind the same line as Griffin did, had a 3.8 percent sack rate.

What if Griffin had been able to get sacked at the same rate as Cousins and do everything else the same?

Let’s use net yards/pass attempt (NY/A, the formula is sacks/(pass attempts+sacks)) as the metric here. It incorporates yards lost to sacks into the more familiar yards per attempt stat. The league average for NY/A is 6.4, Griffin’s was 5.9. The league leader was Aaron Rodgers at 7.6,.....

What would Griffin’s NY/A have been if he had been sacked at the same rate as Cousins? He would have taken 10 sacks instead of 33 and his yards lost to sacks would have shrunk from 227 to 69. Griffin could have attempted 23 more passes. His completion rate on all passes last year was 68.7 percent but we’ll figure he would complete 60 percent of those additional passes since he would throw some away to avoid getting sacked. At 7.9 yards per attempt, his average on the season, that comes to an additional 110 passing yards.

Add the additional passing yards to the 158 yards that would not have been lost due to sacks and Griffin would have had 268 more net passing yards. That increases his NY/A to a stellar 8.4. Remember that Rodgers led the league at 7.6.

Is reducing Griffin’s sack percentage from 13.4 all the way to 3.8 percent too big a task? It’s hard to say but there were four quarterbacks who started 16 games who had a sack rate of 3.9 percent or better. Sure, two of them were Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. But one of them was rookie Derek Carr of the Raiders. I don’t think that aspiring to the same sack rate as Oakland’s QB, and one that Cousins achieved a year ago, is too tall an order.

Need to Know: What is the single biggest problem the Redskins and RG3 have to fix? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

 

[TomE]

Keim's observations on Griff, overall he says Griff improved second day.
In another blurb, Keim notes that the overall comfort level of coach and player is much better.

It also seemed Griffin was getting through progressions, moving off targets and finding secondary options. Saw that a few times. And the one time he was definitely sacked occurred when no one was open. Not every throw was downfield, but that's not how the game works anyway. What the Redskins need from Griffin is someone who can operate the offense, avoid negative plays and move the chains. That's what he did Friday.

Robert Griffin III sharp during Washington Redskins practice - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

 

[Win4us]

C'mon now Tom, we all know Griff is done

 

[fansince62]

more and more....I'm thinking Griffin's problems from last season stemmed in large part from the fact that he din't know the offense. we'll see if that has any merit going into season two under Gruden.

 

[TomE]

Keim ( that anti-Griffin bloke ) put up a few observations.
He has more to say at the link.

Some highlights from quarterback Robert Griffin III’s practice Sunday:
I will start by saying that Griffin has looked better than I anticipated entering camp. You would not come here and think, “This guy can’t play.” No idea where he goes from here, but that's the early impression.

Then one play later, against a blitz, Griffin took a step back and, in 2.1 seconds, unloaded a deep ball to receiver Ryan Grant. He beat Justin Rogers with a quick release. Grant had to pause just a little, but he was able to keep his momentum and had enough cushion that he easily caught the ball and would have scored. Griffin was patient enough to not panic in the face of a blitz.

Geez, this was a pretty good sequence because on the next play Jamison Crowder ran a hitch and was wide open for the completion. Not sure what happened to the defense, but it was a third-down play that should have been covered better

Robert Griffin III builds on early momentum - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

 

[Neophyte]

Let's all remember to "just stay medium" shall we?

 

[Boone]

Griffin has played pretty poorly for 2 straight seasons. It doesn't require 'bias' to note it and report on it.


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[Shi no Tenshi]

Well, then, you must not be reading his articles very well. Read Tandler for awhile, and you'll see the difference. Tandler acknowledges that the o-line has been awful for, well, forever.

But, let me tell you what's going to happen this season: The first bad game RG3 has will have the long knives out in droves. It's an inevitability. When a guy in the broadcast booth comes out last year and blames the poor offensive showing squarely on the qb (without hurting the feelings of his friends on the o-line who plainly sucked, btw), it's open season on the qb.

He needs to be flawless this season, and it's highly unlikely that he will be.

That isn't unique to Griffin, though. You are correct that it will happen, but as I recall, not too long before winning the Super Bowl the word out of the media was that Tom Brady was done and needed to retire. Peyton gets questioned repeatedly. Rodgers seems moderately immune, but pretty much every QB gets blamed for when failures happen on Offense.

Of course, there is also the fact that they will get MVP when their team does well, because that's just how they are perceived these days. Just how it works anymore.

 

[Boone]

Well, then, you must not be reading his articles very well. Read Tandler for awhile, and you'll see the difference. Tandler acknowledges that the o-line has been awful for, well, forever.

It's not generally my nature to continue to beat a dead horse, but I'm going to here. I posted two very recent articles by Keim that were very complimentary of Griffin. That pretty much undercuts your entire premise, that Keim 'has it out' for Griffin. If you're just going to ignore factual responses to 'truths' you put out there, there's really no point in discussing.

Tandler is just a 'softer' guy - that's his style. He does a ton of fan polls and fluff pieces. Don't get me wrong, he's a great guy and knowledgeable, but he's writing for web site hits because that's what he does and has always done. Keim is a Redskins beat reporter. He isn't trying to cater to anyone, he just writes it like he sees it.