Random Commanders Thoughts

Do you think this team would be in a different position with pickett? There is a reason Tomlin has never had a losing season as a HC...

I honestly question this staffs ability to do anything at the position. We've seen nothing to lead us to believe that any player coming in here would be effective outside of someone who can manage the whole offense from behind center.. and you wonder if even Brady or Rodgers would be afforded the luxury of that flexibility
Agree with ST here.
The number one job of an OC is to put his players in the best position to succeed. And clearly Scott is incapable of doing so.

How in the hell Rivera could justify giving him an extension is beyond me, considering this is now the third year in a row the offense has been ranked in the bottom half of the league.
 
Boy oh boy. Wentz got his ass chewed by Young right in front of Heinicke and still didn't do shit.

His finger was hurt the entire time....yet we continued to play him even after two picks in the first half. Heinicke didn't even warm up to come in.

This organization doesn't care. There is a sale coming and they don't want to pay out a bunch of money/lose personnel. Instead they bring out that abomination "Tuddy" just to piss us off even more.

Chief Z is rolling in his grave right now.
 
A team on the outside looking in has a full padded practice to prep for the game against 6 seed in their conference while our coach didn't even know we could be eliminated.

 
Do you think this team would be in a different position with pickett? There is a reason Tomlin has never had a losing season as a HC...

I honestly question this staffs ability to do anything at the position. We've seen nothing to lead us to believe that any player coming in here would be effective outside of someone who can manage the whole offense from behind center.. and you wonder if even Brady or Rodgers would be afforded the luxury of that flexibility

I think we'd have won a few more games - yes. Do I think Rivera and Turner know how to develop a QB? Not sure. To be fair, we like to have it both ways. We talk about how if they only used Heinicke right, he'd be a starter. But we don't give the coaching any credit for seeing something in him and bringing him off the street and almost getting him to play at a starter level.

Would Pickett be where he is right now with the Steelers? Probably not. But then again, I think this coaching staff is winding down and won't be here much longer. We absolutely blew it not selecting Pickett.

Seeing him blossom makes me really pissed off. We have a young potential stud QB in Howell. To hear Rivera talk, you'd think no team in history played a rookie QB - it would be.... insanity! I'd have been more than fine never trading for Wentz, starting Heinicke, and working Howell into the mix. That would've been the smart thing to do. All of this nonsense about 'experience' and a 'veteran presence'.... look what that got us. Not all experience is good.
 
The worst offensive performance since....week 6. Guess who went out on week 6?
 
I think we'd have won a few more games - yes. Do I think Rivera and Turner know how to develop a QB? Not sure. To be fair, we like to have it both ways. We talk about how if they only used Heinicke right, he'd be a starter. But we don't give the coaching any credit for seeing something in him and bringing him off the street and almost getting him to play at a starter level.

Would Pickett be where he is right now with the Steelers? Probably not. But then again, I think this coaching staff is winding down and won't be here much longer. We absolutely blew it not selecting Pickett.

Seeing him blossom makes me really pissed off. We have a young potential stud QB in Howell. To hear Rivera talk, you'd think no team in history played a rookie QB - it would be.... insanity! I'd have been more than fine never trading for Wentz, starting Heinicke, and working Howell into the mix. That would've been the smart thing to do. All of this nonsense about 'experience' and a 'veteran presence'.... look what that got us. Not all experience is good.


See, maybe I'm giving the roster too much credit, but I feel like this coaching staff has been lucking their way into the wins. We've seen a recipe for winning, yet we've appeared to always trend away from it in every aspect. We sit back watching the games at home and we can see glaring issues that EVERY opposing NFL coach can identify and exploit. 7 different Qbs have started games in THIS system for THIS team yet none have ever gotten better. I'm not saying the list is elite level Qbs, but none have even progressed.

Heinicke, as beloved as he is, has never matched the level of play he had in the first game he started for this team.
Wentz's best game was week 1 vs the Jaguars.
Kyle Allen came in and looked very serviceable in 4 games before he got his leg broken... played in 2 garbage time games the following season...
Dwayne Haskins had an 82 or better rating in 3 of his first 4 games in this offense... he got hurt, and failed to touch 80 again in his final 3 games he played here.

Fitzpatrick got hurt very early on
Gilbert only had 1 shot during a covid game, but he actually looked 'ok' given the circumstances
Alex Smith was barely on 1 leg and we all understand why there was no true success there.


The crop has been bad, and yes Pickett is probably better than an of those 7, in one form or another, but that is not a dynamic offense. In fact over the last 4 weeks, the Steelers have been winning the same way we were. They've scored 24 vs Car, 13 vs LV, 16 vs Bal. Timely drives by Pickett have won the last two, but we've outscored Pittsburgh over those last 3 weeks against 'better' competition outside of Baltimore (with a backup QB). This popped up on my twitter today and it jumped out at me. Our QBs have out performed Pickett as far as production and points...

 
He's doing what he's being asked to do. You don't have the same expectation for a rookie that you do for veteran QBs. And it's not always about stats - he's making critical plays when they absolutely have to be made. He's put the team on his back, as a rookie, in two straight must-win games for the Steelers, and won the games.

No one we've had at QB in recent memory could do that or has.

Pickett is just starting his career. Unless Howell turns out to be the biggest hidden gem in NFL history, I'm betting we will regret passing on Pickett for years to come.
 
I really envy fans who are so alienated and disgusted they've turned the corner and simply don't give a rat's ass anymore. Today sucks because I am still a Washington fan. Fucking team out there ruining Monday's 4 months out of every year forever.

I'm mad and disgusted and am looking for a fire to throw gasoline on.
 
He's doing what he's being asked to do. You don't have the same expectation for a rookie that you do for veteran QBs. And it's not always about stats - he's making critical plays when they absolutely have to be made. He's put the team on his back, as a rookie, in two straight must-win games for the Steelers, and won the games.

No one we've had at QB in recent memory could do that or has.

Pickett is just starting his career. Unless Howell turns out to be the biggest hidden gem in NFL history, I'm betting we will regret passing on Pickett for years to come.



I agree, I said it in the post that Pickett is probably better than those guys, and that timely drives are the difference.

The stats are just a metric, we were talking about if things would be any different with him under center this year, and I'm not seeing it. You're right, he's doing what's asked of him... do you believe that Turner would be asking similar things... resulting in wins instead of losses? Do you have enough faith that OUR offense would be suited for him? That team is a mirror image of ours by the numbers... the difference is they've won 3/4 to get themselves into contention, while we've lost 3/4 while we were in control. Their defense hasn't allowed 20 points in 6 consecutive weeks. They are doing now what we were doing during out 'streak' to get back in the game. They've rushed for over 150 yards in 3/5 games and have only throw for 250+ in 1 of those same 5. Tomlin and company understand what needs to happen. Rivera and company dont. Had we taken Pickett, we likely see the same gameplan we've seen over the last month, and year. The offense has always been bad here... the defense was the difference.
 
I agree, I said it in the post that Pickett is probably better than those guys, and that timely drives are the difference.

The stats are just a metric, we were talking about if things would be any different with him under center this year, and I'm not seeing it. You're right, he's doing what's asked of him... do you believe that Turner would be asking similar things... resulting in wins instead of losses? Do you have enough faith that OUR offense would be suited for him? That team is a mirror image of ours by the numbers... the difference is they've won 3/4 to get themselves into contention, while we've lost 3/4 while we were in control. Their defense hasn't allowed 20 points in 6 consecutive weeks. They are doing now what we were doing during out 'streak' to get back in the game. They've rushed for over 150 yards in 3/5 games and have only throw for 250+ in 1 of those same 5. Tomlin and company understand what needs to happen. Rivera and company dont. Had we taken Pickett, we likely see the same gameplan we've seen over the last month, and year. The offense has always been bad here... the defense was the difference.

We're on the same page. I do think it's a more successful season if we'd had a Kenny Pickett under center in 2020 (rookie or not). But yeah, no way this joke of a coaching staff gets out of him what Tomlin - a great HC - has. The most damning thing we saw yesterday was just a far worse continuation of the team's trend the past month. You go out and almost literally hold onto the ball for nearly the entire quarter, score a TD to end the half, and then absolutely come out in the 2nd half and embarrass yourself with a totally inept offense and a defense that suddenly can't get any pressure and let's the opponents only weapon gash you over and over again.

I don't think there is any talent that this current coaching group couldn't figure out a way to misuse and minimize. That wasn't my point. My point is, these idiots thought we could win with Taylor Heinicke and Carson Wentz under center, and as a result passed on the best QB in the 2022 draft, a kid who is probably a future star. That is an impeachable offense.
 
We won't win with anyone if they call those same plays constantly. I'm sorry, but we have Wentz bootlegging but Heinicke is asked to stand in a pocket. That's an intentional failure
 
JP said what every Redskins fan is thinking. It was nice to hear him have the balls to speak up and say all he did.
 
Maybe I’m just cranky this morning but…

Are there any other current head coaches in the league that appear to do less during the game than Rivera? Other then clap when the team occasionally scores and bitching at the officials?

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Well....he also decides to constantly go for it on 4th downs.
 
The new starting left guard next season.

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Why is he fat? He's not fat like a hog, he's just got a huge belly. Absolutely embarrassing
 

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