Random Commanders Thoughts

[SNF]

1) Don't think there is a racial divide. IMO...especially given what I heard Fri...the call screening often serves to reinforce a commentator pov (i.e., the sample set is biased). More to point, I think many of the pundits make their "money" deliberately stirring the pot. Chad Dukes struck me, for instance, as completely dishonest in his approach. "The fanbase is insulted because there is no QB competition." Completely contrived.

Absolutely. Regardless of the subject, there is a huge difference between the local sports talk radio crap and actual fan conversation in the area.

 

[Fear The Spear]

Gruden will be gone at the start of next season.

I think I know where you're going with this El! you could be right. Gruden is toast if they continue to lose. and yes, based on past performance, the QB position looks like the "big if." I'm investing some fan faith here and hoping for better - rational or not!

Why should Gruden lose his job, if he was forced into using a QB he didn't want, and he didn't obtain himself ?

 

[Primus Porcus]

Absolutely. Regardless of the subject, there is a huge difference between the local sports talk radio crap and actual fan conversation in the area.

I struggle with this big time when it comes to the Sports Junkies. I listen to them every morning, and sometimes I find myself sayin.... huh? EB is the only one who's a Skins' fan of the group, so I know the rest aren't going to keep themselves as deeply involved as others, but at times it's laughable.


Another thing to keep in mind, like Boone said, the majority of sports fans are...... less then..... yeah you know what I mean. Some of the stuff said from sports reporters is 100% valid based on the reaction of THAT group of fans. THAT sentiment is what is going to get post clicks, and attract reaction, regardless of whether they even agree with it. I often times have to listen to the local folks, and callers, and remind myself why the majority of my in-depth sports talk happens within a small circle of relationships, one of which is this boards, primarily because in large part it's a lot of negativity, lofty expectations, arm-chair GM types, and Madden-ites that think they can solve the problems of the teams they by making a single trade or hire.

 

[MikeSr619]

When asked Monday about the possibility of revisiting that policy if the name is a political barrier to a new location for the stadium, Allen quickly gave a one-word answer: “No.”

Stay strong, Brother!!

 

[fansince62]

Why should Gruden lose his job, if he was forced into using a QB he didn't want, and he didn't obtain himself ?

No one said he "should lose his job".

But to answer your question: QB he didn't want. fair enough. and Gruden may be a coach McL didn't want. I fail to see any difference in the two situations by this logic. In as much as Griffin was inherited...so was Gruden.

 

[MikeSr619]

Cooley would later confirm the four decision makers referenced were Dan Snyder, Bruce Allen, Scot McCloughan and Jay Gruden, though he would not say which of the four was not in favor of his returning to the team.

The veteran tight end then went over an offer that he and his agent worked out that was presented to the Redskins. In it, Cooley agrees that:

The team can sign him if he does well in a workout that is not public
He will sign "the most minimum deal possible. Veteran minimum, no incentives, no bonuses, no nothing."
He will not enforce any right to termination pay meaning the team could cut him before the season and not have to pay him anything.
If he is cut midseason, he would only come back to the Redskins and would not sign with any other team.
He will develop the team's young tight ends as much as need be, even offering to have them over to his house.
He will give $50,000 of his contract to charity.

Cooley specified afterwards that this deal was only on the table for the Redskins. ""I'm literally begging," he said.

At first, Cooley's comeback seemed more like a radio stunt than anything else, but with the Redskins injuries at tight end starting to mount, the team now finds itself in need of someone who can play the position.

"I'm better than what you have," he said.

While clearly he would like to play for the Redskins, he made clear that he will be returning to the NFL somewhere even if the Redskins pass on him.

I feel for the guy and would love to emotionally have him back...but this just screams desperation. It's sad...it he had something to offer he would have been back already.

 

[MikeSr619]

also, all of this BS surrounding Griffin saying "I feel like I am the best QB in the league" or whatever it was....is nonsense. He is SUPPOSED to think that way. If he didn't I would want a different person under center immediately.

 

[DieselPwr44]

also, all of this BS surrounding Griffin saying "I feel like I am the best QB in the league" or whatever it was....is nonsense. He is SUPPOSED to think that way. If he didn't I would want a different person under center immediately.

It's fine to feel that way...you just don't need to broadcast it after you've had your ass handed to you two years running.

 

[MikeSr619]

It's fine to feel that way...you just don't need to broadcast it after you've had your ass handed to you two years running.

He was asked. If he doesn't answer questions he gets fined. Every qb from flacco to sheli have said the same thing. It's a pretty standard and straightforward answer in my eyes.

 

[DieselPwr44]

Sure he needs to answer questions Mike.

How bout: "I'm working hard to improve my game because I want to be the best in this league." ?

That goes a long way to not stirring the hornets nest that is the media.

Robert should know better after being in this business for four years.

 

[Fear The Spear]

He was asked. If he doesn't answer questions he gets fined. Every qb from flacco to sheli have said the same thing. It's a pretty standard and straightforward answer in my eyes.

Sure he needs to answer questions Mike.

How bout: "I'm working hard to improve my game because I want to be the best in this league." ?

Or he could just go all out Marshawn Lynch

 

[MikeSr619]

Meh..the Hornets nest gets stirred no matter what he says. If he was humble there they'd get him for being aloof and not serious.

I have no issue with what he said. He is trying to pump himself and the team up for the season. He's doing the right things and I'm cool with it.

 

[Boone]

Griffin is articulate, but I'm starting to think he's just not very smart. That was not a smart thing to say - no matter what he meant or what the motivation, any idiot knows that is going to immediately get seized on and blown way out of proportion - and I mean ANY idiot knows that.

Except Griffin.

Just when you think the guy understands how to play the media game. He obviously doesn't. It's not a big deal ultimately. Play well and no one cares about your Joe Biden moments. But if you don't play well, every word is going to get repeated until we all want to blow our brains out.

 

[Cycleans]

I'm sick of Griffin,He hasn't learned a thing evidently about choosing his words. He should keep his mouth shut and let his playing do the talking.

 

[Elephant]

I think I know where you're going with this El! you could be right. Gruden is toast if they continue to lose. and yes, based on past performance, the QB position looks like the "big if." I'm investing some fan faith here and hoping for better - rational or not!

Why should Gruden lose his job, if he was forced into using a QB he didn't want, and he didn't obtain himself ?

Based on past discussions, fan was thinking my line of thought was that Gruden and Griffin are linked to each other's success or failure. There probably is some truth to that, but I am not sold on Gruden. He just doesn't strike me as head coach material anymore.

 

[Beans]

I just have this crazy feeling that the Butler is putting up 1700+ this year. He's gonna be running hard so this Jones kid doesn't encroach upon his touches.

 

[Beans]

The press/media content producers that take this, run with it, and don't provide the full context can get bent. Redskins nation shouldn't care less what some click bait producing jackanapes feed the trollish masses.

 

[servumtuum]

Dear God I hate preseason game injuries!

 

[fansince62]

Based on past discussions, fan was thinking my line of thought was that Gruden and Griffin are linked to each other's success or failure. There probably is some truth to that, but I am not sold on Gruden. He just doesn't strike me as head coach material anymore.

I'm with ya on that...as well as moving more over to your position on Griffin. I still want him to succeed, but the time for development has just about passed.

 

[Goaldeje]

Yes. This latest statement is just stupid and juvenille. He makes it harder than it needs to be to root for him. He can think it all he wants, but for God's sake, just keep your mouth shut and let your play on the field do the talking.