Random Commanders Thoughts

You guys remember at the height of the Shanahan debacle/implosion, I posted a 'Hopeless' Obama-style pic of him. I got my head taken off and pummeled. And probably deservedly so. As Derek said, Gruden has just begun. It's way too early to write off the team or him. This is likely going to be a long season. But I do have hope the team is going to get better and better under Gruden. We can all pull out the 'cursed' and 'snakebitten' beliefs, but this team has been to the playoffs - it's not impossible to return and to even go all the way. We just lack some of the talent needed to get there. I'm still excited to have a young head coach who is highly motivated, who knows football, and who knows how to lead people.
 
I like Jay. Like his attitude/style.

I just have no faith/ belief that Bruce and his personnel dept. will ever be able to provide him with what he needs to succeed.

This personnel dept. has never shown the ability to judge trench talent,nor do they look to have a clue as how to build a team properly= inside out.

Until that changes,no coach will succeed here.
 
I have mentally relocated to Missouri.

I want to hear no more talk. No talk of promise. No talk of hope. No talk of patience. No talk of optimism.

Just show me, mother****ers.
 
gotta line up with DP. that is the conclusion I have been edging toward.

right now...we have a roster populated with a lot of ok players....and few to no difference makers. we've had 20+ years to get this right. I'm tired of all the excuses. until I see sustained difference on the field I hold the following beliefs:

- the organization can't build a franchise worth a ***t; we have had, and continue to have, mental midgets driving this ship

- coaching sucks until I see discipline and consistent execution

- the talent deficit remains until we can play well against average to poor teams like the Giants; it's not like we lost to a team that is going to be in the hunt at the end of the year Thursday

I have been following this team since 1962. It's gotten to the point where I can tell within the first 10 mins of game whether it's going to be samo samo. if I see the patterns...I'm outta there to go play golf or do something productive.

where I come from...sustained suckatude is not the marker for excellence.
 
meanwhile

Redskins linebacker Keenan Robinson is okay after his SUV was hit by a drunk driver as he was leaving FedEx Field following Thursday’s 45-14 loss to the Giants.

Robinson wrote about the incident on Twitter immediately after the accident. On Friday, Redskins Coach Jay Gruden said Robinson’s vehicle was sideswiped but that he escaped injury.

“He was just going home after the game,” Gruden said. “There was some traffic and somebody tried to squeeze past him, I guess, and hit him. But he’s okay. No injuries.”

After the accident, Robinson tweeted, “I thank you father God for protecting me and my family and keeping us safe tonight. A drunk driver hit us and almost wiped us out.”

On Friday, he thanked his followers for their well wishes, writing, “Me and the family are doing Great. No one was harmed in the accident. Thank you guys for the concern. God is good all the time.”

Robinson, 25, is in his first season as a starter for the Redskins. He was one of the few bright spots for Washington (1-3) on Thursday night, recording 13 combined tackles and his first career interception
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Jay Gruden says Keenan Robinson is 'okay' | Comcast SportsNet Washington
 
I understand guys. But I'm also going to give some tough love.

1. Brand new coach (not new Redskins coach - a first-time NFL head coach)
2. Lots of new players
3. Loss of starting QB, top DB, top TE, and that's just to name a few of the numerous crippling injuries we've had

Gruden doesn't own our history, our karma, our supposed franchise dysfunction, or our pain and suffering. He just got here.

Everything isn't going to be magically fixed because the new guy arrives and we wiped the mental slate clean from the former regime.

Unless you all are giving up and turning in your fan card, you're just going to have to suck it up, watch things develop, and hope for the best like all the rest of us. I don't see how wallowing in misery and hopelessness helps. We need to be realistic and give Gruden and Company some time to build something better than what we have seen so far. Were it not for a devastating list of injuries already in 2014, we might already be seeing better play and results.
 
Boone said:
I understand guys. But I'm also going to give some tough love.

1. Brand new coach (not new Redskins coach - a first-time NFL head coach)
2. Lots of new players
3. Loss of starting QB, top DB, top TE, and that's just to name a few of the numerous crippling injuries we've had

Gruden doesn't own our history, our karma, our supposed franchise dysfunction, or our pain and suffering. He just got here.

Everything isn't going to be magically fixed because the new guy arrives and we wiped the mental slate clean from the former regime.

Unless you all are giving up and turning in your fan card, you're just going to have to suck it up, watch things develop, and hope for the best like all the rest of us. I don't see how wallowing in misery and hopelessness helps. We need to be realistic and give Gruden and Company some time to build something better than what we have seen so far. Were it not for a devastating list of injuries already in 2014, we might already be seeing better play and results.
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I think, for many (including me at the moment), wallowing in misery is easier when it's all that's being dished out. Believing, hoping, or being optimistic at this point almost seems masochistic.

I still have faith in Gruden & I do believe that he can do something good here. He is, as you stated, a brand new NFL coach & still learning the nuances of being such. The true test will be next year when he actually has a year under his belt & evaluates what he truly has by being there, not just what he saw on film. And it will also test his ability to evaluate talent & his power of influence to get the right guys on the roster.

As for this year, I believe we'll win games. Probably not many, but hopefully more than last year. I believe we will play erratic & will have a good game in the middle of several bad ones. That will be difficult to watch. I know that even attempting to watch the Seattle game, even if they were able to win that game, would just remind me that this win is just a fluke & we'll more than likely lose our next few games. I am hopeful. Afterall, I am a Redskins fan. I have been one since I was a twinkle in my father's eye. And I always will be. That doesn't mean I can always watch, tho.
 
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I'm going to post something positive and then fade away into the woodwork for a while. I apologize Niles Paul. You have been the butt of many a joke, been used as an unfair comparison in many cases and have done it the whole time working your ass off and with a smile on your epic-bearded face. I'm still amazed at how many casual fans I run into that have no idea who he is. Well with the departure of several key special teams guys over the past few years, I think he's stepped in and become whatever we ask him to be and you have to respect that. I know, we prop the little talent we have so high its silly sometimes, but Niles Paul... I'm a fan. That was a helluva catch and you made me proud. Feel better.

I'm in no way turning in my fan card guys but this team consumes too much of many of our lives. I'm so glad I was at a silly concert on thursday night and was able to just fast forward through the dribble on Friday morning. I got to the end and never even woke up my GF with what would normally have been yelling and screaming. Overinvested and underpaid I need a break. Hold the torch up high, I'll take my turn to run with it again in a couple of weeks.
 
I have no fan card. Never have. Where do you get 'em? Do they come with a magic decoder ring and some x-ray specs?

Come on, can anyone help a brother out?
 
Chris said:
Show. Me.
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I've echoed that sentiment many times. And I agree - it comes down to that. I'm only arguing that making any assessment about the future of the Redskins 4 games into the Gruden era - it's kind of silly.

Gulf Coast Redskin said:
I think, for many (including me at the moment), wallowing in misery is easier when it's all that's being dished out. Believing, hoping, or being optimistic at this point almost seems masochistic.

I still have faith in Gruden & I do believe that he can do something good here. He is, as you stated, a brand new NFL coach & still learning the nuances of being such. The true test will be next year when he actually has a year under his belt & evaluates what he truly has by being there, not just what he saw on film. And it will also test his ability to evaluate talent & his power of influence to get the right guys on the roster.

As for this year, I believe we'll win games. Probably not many, but hopefully more than last year. I believe we will play erratic & will have a good game in the middle of several bad ones. That will be difficult to watch. I know that even attempting to watch the Seattle game, even if they were able to win that game, would just remind me that this win is just a fluke & we'll more than likely lose our next few games. I am hopeful. Afterall, I am a Redskins fan. I have been one since I was a twinkle in my father's eye. And I always will be. That doesn't mean I can always watch, tho.
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Nicely put. I will be watching throughout what is shaping up to be a very tough first season to see how Gruden handles it - specifically the extent to which he is able to keep the players on the bus and playing hard regardless of results, and also how he handles the rabid DC press who love the smell of blood in the water.

Dead Money said:
I'm going to post something positive and then fade away into the woodwork for a while. I apologize Niles Paul. You have been the butt of many a joke, been used as an unfair comparison in many cases and have done it the whole time working your ass off and with a smile on your epic-bearded face. I'm still amazed at how many casual fans I run into that have no idea who he is. Well with the departure of several key special teams guys over the past few years, I think he's stepped in and become whatever we ask him to be and you have to respect that. I know, we prop the little talent we have so high its silly sometimes, but Niles Paul... I'm a fan. That was a helluva catch and you made me proud. Feel better.

I'm in no way turning in my fan card guys but this team consumes too much of many of our lives. I'm so glad I was at a silly concert on thursday night and was able to just fast forward through the dribble on Friday morning. I got to the end and never even woke up my GF with what would normally have been yelling and screaming. Overinvested and underpaid I need a break. Hold the torch up high, I'll take my turn to run with it again in a couple of weeks.
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Thing is, anything ultimately worth our passion probably takes up way too much of our time and energy. I totally get you on this. But one of these days, we'll move from the 'catch lightning in a bottle' kind of success we've enjoyed occasionally under Gibbs and Shanahan, to a more sustained consistent winning tradition. We're not doomed. We're not cursed. And when it comes for those countless of us who have weathered the pain, it will be the sweetest thing we have ever experienced in fandom.
 
The ultimate fallacy?

Redskins fans still living on the hope that the current front office and ownership can re-create the 1980s run.

I firmly believe that we will never see that kind of run here again.
 
It's called being a fan DP. There are fans all over the NFL, some of whom who have NEVER seen their team go all the way, who dream of it. I think Snyder and company have made a ton of mistakes over the years. But I refuse to embrace the idea that we can not get back to glory. If that makes me a fool or dumbass in some eyes, I'm perfectly fine with that.
 
The Redskins have waived LB Gabe Miller and NT Robert Thomas.
 
Thomas was signed to the PS. Who is replacing Miller on the active roster?
 
Pretty sure BOTH of them were on the active roster.
 
Boone said:
Pretty sure BOTH of them were on the active roster.
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Ah, correct.....while Thomas is still with the team that leaves two spots on the 53. Any idea what's going on there? Hoping for secondary help.
 
ntotoro said:
Chris Cooley swears Polumbus isn't as bad as we make him out to be.

I'm starting to question Cooley's knowledge of football.

Nick
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Cooley is backing off Polumbus now, expects Compton sometime soon if the TE situation gets straight, Moses is not ready yet in his opinion.
 
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