Official Game Thread - Week 17 - 49ers @ Commanders

I agree with almost all of that Bulldog. Interesting though that you bring up Manning. They DID throw Manning to the wolves in his rookie season. It was 1998 so teams obviously weren't throwing at the rates they do today, but Manning's rookie season had the 2nd highest passing attempts of his first 13 seasons - in fact it was the highest attempts for any QB in the NFL that 1st season. His overall stats were much worse than Sam Howell's btw. A 56.7% completion rate, 26 TDs to 28 INTs, 4.9% INT rate. Manning did that all while getting sacked just 22 times.

The next 2 seasons Peyton Manning was a Pro-Bowler.

That's the advantage of being a top overall pick vs. a 5th rounder. GMs and HCs have to exercise some patience because of the capital allocated.

The pressure to win and succeed now is much greater today than maybe it was back then. It's unfortunate as Howell probably showed enough to get another season. Instead we're likely to gamble on a QB with our 1st pick, who we'll THEN show patience with.
 
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Ron Rivera to Sam Howell:

"Sam we have complete confidence in you coming in against San Francisco. Even though we were going to start Jacoby, in the back of our minds we knew you were a guy we could bring in and have success with". :eek:
 
Because the thing you really want against a top defense with an amazing pass rush is a one-legged QB.
 
Brissett isn't going to play unless there has been a last second development. He must have really pulled that hammy.

If it was just a tweak, one would think he could play.

But he has a couple of good halves worth of video to put out there for clubs in 2024 and perhaps he doesn't want nullify that with a bad performance against a top 3 defense?

This isn't the Jets playing out the string.

After we have gotten this far in the 2023 season it is a bit amusing to see Rivera talk about a 4-11 team doing all it can to win.
 
Bulldog said:
Ron Rivera to Sam Howell:

"Sam we have complete confidence in you coming in against San Francisco. Even though we were going to start Jacoby, in the back of our minds we knew you were a guy we could bring in and have success with". :eek:
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We were testing you. Its part of your growth and development moreso than anything else. It really is.
 
Bulldog said:
Brissett isn't going to play unless there has been a last second development. He must have really pulled that hammy.

If it was just a tweak, one would think he could play.

But he has a couple of good halves worth of video to put out there for clubs in 2024 and perhaps he doesn't want nullify that with a bad performance against a top 3 defense?

This isn't the Jets playing out the string.

After we have gotten this far in the 2023 season it is a bit amusing to see Rivera talk about a 4-11 team doing all it can to win.
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I mean, what incentive do you have to go out there against the 49ers defense? You just put up some amazing tape 2 games in a row. It can only get worse. A lot lot worse.
 
Hence my question about the odds of Jake Fromm coming off the bench to lead us to an improbable victory? ;)
 
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I mean, what incentive do you have to go out there against the 49ers defense? You just put up some amazing tape 2 games in a row. It can only get worse. A lot lot worse.
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It’s not personal, Ron. It’s business.
 
If you're Sam Howell and you get the nod today, it's a pretty huge opportunity, one you figure you wouldn't get in 2023, to erase a lot of bad taste in your mouth. If (and yeah, I know it's a big if) Howell was able to play well this week and possibly in the finale it could completely change the perspective heading into the offseason.
 
Boone said:
If you're Sam Howell and you get the nod today, it's a pretty huge opportunity, one you figure you wouldn't get in 2023, to erase a lot of bad taste in your mouth. If (and yeah, I know it's a big if) Howell was able to play well this week and possibly in the finale it could completely change the perspective heading into the offseason.
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The way this organization has been snakebit, chances are Sam Howell is traded in the offseason by a new regime and he ends up going to another team and becomes a pro bowl quarterback down the line.

It's just the kind of thing that we see happen here. It's almost like a movie.
 
Sam Howell Starting (official)

 
does this mean we actually get to see Kyu Blu Kelly?

 
When is Cole Turner not inactive.....................or ineffective? :flush:
 
I’m pretty sure I know what an organizational tank looks like, not that it’s at all necessary though.

 
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