Official Game Thread. Browns @ Redskins 2016

[JohnssBass]

So to lose to Cleveland at home...do they dock draft picks for that?

No, they make you take a QB within the first 5 picks who in turn becomes an abject failure while another QB available becomes a successful starter. Rinse and repeat.

Yep, shoulda smoked these guys today. Win is a win tho, ugly Betty style still counts.

No column for ugly, just W's and L's. Just like no column for almost. Like almost beating the Cowboys. Still a '1' in both cases

The Panther are 1-3. I guess 2-2 isn't that bad.

...and Indy is 4-0...umm, I mean 1-3. And they lost to the Jags AND Detroit...

Carolina just gave up 300 yards to Julio Jones.
Think they miss Josh Norman?

You think Josh misses them? And is laughing his arse off the rest of the night.

 

[Bulldog]

The Redskins defense line as a unit is among the worst in the NFC.

First and foremost the 3-4 is supposed to be able to stop the run. This unit is the worst in the league vs. the rush.

I can't think of a 3-4 defense that has less inside at Nose Tackle.

Probably the best nose tackle would be Chris Baker, but he is currently the team's best defensive end.

Can't be in two places at the same time.

We got lucky last year in being able to sign Will Blackmon off the street and see Quinton Dunbar emerge as the most unlikely of play-makers on defense.

I don't see that happening again in 2016 for the defensive line.

The Redskins drafted a defensive lineman in the 5th round, but he didn't even make the 53 man roster ahead of some of the veterans that are currently out there failing on Sundays.

The veteran pick-ups in the offseason, Kendall Reyes and Ziggy Hood, don't look ready for prime-time.

Hood was hyped by the coaching staff during camp and the preseason, but I haven't seen him make many plays so far.

The pass rush from these guys has been non-existent.

Ironically, the one guy that has produced so far is Trent Murphy, who the team refuses to set at a position despite the fact it seems obvious his NFL future is at DE and not at OLB.

He has 4 sacks in 4 games.

When the team lines up in a 4-3 with Murphy at DE, he looks good.

Which shouldn't be surprising as that was the position he was projected to play in the NFL when coming out of Stanford.

Somehow the Redskins thought he would make a better OLB.

So, we flushed the first 2 years of his NFL career trying to make him into something he is not.

You can bet if Murphy hits the street as a free agent a smart coaching staff like the one in New England or Denver would know where to put him in their lineup to get the most out of him.

 

[JohnssBass]

I think you bring up a lot of good points. I've saying since last year moving Trent towards the middle would help against the run and you'd still have Kerrigan/Smith on the outside. But one problem of why they can't as often as they could/should is the next OLB on the list is Bates for subbing in for Ryan & Preston. Nothing against Houston, I like him but he is not close to Murphy from the outside, Trent's definitely the most versatile d Lineman they have. I don't know that the Skins actually tried to make him an OLB as much as wanting to use him as a pass rusher. I thought he was playing good in preseason so I'm not surprised that he is doing well now.

Jenkins is outplaying both Hood and Reyes. That's kinda sad in a way but do like what Cullen brings. Most people like Baker on the outside but he was the only backup plan the team had in case Golston went down at NT. He's still going to pull a double team no matter where he lines up and the team has to take advantage of it. It looks like they are mostly in a 4/3 type lineup these days anyway, they just can pull off a 3/4. Ioannidis is DT not a NT so if the Redskins would put that plan of turning him into a nose guard on the back burner for awhile they'd all be better off. No matter how big of a sledgehammer it takes they are bound and determined to cram square pegs in a round hole.

 

[JohnssBass]

I'm sure we'll agree that this is a bummer:

Austin Reiter suffered a torn ACL...going to season ending IR. I don't see him being to get a call back this year.

 

[Fear The Spear]

I'm sure we'll agree that this is a bummer:

Austin Reiter suffered a torn ACL...going to season ending IR. I don't see him being to get a call back this year.

RG3.
Then Reiter.
I wonder if Stephen Paea is getting nervous about a possible curse.

 

[Bulldog]

The Browns have always loved ex-Redskins.

Going back to the Mike Sellers and Kenard Lang days when the Browns signed them as free agents.

This year they brought Griffin, Paea and Reiter on board.

Can Perry Riley or one of our practice squad players be next?

I guess that's why the team moved up Ioannidis despite his not really being ready to play.

They were worried about losing him as a former #5 draft pick.

 

[JohnssBass]

The Browns have always loved ex-Redskins.

Going back to the Mike Sellers and Kenard Lang days when the Browns signed them as free agents.

This year they brought Griffin, Paea and Reiter on board.

Can Perry Riley or one of our practice squad players be next?

I guess that's why the team moved up Ioannidis despite his not really being ready to play.

They were worried about losing him as a former #5 draft pick.

Maybe they took Reiter off the PS fearing that Atlanta would get to him first.

A good reason for them to move Ioannidis up. Another is the little depth they have isn't that good. Kinda like what they are doing with Arie & Long - put them in and if they're doing OK let them play, they are your future. Hood's snap's took a major hit yesterday with Reye's coming back and does play better than Hood (not highest bar) but I wouldn't mind seeing Matt come in at least instead of Hood.