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Foles really impressed me yesterday but he's taking too many hard shots. He's going to be punch drunk before midseason if they don't get him some help. I'm over Forbath bring on Hocker...I'm afraid we are going to have to be patient with the special teams. I like the physical nature of this years squad. I'm sticking with my 10 -6.
 
You realize you just said we need to dump Forbath and followed that up by saying we need to be patient with Special Teams, right? :)

Forbath is a damn good kicker IMHO. They all miss occasionally. It is a shame he missed there for sure. Cousins missed. Niles Paul missed, lots of guys missed on a play or two yesterday. I say we stick with Kai, imperfect or not.
 
Yeah, Kai hits 18 straight before yesterday. Do the math. That's an impressively high accuracy and I don't recall him being a choker. It as just an unfortunate miss while kicking injured.
 
well, he may not be a choker but he displayed choking symptoms yesterday. That may be the first but if it happens more during important games it will give him the rep...deservedly or not.
 
One other thing to consider ... don't be surprised at all if Amerson is suspended for the NYG game. In the scrum after Baker took out Foles, the cameras clearly caught Amerson jumping up and throwing a punch at someone. With him probably suspended, and DHall down, and Hatcher limited, we're going to need to score points.
Indeed.

We are playing Mara's gang. So multiple suspensions would not be very surprising.

However, no excuses. You have to win home division games.

We need to **** the prom queen.
 
Wait...wait...that would be wrong. You know, seeing Foles on the ground...

Yeah, that would be wrong...had it been an illegal hit...but, you know, it really wasn't.

:)

By today's standards, you're right.

Way I see it is, if you can't hit the QB if he's trying to make a tackle, then the QB shouldn't be allowed to get involved once the ball is turned over. I don't want to see a player sustain a permanent injury, but sending a opposing player off the field dazed and confused is just fine with me. This is a violent game, and these guys get paid an ass load of money to play it. They make the choice to have a dangerous career, nobody is forcing them. Sorry if I'm too old school for ya. I still believe every father should teach his sons how to fight, and to stand up for those that cant. I still believe the best way to deal with a bully is beating the ever lovin snot out of them, and I still believe football is a sport where knocking an opposing player out of the game is a good thing. I'm not for the emasculation of the sport, which is where it's heading every time the change another rule to protect the QB and receivers. Again, I don't want to see people maimed, or careers ended, but dinged and off the field is just fine in my book. I want every player that faces our D to know they were in a fight. I want them walking off the field bruised and bloody. Foles is one tough SOB, and my hat's off to him. He never lost his composure, and was beaten up pretty good over the course of the game. He's a credit to the position.

Everything I've seen and read about Baker tells me he's not a malicious player, and I believe him when he says he was just doing his job of keep a player out of the play. At the speed this stuff happens, looking to see who you're hitting is unrealistic. There trained to pick up an opposing player and hit him. Don't want to get hit, stay away from the play...
 
Forbath has an injury of some kind...pfft regardless Hocker looked as good or better. Yes having patience with the special teams includes plays that have nothing to do with the kickoffs. Didn't Forbath miss an extra point in the last 3 weeks as well?
 
He had an extra point blocked - not the same thing. And Hocker missed a short one in pre-season.
 
Wow I can't believe anyone thinks this team is going to win 10 games, especially after the loss of Hall. I hope you're right but I think we're in for another sub.500 season, this D will stop no one.
 
They have already stopped one team. If we can find a way to compensate for the losses in the secondary, and keep Orakpo, Hatcher, Murphy, and Kerrigan on the field, we can have a lot of defensive success.
 
Yeah, despite my "yes, Om, we know" 5-year old stance on Jim Hazlett as DC, in 2014 at least he really can't be singled out for criticism yet.

His defense held Houston to 10 in Houston, and held Jacksonville to 10 and pummeled its hapless quarterback. Both of those performances should have been good enough to win games.

Against Philly, his defense dealt with one of the most explosive offenses in football, on the road, about as well as any team has since Chip Kelly brought his flying circus to town. Since the middle of last year, the Eagles are averaging about 29 ppg at home; we gave up 30--three of which were the 51-yard FG after the interception in our own territory. Not saying we were good defensively, or that there weren't shades of classic Hazlettian "don't-pressure-don't-cover" tendencies ... just that the pass offense they faced was about as good as there is right now--particularly at home.

Thursday night against the NYG will be a great litmus test for the 2014 iteration of the Skins Hazlett defense. At home, against an Giants offense that holds no particular electricity or mystery ... they should be able to contain that team well enough to give our offense a chance to overcome our amateurish special teams and get us to .500.
 
Baker will not be fined by the NFL, the block on Foles was legal.
No news on fines etc. regarding the 'rumble'

per the guys on ESPN 980
 
Baker will not be fined by the NFL, the block on Foles was legal.
No news on fines etc. regarding the 'rumble'

per the guys on ESPN 980

Did they say the block was legal? If so, does the NFL have to come out and say their refs screwed up that call?

EDIT: Should have googled before responded. They did review it and said it shouldn't have been a foul. I don't like to link to this paper's page, but it's the only place I can find a quote.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...spended-nfl-rules-his-hit-on-foles-was-legal/
 
Yeah, despite my "yes, Om, we know" 5-year old stance on Jim Hazlett as DC, in 2014 at least he really can't be singled out for criticism yet.

His defense held Houston to 10 in Houston, and held Jacksonville to 10 and pummeled its hapless quarterback. Both of those performances should have been good enough to win games.

Against Philly, his defense dealt with one of the most explosive offenses in football, on the road, about as well as any team has since Chip Kelly brought his flying circus to town. Since the middle of last year, the Eagles are averaging about 29 ppg at home; we gave up 30--three of which were the 51-yard FG after the interception in our own territory. Not saying we were good defensively, or that there weren't shades of classic Hazlettian "don't-pressure-don't-cover" tendencies ... just that the pass offense they faced was about as good as there is right now--particularly at home.

Thursday night against the NYG will be a great litmus test for the 2014 iteration of the Skins Hazlett defense. At home, against an Giants offense that holds no particular electricity or mystery ... they should be able to contain that team well enough to give our offense a chance to overcome our amateurish special teams and get us to .500.

Don't forget the 7 that special teams gave up. umm... nevermind.
 
It's all good, and no suspensions for anybody....

Meanwhile, NFL executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent told The Washington Post that Baker won't be suspended or fined for his hit.
"Baker didn't do anything wrong with that hit," Vincent said. "When you look at the rule, he didn't do anything illegal. People can say it's a cheap shot and you can talk about whether it might fall under unsportsmanlike conduct. But when you know the rule and you look at the play, he didn't hit him in the head. He didn't hit him in the neck. We looked at it. I looked at it very closely. He's not going to be fined for that."
Baker still could be fined for his role in the ensuing fight between the Redskins and Eagles players, although no player is facing a suspension, Vincent told the Post.
"The fight part of it, that's easy," he said. "Those are non-debatable. You can look at it and tell for yourself. Those are just fines [rather than suspensions]."

Philadelphia Eagles OL Jason Peters expects fine for hit on Washington Redskins DE Chris Baker but would 'do the same thing' again - ESPN


 
Snowball this is hell... oh wait, nevermind.

Looks like you responded while I was editing my post. Was very surprised to see they did come out and say it was a legal hit. Maybe they'll do something about that crew of referees. No wonder they were 1st or 2nd in penalties for the year. They see things that aren't there.
 
Looks like you responded while I was editing my post. Was very surprised to see they did come out and say it was a legal hit. Maybe they'll do something about that crew of referees. No wonder they were 1st or 2nd in penalties for the year. They see things that aren't there.

They admit to the teams and the teams usually report it to the media. Its not like they publicly display scoring for the refs which wouldn't be a bad idea. Instead the refs are graded and ranked being given the "bad games" like most of our games for the past 20 years. No its not a mirage, we have had the shittiest referees during our worst seasons. Prime time and highlighted games get the best crews - at least that's how I was lead to believe it worked by some refs I chatted with once.
 

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