NFL Combine

[Primus Porcus]

It's that time of year again, the Underwear Olympics have started!

Here's the FIELD schedule for the next couple days in case people want to try and keep up

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In case you want a much deeper schedule here you go

2022 NFL Scouting Combine: Schedule, results and live updates

The daily schedule for the 2022 NFL Scouting Combine, with measurements, workout numbers and 40-yard dash times.

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[Primus Porcus]

first bit of Commanders 'news'

 

[Primus Porcus]

Not surprising, I imagine we'll be interviewing all of the top guys

 

[Chris]

If that is the standard I would be drafted by the Eagles. 🤣

 

[Primus Porcus]

Pretty sure they were the one playing Rock Paper Scissors last year.

 

[Primus Porcus]

This is my guy to watch.

 

[SkinsOrlando]

As a potential 1st round pick ST or just in general?

 

[Win4us]

Strong is their real target, everything else is a ruse.

 

[Primus Porcus]

As a potential 1st round pick ST or just in general?

Originally I was thinking I was thinking LATE 1st (because most teams believe you do not take a QB in the 2nd round. If you like a QB enough to take them in the 2nd, you trade up into the end of the 1st and take them there to maintain the 5th year option), but i'm wondering if he starts moving up the board more and more.

 

[Boone]

This is my guy to watch.

Draft profiles warn he’s not very accurate and he has a tendency to make inaccurate throws under pressure. Not a great pocket passer, doesn’t throw with anticipation, and while he’s very athletic, isn’t very elusive and takes a lot of unnecessary hits.

Im not a college QB watcher. But that sounds like a bad combination of traits at the NFL level…

Gimme the positives ST… I know he’s big and can throw downfield, what makes him one to watch?

 

[Primus Porcus]

The dude can heave it and it looks effortless most of the time. He has a very quick and compact stride, and the arm is fast through the release.

This is a series of throws he's made, I dont have ALL 22 for college

https://twitter.com/search?q=desmond%20ridder%20throw&src=typed_query

This is an ELITE throw.



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	Passing
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
*2018	Cincinnati	American	FR	QB	13	194	311	62.4	2445	7.9	8.4	20	5	146.4
*2019	Cincinnati	American	SO	QB	13	179	325	55.1	2164	6.7	6.5	18	9	123.7
*2020	Cincinnati	American	JR	QB	10	186	281	66.2	2296	8.2	8.6	19	6	152.9
*2021	Cincinnati	American	SR	QB	14	251	387	64.9	3334	8.6	9.2	30	8	158.7
Career	Cincinnati					810	1304	62.1	10239	7.9	8.2	87	28	145.8

Look up and down his highlights including the video I shared above and this one. 2 perfect passes dropped by his WRs after making a throw most QB's cant make.


Josh Allen had a similar scouting report without the statistical backing as Ridder.

Ridder is a 4 year starter that led Cincinnati to college football playoff appearance, so he was facing Power 5 competition.

He also did it with the 2nd lowest time to throw...

 

[Boone]

I’ll spend some more time checking him out.

 

[Burgundy Burner]

The most pro-ready QBs in this class are:

1. Kenny Pickett
2. Desmond Ridder
3. Sam Howell
3. Matt Corral
5. Carson Strong
6. Malik Willis
7. Skylar Thompson
7. Jack Coan
9. Brock Purdy
10. Bailey Zappe

Dustin Crum and Kaleb Eleby are destined to be somewhere on a practice squad.

 

[Chris]

Ridder was the best overall QB that I saw in the Senior Bowl.

 

[Primus Porcus]

His footwork is godawful. I know Mahommes gets away with it, but there aren’t many Patrick Mahommes. I know he’s got an arm, but what about accuracy and the ability to read and make throws with anticipation - those seem like must haves in the NFL and that makes me nervous.

I've seen him throw with anticipation, a lot of time the ball is coming out before the WR is open.

I agree he could use some technical coaching, but that's a big part of the development of a QB. We're also not talking about the 'strongest' draft class at QB so I think all of these QBs are going to benefit from that. I've always believed him to be a value in the 2nd round, hoping he would fall to the bottom of the first and we could move back up and get him to preserve the 5th year option.

As BB pointed out, I also think he's one of the more 'pro-ready' QBs. I don't see him as a day 1 starter, but regarding the things that 'can't be tought' i've seen quite a bit.

I'm getting geeky, and a lot of this was going to be part of my QB Pre-draft breakdown lol.

 

[Boone]

Yeah, as I edited my previous post, I’ll spend some time looking more closely at him. QB draft is a crapshoot even by the experts.

 

[Primus Porcus]

Yeah, as I edited my previous post, I’ll spend some time looking more closely at him. QB draft is a crapshoot even by the experts.

Absolutely.. Josh Allen had A LOT of red flags, but he was big, atheletic, and had a good arm. His Comp% and Accuracy were major knocks. Dwayne Haskins (whether we want to admit it or not) was expected to be a baller. A lot of people had him rated as the 2nd best QB in that draft and the world was shocked when the Giants took Daniel Jones instead of him (they were right about Jones, not so right about Haskins). Burrow ascended to the top pick only in his senior season, as a lot of people had him tagged as a day 3 pick prior to that year...

And i'm just an idiot on a message board, so I know I don't ACTUALLY have a clue lol.

 

[Boone]

I get it but we know that a) you cannot base NFL performance on college (that can be a negative or positive) and b) every QB is unique - just because Josh Allen made the leap doesn’t mean anyone in this draft can. Just sayin…

And you know a helluva lot more than me!

 

[Burgundy Burner]

The issues with Allen at Wyoming centered on intermediate/short-yardage accuracy, not progressing through his reads, and abandoning the pocket much sooner than needed. There were a couple of maturity concerns, but it wasn't a deal breaker. He has improved the mechanics on the passing issues and the reads, but he still takes off a bit soon. At 6-5, 240, leaving the pocket a bit early is obviously not an issue. I thought he was a top 15 QB coming out, but needed work.

Ridder doesn't have the bigger frame that Allen possesses, but there are a few negatives to think about. Reading through his progressions is an issue at times, but that can be overcome with a mix of pro-style sets, a strong run game, some RPO (but not too much), and throws that are tailored-made for him. After a learning curve and hopefully mastering the offense and nuances of the NFL, he has the potential to be a very good QB.

Ridder has a tendency at times to leave the pocket a bit early, especially if he senses any kind of pressure that could materialize. He can't overthink it at the next level.

He also needs to step into a throw much better than what we see now - especially on longer passes. The accuracy is good, but it could be better.

Ridder knows how to slide when running for yards downfield, but he will need to be aware that sliding sooner or running out of bounds a few yards earlier is not a bad option.

There are many positives like mobility, experience, steady growth, maturity, leadership, arm strength, and his release has improved significantly since his first year. There is a lot to like, but Desmond Ridder does need a bit of work. His ceiling might be the highest of any QB in this class.

 

[Boone]

Great overview BB