Joe Barry Report Card

Barry's scheme, more often than not, has guys in position to make the play. Missed tackles are killing them. Gotta find a way to improve tackling. It's more bad than good now, league wide, due to ignorant CBA rules.

Our weakness up the middle, at tackle, ILB, and safety, is hard to hide. Need to keep getting turnovers until Mr McCloo can fill some more holes. Which I'm sure he will. Just not as fast as internet GM's could.
 
I don't remember all the particulars Sandy, but if I remember correctly, there was a possible scenario that depending on how we finished we would have 'earned' the London game and then our next opponent would be in London as well.

Ahh..here is the article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...skins-to-face-bengals-in-london-next-october/

Okay so I wasn't totally crazy in that I was thinking that there might have been two consecutive weeks of London games and then my misguided logic took me to next week since there was a game in London yesterday. All of this of course totally makes up for my lack of simple check of the schedule<grin>.

Anyway.. now I am aware of the CORRECT schedule and I know we play Baltimore this coming weekend and we don't play Cincinnati until the end of October.

Got it for nowllllll
 
I have been sitting here for the past 5 years while the Redskins have ostensibly been running a 3-4 defense and wondering when the team was goin g to finally locate a NT that can anchor against the run.

This goes back beyond Barry to Haslett.

These guys come in here and talk about how flexible the 3-4 defense can be and how many opportunities it creates for pressure on the qb.

But when I think of successful 3-4 defenses I think of ones with Haloti Ngata at NT and Ray Lewis at 255 playing inside linebacker with Terrell Suggs rushing from the outside.

We have never had a NT that legitimately called for a double-team.

We have never had an inside linebacker with the size and strength to penetrate, take on blockers and make plays at the line of scrimmage.

And despite efforts in the draft and free agency, none of the outside linebackers have turned into consistent threats that cause a defensive coordinator headaches preparing for.

So, in sum what the hell are we doing on that side of the ball?

It can't be because Barry simply tells McCloughan and Gruden that he doesn't need much on defense and to concentrate on stacking talent on the offensive side of the ball :)
 
Barry's scheme, more often than not, has guys in position to make the play. Missed tackles are killing them. Gotta find a way to improve tackling. It's more bad than good now, league wide, due to ignorant CBA rules.

Our weakness up the middle, at tackle, ILB, and safety, is hard to hide. Need to keep getting turnovers until Mr McCloo can fill some more holes. Which I'm sure he will. Just not as fast as internet GM's could.

They're so weak in the middle that even when a RB is stopped for what should be no gain - they guy can fall forward for 2 yards because the center of the d Line has been shoved backwards.

BTW, is there any distance on 3rd down that their opponents actually need to look at as 3rd & long? Giving up 1st downs on 3rd & 8; 3rd & 10 and such is shameful. They were the worst in the league coming into the game at giving up 1st downs, not stopping on 3rd down and forcing the fewest punts. Browns got 26 first downs on 69 plays, were 8 of 12 on 3rd's and punted the ball once. 69 plays is a lot (average around 60) - without those two fumbles that could have 80.
 
The DL has been an area of neglect for some time, draft-wise.

To be sure there have been failures too. Ioannidis doesn't look like a diamond in the rough at this point, more likely a Josh LeRibeus type borderline NFLer. Jarvis Jenkins, the former #2 pick, was a disappointment.

In free agency we have invested money in Stephen Paea who is now with the Browns and in Jason Hatcher who was broken down at age 33 when he arrived from Dallas.

Again, if the team would consider moving to a 4-3 where Kerrigan and Trent Murphy are the DEs and Chris Baker and Francois could be be the DTs that would probably be the best option with the talent on hand.

Our linebackers outside of Smith tend to be smaller guys in the 230's that fit into the 4-3 on the outside.
 
I agree with both of your posts BT. I was absolutely convinced the team would draft the NT that this defense desperately needs in the first round. I understand the pick we made considering the age of DJax and Garcon, but man the Skins really needed a NT.
 
So, in sum what the hell are we doing on that side of the ball?

It can't be because Barry simply tells McCloughan and Gruden that he doesn't need much on defense and to concentrate on stacking talent on the offensive side of the ball :)

I gotta tell ya, we're going to lose more games because the defense can't stop anyone than we are because of Cousins & the offensive errors being made. The offense is finding itself, IMHO. But defensively, these guys are lost. They don't seem to play as collectively as they should. And tackling. O. M. G. I have never seen anything like that from a professional team before. So many missed tackles. And that was the Browns. We've got the Ravens coming up & they aren't someone to sneeze at. I don't know who is responsible for tackling on the coaching side, but if that doesn't improve by this upcoming game in B-More, he or they should be immediately fired & replaced by a dancing llama, which I am convinced can do a much better job at this point.
 
I understood the draft choices we made last year.

I think the offensive line needed the most attention and we took Scherff with the #5 pick, even though he was rated out of the top 10 by most draft analysts.

So, was that strictly BPA?

I don't see how Scherff graded out ahead of Leonard Williams.

That said, I understood the pick.

This year I understood the pick of a wide receiver with the age and pending FA status of our starters.

But in the 'year of the defensive linemen' as it was called you would figure that SOMEWHERE in those first 3 rounds the Redskins would either keep their pick and select a DL or trade a pick from next year to gain another selection in 2016.

With Knighton moving on, Hatcher retiring and Paea a bust in Year 1 as a free agent, this team simply could not come out of the draft and free agency without ANY name additions.

But that's what we did.

And now we are paying for it.
 
I don't know who is responsible for tackling on the coaching side, but if that doesn't improve by this upcoming game in B-More, he or they should be immediately fired & replaced by a dancing llama, which I am convinced can do a much better job at this point.

Bring him in for an interview, at least. The charisma from a dancing llama, may be just what the defense needs to get fired up. We got female referees in the NFL. So, why discriminate against llamas ?

 
Tonight the Vikings play the Giants.

Minnesota was able to build a nice defensive front.

One of their key acquisitions was Linval Joseph, a high draft pick by the Giants, who was let go when his rookie contract expired.

Only 25 years old and with good power and strength, I am surprised we weren't in the market for his services.
 
Bring him in for an interview, at least. The charisma from a dancing llama, may be just what the defense needs to get fired up. We got female referees in the NFL. So, why discriminate against llamas ?

I'd hire him. Cost us peanuts too. Or...oats...whatever they eat.
 
We could have played back to back games in London if finished 3rd or 4th in the East.

Last year we struggled against the run and pressure. We didn't blitz a lot supposedly to protect secondary. We now have a decent secondary. Yet, there is still struggles stopping the run, getting off the field, and QB pressure.

The players are only doing what they are asked. A good DC could and would identify the problem and make corrections. When your previous DC experience was for 0-16 team it doesn't give you a lot of confidence.

I don't think Barry can make the changes. Is he too stubborn and Norv like in what we do works? Or is he in over his head? Grudges needs to understand how Barry can impact his job security.
 
Good news is that there's an entire division of teams (the whole NFC South) who have all allowed more points than the Skins this year.
Bad news is, outside of that division, only 2 other teams in the whole rest of the league have allowed more points.
 
It's one thing to give up big plays to Ben Roethlisberger.

It's another to allow Cody Kessler to sit there comfortable in the pocket and let him keep the Browns in the game until the fourth quarter.

We needed to pressure the rookie A LOT more than we did and not sit back and rush 4 while dropping 7.

Last night the Vikings really came after Eli Manning on some key third downs and forced some errant throws and drops to get them off the field.

We need to emulate that and be more aggressive against Baltimore.
 
Skins have a 3rd and long problem and a run stopping problem. Joe Barry gets an F. The Browns would have destroyed us if Isaiah Crowell had 40 carries.

I don't want to hear about the defensive talent. It's not great, but damn, it seems like the ILBs always hit the wrong gaps and get mauled. We don't know what's supposed to happen. But this I do know, what's supposed to happen sure as **** ain't happenin'. Over and over and over and over again. Barry should be coaching D-III. Not NFL. He doesn't have a single good defense on his resume. Hell, he doesn't have a single average defense on his resume. Hell, he doesn't have a single "almost average, but not quite" defense on his resume. He has sucked his entire career.

The Skins were once a proud franchise (thanks Joe Gibbs, how I miss thee). And for 20+ years now they have been hiring clowns like Barry? And Jay? WTF
 

Nice link. Bringing back Pot Roast is waving a white flag.
I think we all understand that Barry isn't playing with a full deck (of players) and it was obvious in preseason that the center of the defensive line was weak. But all involved chose to go with the players they had and now have to accept the responsibility of guys like Hood & Reyes who have no business in the middle of that line. They are rag dolls. Skins had to pick up Jenkins, who hasn't been quite as bad as portrayed, due to injury. Butler always draws a double team because if not he's in the backfield. I haven't seen anyone take on Baker one-on-one and win. RJF has looked good. Trent can play anywhere they put him and is getting better every week.

Barry had to expect the Browns to put up an 8 man line - they've been doing it all year. 7.5 ypc by one guy, fortunately the Browns helped the Skins out by only running Cromwell 15 times. Lots of missed tackles but they also should have had more guys closer to the line. Pulling guys off to play deep against a single WR set should not be necessary if you have a $75 million CB.

Defense gave up 8 out of 12 third downs and six of those eight were for 7 or more yards to go on third down. 3rd & 7 (TD); & 8; & 9 (twice); & 10; & 11. I'm having trouble blaming only the players or only the coaches for that, there's plenty of suck to go around. What did they stop on third? - Stopped a 3rd & 11 which led to the only punt of the day for the Browns, a 3rd & 5, a 3rd & 6 that the Browns stopped themselves with a penalty and got a FG on and another FG when Skins held on 3rd & 7.

The other team is going to make plays but this is just plain bad. Washington worst in the league in defending 3rd downs. They also lead the league in giving up 1st downs. They also force the fewest punts in the league.

Barry is starting to make some adjustments, they even had one play with Smith lined up next to the NT and put Bates and Murphy on the ends. Imagine, moving a pass rusher into a spot besides the end of the line, where he might make a play through the center, is just unheard of. Sadly it has been unheard of through the first three games. But at least there's some attempt to fix things. Barry has limited talent to work with but what good coaches do is work with and adapt to with what they have and he has to do better. That's slowly coming around but has more to do with circumstance than brilliant planning however maybe it sticks.

I think it was kind of telling when Gruden was asked why he didn't stop the clock at the end of the half. He said he thought Cleveland would have gone for it on 4th and not settle for a FG. Translation - I didn't think my defense could stop 4th and 8.
 
If these upper 20's rankings on D don't improve over the season I'm all for promoting Manusky or Olive to 2017 defensive coordinator.

These guys should NEVER be whiffing tackles at this level. In that respect DingleBarry should be forcing the culprits to sit and watch...like a time-out of sorts.

Hell maybe they need to interview London for the gig.
 
Honestly at this point it's like Haslet never left!
 

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