Covering the Commanders: Keim and Company Discussion

[SkinsNumberOne]

Not to say any of this untrue or inaccurate, but "reports" are great--I always verify the source. There is so much BS floating around X/Twitter these days I always verify who it's coming from.

By the way, I do this too. I only fully believe it with a really good trust chain (trusted sources). Another way that trust gets built is multiple sources with good verification. However, if I heard it directly (quotes/videos that I personally watched), obviously I know it was said.

I care about my credibility, pretty much everywhere. So if I heard it from something that is generally unreliable or is just an idea, I will typically be very careful to caveat that if I think someone could misconstrue that.

 

[SkinsNumberOne]

Which part, I said a lot. There have been articles on it. I have a good memory for it because there are certain things that I lock away (this is also what I did with those Kliff/DQ pressers I mentioned so many times here). Certain things I really want to remember, I lock away. I won't necessarily be able to find the original source but if you tell me which part (the timeline? the WAS offer?) I may try to find it. I think I actually posted it here. I believe it was Athletic with the original reporting on a bunch of it but it was followed by some others (unclear if they were just re-stating the reporting). Some of that did not come out in those early weeks, but it came out much later. I read about it still later (like 4 months ago).

If you were talking about the WAS offer:

Commanders reportedly offered Mike Macdonald HC job before he took Seahawks gig | FOX Sports

While the Commanders hired Dan Quinn to be their next head coach, a report from The Athletic detailed how far they went in trying to hire Ben Johnson and Mike Macdonald.

www.foxsports.com

References the timeline and the WAS offer, and sources the offer to the Athletic which I think was the main source for a LOT of other pieces on it. I don't remember catching that tidbit back then, probably because it seems like it leaked days later when maybe most of us were drilling down on DQ? Not sure. I would have thought this "offer" piece -- I wouldn't have missed. I think I only "found out" personally some months ago (if that was what you were asking about).

 

[Riggo44]

It's all moot now. I wanted Macdonald and think he's a great coach--but I am not sure anyone would have succeeded here this last year.

 

[SkinsNumberOne]

It's all moot now. I wanted Macdonald and think he's a great coach--but I am not sure anyone would have succeeded here this last year.

Macdonald is not succeeding because he is some kind of magician, he has a fully developed FO that knows what it is doing. Schneider is no joke.

Didn't Macdonald make some major changes to his staff after y-1?

Mike Macdonald praises Geno Smith, gives outlook on new offensive coordinator search

Seattle Seahawks head coach Mike Macdonald expanded on his decision to fire offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb, and threw his support behind quarterback Geno Smith during his season-ending press conference on Tuesday.

www.fox13seattle.com

See, for me, I like that he saw things were wrong and he made a move to fix it. If you read that article and you hear his reasoning - it just sounds more clear to me. Sometimes DQ's quotes sound a little rambling. Also, Mac didn't wait 1.5-2 years like DQ did with Whitt. 2024 had issues on D, visible issues. Actually, quite a few, and many in the DB group.

I agree, I don't know that Macdonald would have been as successful as a Commander; heck, he may not have had the year in 2024 we had (so much would have been different, I would just say "no that doesn't happen"). Do I think we would have a better HC and be better in the long run? Maybe - even there - there is chemistry with the GM that matters too. For me, though, my answer is yes.

 

[Riggo44]

Shoulda-coulda-woulda...
maybe, maybe, maybe...

It's all hypothetical now.

I want to see what this team does this offseason. Peters looked angry at the end of season press conference. Agree or not with the how/why/what they did the coordinators, Quinn saw something needed to change on both sides of the ball. I get the feeling they're not fucking around--and I like it--they never once mentioned being so injured in that presser, I don't recall.

 

[Riggo44]

LaMont Jordan.

Oh, VoR, one more thing this dipshit said: move on from Jeremy Reaves...

 

[Boone]

From the crazy rumors department...

In the midst of some fairly significant staff cuts, it is rumored that the Washington Post could eliminate it's Sports desk completely.

I don't know how that would make sense in a town where there is a pro sports franchise for every major sport - but hey, who knows?

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

Oh, VoR, one more thing this dipshit said: move on from Jeremy Reaves...

Yeah, I forgot about that one. Completely insane. I mean

1. He's a pro-bowl caliber special teams player
2. He's a better than replacement level backup safety.

The reason he's playing this year are:
1. Will Harris got hurt
2. Quan Martin got benched
3. Percy Butler isn't good

But we should use a fullback. Because Doc said so.

Such a dingus.

I understand why the Washington Media all love Doc. I'm sure he's great to work with, and he's probably a really good person, and fun to be around. But he's just SO BAD at his job, it's unfathomable to me how he has people who listen to him, and the other media types, even the smart ones like Galdi and Sheehan (who I have issues with but isn't stupid), revere him.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

From the crazy rumors department...

In the midst of some fairly significant staff cuts, it is rumored that the Washington Post could eliminate it's Sports desk completely.

I don't know how that would make sense in a town where there is a pro sports franchise for every major sport - but hey, who knows?

I'm honestly not sure that it matters.

It would be very interesting to see where people who read the Washington Post actually are located. Print Media is basically dead. I think my parents are one of like 45 people who still get the post delivered.

Everything is online. There really isn't a tie from the location to the city anymore. And there are plenty of other outfits which cover the sports just as well if not better than they do. They no longer have some type of exclusive access.

I personally don't care for the Post, haven't in YEARS, so I really don't care. I like Nicki J., and now that she's gone to the Athletic, I really don't have any reason to care if the Post keeps or cuts all of it's sports stuff.

Frankly, I don't think their coverage will be missed. It's not earth shattering or ground breaking. It's basically just another outlet for the same group of folks.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

I think the biggest surprise of the day is I found a fan who has a media beef as big as mine with Chris Russell:

Riggo44 and Lynell Willingham.

Damn.

I also think:
Doc Walker is a doofus who hasn't had a cogent thought since the Reagan administration
The Junkies are all morons and have no idea why they are an institution
BMitch makes people stupid, but not as much as Doc Walker
Grant is a blow-hard arrogant twit
Danny is not "Funny Danny." He is an ignorant know nothing
Thom "Squeaky" Lovero is the most self loving, arrogant, "build a temple to me because of what I did in the 1980's" d-bag out there.

But Chris Russell takes the cake for overall stupidity, trying to convince me Joe Barry and Greg Manuski were not bad at their jobs, one source at a time, pregnant pause damn fool.

Did I miss anybody?

 

[Conn]

I'm honestly not sure that it matters.

It would be very interesting to see where people who read the Washington Post actually are located. Print Media is basically dead. I think my parents are one of like 45 people who still get the post delivered.

Everything is online. There really isn't a tie from the location to the city anymore. And there are plenty of other outfits which cover the sports just as well if not better than they do. They no longer have some type of exclusive access.

I personally don't care for the Post, haven't in YEARS, so I really don't care. I like Nicki J., and now that she's gone to the Athletic, I really don't have any reason to care if the Post keeps or cuts all of it's sports stuff.

Frankly, I don't think their coverage will be missed. It's not earth shattering or ground breaking. It's basically just another outlet for the same group of folks.

I mean, say what you will about the current state of quality sports journalism in America (it’s a low point)…but one of the richest dudes in the world, whose other businesses make ungodly amounts of money, taking a sledge hammer to one of the papers of record and laying off tons of journalists (not just sports writers) is unequivocally a bad thing. Of course, those dudes shouldn’t legally be able to own media outlets (newspapers especially) in the first place.

Not to mention that sports are more profitable and relevant than ever in this country. So the related industries that historically have employed actual hard working people dying while top-heavy gambling giants run by immoral tech firms rake in all the profits from the popularity of the games…it doesn’t sit right with me. Regardless of how I feel about the current individual sports reporters working at the Post.

 

[Riggo44]

@Riggo44 and Lynell Willingham

He's the worst kind of moron--the kind that thinks he's smarter than everyone else. He's a dumbass of the highest order.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

I mean, say what you will about the current state of quality sports journalism in America (it’s a low point)…but one of the richest dudes in the world, whose other businesses make ungodly amounts of money, taking a sledge hammer to one of the papers of record and laying off tons of journalists (not just sports writers) is unequivocally a bad thing. Of course, those dudes shouldn’t legally be able to own media outlets (newspapers especially) in the first place.

Not to mention that sports are more profitable and relevant than ever in this country. So the related industries that historically have employed actual hard working people dying while top-heavy gambling giants run by immoral tech firms rake in all the profits from the popularity of the games…it doesn’t sit right with me. Regardless of how I feel about the current individual sports reporters working at the Post.

I don't disagree. I just think the entire industry is either dying or going through a transformation. Whether I like the transformation or not. And either you have to figure out how to deal with and thrive in the transition or you'll be dead. And Bezos isn't doing charity work with the Post. If they don't make money, he has no interest in owning a non-profit newspaper. I still have no idea why he bought it to begin with.

I don't really have any beef with any of the current sports reporter types at the post. At least, I don't think I do.

The Washington Post was actually a client of mine for a bit about a decade ago, before Bezos bought them. They were kindof a shit show then. And I didn't think they had a clue how to run a business. They really struggled with the transition, and other entrants into the market.

I've beefed with the post for over 2 decades. So I care less about the fate of the newspaper. I do feel bad for specific journalists. Though, if we're being honest, it's a newspaper which has been living off the Watergate reporting legacy for the better part of 40 years. It hasn't been that level of an organization since I was a child, and it's just getting worse and worse.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

I know I don't like Jason Reid. What I don't remember is, there were 2 Washington Post reporters, one replaced the other, and I liked the first one less than the second one. I think Reid was the first. Is he the one who would call his replacement young bull or something? And maybe was the co-host with Arrington on that absolutely horrific excuse of a radio show?

They all replaced Jason LaConfora, who was a travesty against humanity.

I'm blanking on the name of the other person who I think came after Reid.

Or my memory is shot and I'm wrong about all of this.

 

[Riggo44]

I'm blanking on the name of the other person who I think came after Reid.

Or my memory is shot and I'm wrong about all of this.

Mike Jones. About as insightful and connected as reading a fortune cookie about the team.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

Mike Jones. About as insightful and connected as reading a fortune cookie about the team.

So which one was the bull and called the other one little bull? Reid came first, right, then Mike Jones took over, and there was a glimmer of hope he would be better, and then he really wasn't that much better? Or do I have it reversed...

For a good long time there, the Washington Post actively sought out the most negative, contrarian, anti-Skins reporters they could find. JLC, Reid, Jones, etc. It did tail off after a while, I think after the name and then even more so when the team was sold.

But for a while, if you were at the post and you weren't writing an attack piece, you weren't doing your job.

Which would have been fine if it wasn't so transparent. Or it wasn't just the regurgitation of the same old tired narratives.

 

[Riggo44]

To be fair, there wasn't really anything to be positive about--but those writers never grew out of the Snyder Era negativity. It's all the same drivel. Mike Wise is another

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

To be fair, there wasn't really anything to be positive about--but those writers never grew out of the Snyder Era negativity. It's all the same drivel. Mike Wise is another

Who said anything about potitive?

Not a regurgitated hit piece was a low bar to jump over and they all tripped.

Mike Wise had as much to do with us losing the Redskins name as any single person, and he can suffer 1000 papercuts and lemon juice poured on them until the end of his days as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Pokey]

So which one was the bull and called the other one little bull? Reid came first, right, then Mike Jones took over, and there was a glimmer of hope he would be better, and then he really wasn't that much better? Or do I have it reversed...

For a good long time there, the Washington Post actively sought out the most negative, contrarian, anti-Skins reporters they could find. JLC, Reid, Jones, etc. It did tail off after a while, I think after the name and then even more so when the team was sold.

But for a while, if you were at the post and you weren't writing an attack piece, you weren't doing your job.

Which would have been fine if it wasn't so transparent. Or it wasn't just the regurgitation of the same old tired narratives.

The Post would NOT hire people from the D.C. area, and it showed.

Reid would actively try to antagonize the fan base and claim that it made him objective. What a horse's behind.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

The Post would NOT hire people from the D.C. area, and it showed.

Reid would actively try to antagonize the fan base and claim that it made him objective. What a horse's behind.

And I think Reid followed JLC, who was the pits of the world, and actually attacked the fans and message boards for taking him to task for his lack of sources and rumor mill reporting.

That said, that horses ass Larry Michael (no S, just Larry Michael) sunk to his level and called him the Sourcerer, which was a stupid bit which went on too long.

The Washington Post hasn't been a reputable source of news since the mid 1980's. It's been going downhill every since then trying to keep pace, and losing badly. And that's not a political commentary, it's just they stopped being good at reporting things and hired bad writers.