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[Primus Porcus]

That's the market for premium WRs now. Jayden is on a rookie deal... pay the man his money.

 

[Faithful Fan]

Terry has earned it with consistent production and outstanding work ethic. You should reward guys like him, so pay him what he’s worth. He is a top ten wide receiver which should put him in the $30 million range.

 

[RedWolf]

HAILyeah!

 

[Boone]

Terry has earned it with consistent production and outstanding work ethic. You should reward guys like him, so pay him what he’s worth. He is a top ten wide receiver which should put him in the $30 million range.

My guess is that the team will have no problem putting TM in the $30 mill club but that what is being worked out are the details - how much of it is guaranteed given his age, length of contract, etc... And we are throwing that $30 million threshold around, but what if TMs agent is demanding they make him the highest paid WR in the NFL?

You just never know. I suspect knowing what we know about McLaurin that there won't be any insanely outrageous demands, but it is the NFL and anything can happen.

 

[Chris 44]

My guess is that the team will have no problem putting TM in the $30 mill club but that what is being worked out are the details - how much of it is guaranteed given his age, length of contract, etc... And we are throwing that $30 million threshold around, but what if TMs agent is demanding they make him the highest paid WR in the NFL?

You just never know. I suspect knowing what we know about McLaurin that there won't be any insanely outrageous demands, but it is the NFL and anything can happen.

If I had to guess I would think its not so much the money in and of itself, but the length of the contract and how the contract impacts the team say 3 to 4 years down the road when Terry may no longer be as explosive and we need to pay some other top tier WR.

 

[Boone]

Yes. And here's the thing, the idea that you just 'reward' a great player like Terry and give him whatever makes him happy, that sounds good and fair. But a really good GM isn't going to make decisions based on past performance or emotions. They have to be cold calculators of what is best for the team as well as the player.

I suspect this will get done, not because of how 'grateful' Peters is for who McLaurin is - although I'm sure he is grateful and appreciative. It'll get done because of what McLaurin can bring on the football field over the duration of his next contract.

 

[Anselmheifer]

Yes. And here's the thing, the idea that you just 'reward' a great player like Terry and give him whatever makes him happy, that sounds good and fair. But a really good GM isn't going to make decisions based on past performance or emotions. They have to be cold calculators of what is best for the team as well as the player.

I suspect this will get done, not because of how 'grateful' Peters is for who McLaurin is - although I'm sure he is grateful and appreciative. It'll get done because of what McLaurin can bring on the football field over the duration of his next contract.

I agree, but also, there is something to be said for rewarding the players who your team drafts and develops and who are super productive and set the culture. Other players are going to look at this contract and if it doesn’t feel fair, they could potentially feel different about management and their future prospects here.

 

[Bulldog]

Washington should frontload Terry's new deal to coincide with the need to pay Jayden in 2 plus years, giving him a lot of the guarantees in 2025 and 2026.

The only fly in the ointment to me is if Terry's agent holds out and says his client deserves to make the same or more than Jamar Chase and Lamb, who have put up pinball numbers in the NFL albeit with excellent quarterbacks.

Terry had under 1,100 yards last year but 13 touchdowns. So, it's a need to INTERPRET that production out vs. the others.

He proved to be one of the best red zone targets in the league but in terms of total catches and yards he was very good to very good plus but was not a league leader.

 

[Faithful Fan]

Statistically speaking, Terry is rarely a top ten receiver in a single season, however he is a top ten player over the past 3, 4, 5, or 6 seasons, which indicates his impressive consistency.

 

[Enforcer]

 

[Knightingale]

Washington should frontload Terry's new deal to coincide with the need to pay Jayden in 2 plus years, giving him a lot of the guarantees in 2025 and 2026.

The only fly in the ointment to me is if Terry's agent holds out and says his client deserves to make the same or more than Jamar Chase and Lamb, who have put up pinball numbers in the NFL albeit with excellent quarterbacks.

Terry had under 1,100 yards last year but 13 touchdowns. So, it's a need to INTERPRET that production out vs. the others.

He proved to be one of the best red zone targets in the league but in terms of total catches and yards he was very good to very good plus but was not a league leader.

That first point is likely the most important.

We have a wide open window with Jayden on a rookie deal right now, but that window will close fast if we don't prepare for the day we need to pay him. Obviously there may be things that help us, like the salary cap going up, but that's where Adam Peters is going to really ean his paycheck. Can he keep us competitive when those big contracts hit? That's when he'll earn the big bucks, if he can keep us consistently competitive while juggling the big numbers.

 

[skinsinparadise]

 

[Bulldog]

This entire issue of paying older players and how much to pay them is why I don't want to trade draft picks any longer and want to use the picks we have to effect in bringing in more Conerly's and Trey Amos type rookies with high upside.

 

[SkinsLife]

Issue is paying Terry based on past performance .. not a good idea when he is about to hit 30 and start the typical WR decline over the next year or two. His guide should be closer to Ayiuk contract... he is not close to Chase. 3-4 year contract with 2y guaranteed of 25-28mil per year, sounds fair

 

[heisenberg]

Washington should frontload Terry's new deal

I wish the nfl could figure out a way to make contracts ironclad for both the players and the team like other sports do so this doesn’t happen so often.
Front loading a contract sounds like a great plan but when the end gets near and theres no guarantees left and the annual salary is way below average because it was front loaded the player has leverage and holds out because on paper he's underpaid.
Probably not a big issue for terry because he'd be nearing his mid 30's when that bacame an problem and probably have little leverage but i still dont like the idea and hate how nfl contracts work.

 

[Anselmheifer]

I wish the nfl could figure out a way to make contracts ironclad for both the players and the team like other sports do so this doesn’t happen so often.
Front loading a contract sounds like a great plan but when the end gets near and theres no guarantees left and the annual salary is way below average because it was front loaded the player has leverage and holds out because on paper he's underpaid.
Probably not a big issue for terry because he'd be nearing his mid 30's when that bacame an problem and probably have little leverage but i still dont like the idea and hate how nfl contracts work.

I think that would make team success way too dependent on team health. From a fan standpoint, I don't want my team unable to make moves because everyone gets hurt and those contracts are all guaranteed. I understand, from a player standpoint, why they would feel like the contracts NEED to be guaranteed for the same reason.

It would be great if player contracts were guaranteed, but wouldn't count against the cap in case of injury, but that seems hard to implement from a practical standpoint. Is it just for catastrophic injuries that a guy never comes back from? Injuries that make players less effective, so they aren't worth a higher salary? Where are the cutoffs? And what is to prevent teams from just using this as a contract out, whenever they need a cap reset?

 

[burgold]

The scheme I would propose is that if a player is injured and needs to be put on IR for the year that the cap hit is halved with the proviso that they can not be brought back for the playoffs and doctors outside of the team have to sign off that it is a season ending injury.

 

[heisenberg]

The scheme I would propose is that if a player is injured and needs to be put on IR for the year that the cap hit is halved with the proviso that they can not be brought back for the playoffs and doctors outside of the team have to sign off that it is a season ending injury.

Ive always wondered if something like that would work.

I definitely see anselmheifers point though, it wouldn’t be easy to implement.

 

[Anselmheifer]

I definitely see anselmheifers point though, it wouldn’t be easy to implement.

Maybe the contract should be guaranteed if the player retires for injury reasons, and then it disappears off the salary cap. That way the players could decide whether to retire and keep their 20 million, or keep playing. It would at least be an improvement for them.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

I wish the nfl could figure out a way to make contracts ironclad for both the players and the team like other sports do so this doesn’t happen so often.
Front loading a contract sounds like a great plan but when the end gets near and theres no guarantees left and the annual salary is way below average because it was front loaded the player has leverage and holds out because on paper he's underpaid.
Probably not a big issue for terry because he'd be nearing his mid 30's when that bacame an problem and probably have little leverage but i still dont like the idea and hate how nfl contracts work.

They won't figure one out because they don't need to. That's the problem. There is no meaningful way to resist and upend the NFL like in the MLB or NBA to make NFL owners pay up against each other so players all over can make 10s or 100s of millions.

Fan sentiment generally aligns with the owners in everything, because fans generally only want winning. The media is also under soft control as well, so player grievances are skewed towards making the players look selfish, which the general accepts because the players make millions.

I mean with rookie QB contracts, fan sentiment was that Sam Bradford made insane bank. The issue is that a cap was initated, but more established players did not get more, and even they knew it.

Deshaun Watson shows what happens when a power play is made. The Texans likely pulled some strings to uncover his dirt and allow it to go public, and then he was done. Then he completely lost his edge in his own right when he got a second chance.

The RB market underpayment problem also came about from both trends and the few elite RBs before Saquon all having a short shelf life. Zeke, Shaun Alexander, etc all underperformed.