BGO Blind Pig: Dan Snyder Exit Edition

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The guys testify regarding their 24 year Dan Snyder experience and what it means to finally be free from his despicable tyrannical reign. Bring tissues, liquor, and mental health professionals if you know them to this one. Special guest tonight is burgold.



You can follow burgold on Twitter at @AndrewHiller. You can purchase Andrew's latest children's book 'Pitter Patty Finds Another Day' on Amazon or on Barnes & Noble.
 
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Would love to hear the Muppets/Redskins connection story when time allows burgold
 
Enjoyed the experience. Glad to have the opportunity to talk about the end of Snyder and look ahead with you.

Happy to share my Redskins, Muppets story. Would you like me to share it here or hold it for a future podcast?
 
Okay, I can always tell it again. It's really more of a Muppet story than a Redskins story, but here goes.

Back in 2008, Art Monk and Darrell Green were set to be inducted into the Hall of Fame and like many of you I was excited. I wanted to be a part of it. Luckily, I was working at WAMU at the time and so I pitched my boss a story. Even though NPR doesn't do a lot of sports, I suggested that this would be a good thing to cover not only because of its football value but because we could use it as a way to talk about at risk children. It could be a story about making good on several levels. I got the green light and reached out to Darrell Green's foundation.

They expressed excitement about the idea. This was about three months before Canton. I was told Darrell would absolutely want to do this, but they would have to get back to me on when. I agreed. And waited. And waited. And waited. I followed up. They assured me that Darrell was "all in" and that they just had to work out his schedule as it was so busy. They promised to get back to me really soon. So, I waited and waited and waited some more. And then, I followed up. After that, I followed up again. About ten days before Darrell was set to fly off to Ohio, I tried one last time. I let them know that these kinds of pieces were pegged to a date. After the ceremony it would be a bit harder. They said, "Well, if you need an actual date we'll have to pass."

I was stunned. It was the first piece I'd ever failed to deliver. More, we'd been talking for three months with them constantly promising me that it would happen. I sat dejected on the metro and thought about how I would tell the boss. Across from me was a poster for the Fantastic World of Jim Henson" exhibit at the Smithsonian. Grabbing my cellphone, I called and apologized and proposed the switch. The boss told me, "Sure. Henson has a local connection, but if we're going to do this you have to do it right now. The exhibit is already open."

So, I called up the Smithsonian and they said, "Yes, we'd love to, but..." and my heart sped up, "if you're going to do this you have to come first thing in the morning."

I immediately agreed.

It turns out that the reason for the Smithsonian wanting me there so quickly was that Jane Henson (JIm's widow) was in town to review the installation and they wanted me to talk to her. So, that day I interviewed her, her daughter and the next day Dave Goelz (Gonzo.)

Afterwards, I got an email from Dave saying the interview was one of the best he'd ever been part of and he asked me if I'd be willing to work on an homage about Jim with them. So, because I got strung along and eventually ghosted by Darrell Green I wound up having one of my best geeky experiences of my life. I wrote sketches with the Muppets, voiced some skits, and interviewed a whole punch of the puppet builders, performers, and writers. I even got to put my hand inside the drawer of eyeballs and sit on the Dark Crystal throne. It was an amazing six months. Afterwards, they asked me to work on a second documentary. Even better, we still keep in touch.

So, sometimes Redskins disappointment leads you to something great.
 
I had never previously attended a group therapy session but I can now see the benefit. I was surprised that I didn’t feel more celebratory when the news broke. I guess I was, and still am, experiencing some level of PTSD-like emotions. I am comforted by knowing that I wasn’t alone. Perhaps a purge is needed and necessary before a party.

I sincerely wish that Mr. Harris, Mr. Rales, etc could watch the podcast and see just how great the opportunity that lies before them truly is. I have the hope, a deep abiding hope, that what once was can once again be.
 
Aren't you sad you asked after I shared that book lol
 
I had never previously attended a group therapy session but I can now see the benefit. I was surprised that I didn’t feel more celebratory when the news broke. I guess I was, and still am, experiencing some level of PTSD-like emotions. I am comforted by knowing that I wasn’t alone. Perhaps a purge is needed and necessary before a party.

I sincerely wish that Mr. Harris, Mr. Rales, etc could watch the podcast and see just how great the opportunity that lies before them truly is. I have the hope, a deep abiding hope, that what once was can once again be.

Yeah. It's tough. None of us were euphoric. I think part of that is that the deal hasn't been signed and we're too used to things not working out or for things that look good on paper to fall apart in reality. The podcast turned out to be more of an autopsy on the fan base than a referendum on Snyder's history or a celebration of his departure.
 
I'm not sad. That was a cool story.

The more time that passes on DG the more I hear bad stories about him. He's not the boy scout I always thought he was.
 
Okay, I can always tell it again. It's really more of a Muppet story than a Redskins story, but here goes.

Back in 2008, Art Monk and Darrell Green were set to be inducted into the Hall of Fame and like many of you I was excited. I wanted to be a part of it. Luckily, I was working at WAMU at the time and so I pitched my boss a story. Even though NPR doesn't do a lot of sports, I suggested that this would be a good thing to cover not only because of its football value but because we could use it as a way to talk about at risk children. It could be a story about making good on several levels. I got the green light and reached out to Darrell Green's foundation.

They expressed excitement about the idea. This was about three months before Canton. I was told Darrell would absolutely want to do this, but they would have to get back to me on when. I agreed. And waited. And waited. And waited. I followed up. They assured me that Darrell was "all in" and that they just had to work out his schedule as it was so busy. They promised to get back to me really soon. So, I waited and waited and waited some more. And then, I followed up. After that, I followed up again. About ten days before Darrell was set to fly off to Ohio, I tried one last time. I let them know that these kinds of pieces were pegged to a date. After the ceremony it would be a bit harder. They said, "Well, if you need an actual date we'll have to pass."

I was stunned. It was the first piece I'd ever failed to deliver. More, we'd been talking for three months with them constantly promising me that it would happen. I sat dejected on the metro and thought about how I would tell the boss. Across from me was a poster for the Fantastic World of Jim Henson" exhibit at the Smithsonian. Grabbing my cellphone, I called and apologized and proposed the switch. The boss told me, "Sure. Henson has a local connection, but if we're going to do this you have to do it right now. The exhibit is already open."

So, I called up the Smithsonian and they said, "Yes, we'd love to, but..." and my heart sped up, "if you're going to do this you have to come first thing in the morning."

I immediately agreed.

It turns out that the reason for the Smithsonian wanting me there so quickly was that Jane Henson (JIm's widow) was in town to review the installation and they wanted me to talk to her. So, that day I interviewed her, her daughter and the next day Dave Goelz (Gonzo.)

Afterwards, I got an email from Dave saying the interview was one of the best he'd ever been part of and he asked me if I'd be willing to work on an homage about Jim with them. So, because I got strung along and eventually ghosted by Darrell Green I wound up having one of my best geeky experiences of my life. I wrote sketches with the Muppets, voiced some skits, and interviewed a whole punch of the puppet builders, performers, and writers. I even got to put my hand inside the drawer of eyeballs and sit on the Dark Crystal throne. It was an amazing six months. Afterwards, they asked me to work on a second documentary. Even better, we still keep in touch.

So, sometimes Redskins disappointment leads you to something great.

There have been many stories over the years of Darrell’s penchant for being ‘difficult’. His loss.
 
You know, I learned a long time ago, humans react the way the react. It's like not crying at the funeral of a loved one. But then sobbing uncontrollably a month later when a song comes on the radio that reminds you of them. There's no explaining how we feel at any given moment. As someone said last night - it took 24 years of this to get to where we are, going to take a little time to get to a better place too.
 
I'm not sad. That was a cool story.

The more time that passes on DG the more I hear bad stories about him. He's not the boy scout I always thought he was.

He doesn't have a good rep when cameras aren't rolling, that's for sure. Could've just been an assistant screwing it up in this case, but pretty on par with some other stories I've heard about him.
 
Yeah. It's tough. None of us were euphoric. I think part of that is that the deal hasn't been signed and we're too used to things not working out or for things that look good on paper to fall apart in reality. The podcast turned out to be more of an autopsy on the fan base than a referendum on Snyder's history or a celebration of his departure.

Yeah. I’ll readily admit that I still have a Neo-like feeling that Dan Snyder still has some Dan Snyder bullets in reserve.
 
Almost positive there will be one more surprise or headache. Maybe it will be something like Dan not paying his bills and all the seat at Fed Ex Field will be removed by debt collectors or maybe he’ll leak something really awful about a player or coach to try to stoke hate.
 
He doesn't have a good rep when cameras aren't rolling, that's for sure. Could've just been an assistant screwing it up in this case, but pretty on par with some other stories I've heard about him.
Yeah. At this point, I’m glad it worked out the way it did. It would have been fun to speak to DG and celebrate the moment, but I wouldn’t trade that for sitting inthe writer’s room trading jokes with Jim Lewis, Dave, and the rest.
 
In my effort to educate you guys on classic horror....

Here's the film I was referencing Bob, where karma or God takes things into his own hands in the end. Anyone interested, 'The Bad Seed' is playing this month on TCM.

 
This was a great podcast and I am glad you guys put this out there and that I was able to listen.

The same gamut of emotions expressed here run through me also. Thinking about what Snyder has done to the team I grew up loving is both infuriating and sad at the same time.
Right now, there's a sense of relief that we can finally see a growing glimmer of daylight but at the same time,trepidation of the unknown/what's yet to come.
It's an uneasy feeling sitting on that type of fence and the kid that still lives within me has his fingers crossed , eyes shut and repeating " Please be good, please be good" at the thought of the new ownership group.

Om's point about speaking of Dan until he's no longer mentioned is on point but I don't know that I can ever forgive him for losing the Redskins name and then putting on the dog and pony show that led some fans into thinking they'd have input on the new name. Anyone reasonable, that knew Snyder knew that was a hoax from the start.
I'll be totally honest here.......you'll never see me don Commies gear. As long as there's Redskins gear floating around on the internet, that's what I'll have.
Hell, everyone here local still calls the team:Redskins. It's also what a lot of NFL people still call them when their guard is let down too.

It's going to take a long time to get feelings/emotions sorted out and what's pulled me back from the brink more than once is you folks on this board.

Never met a one of ya, but feel like I know all of ya from our times here.

You all are very much appreciated.

HTTR
 

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