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Bostic not likely to receive suspension?

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I’m confused.

This was a cheap shot. Everyone in the media is talking about it. They are blaming Dallas players for not physically fighting on the field after that hit.

So if everyone is saying this was the worst cheap shot of the year thus far, how is he not suspended?
Was it not a cheap shot and is everyone wrong?
 
I think the knee jerk reaction was that it was a cheap shot

I think Bostic needs to know better

I also think it was a bang bang play in the act of football

I think the ejection and a fine is warranted

I don't think there was any malicious intent, or attempt to injure.

If you go look at it frame by frame, it's not helmet to helmet. Dalton's facemask actually makes contact with Bostic's shoulder. Bostic should not have completed the hit. Dalton is not a threat to deke a slide, then be physically able to continue. Dalton was going down, Bostic is a veteran and he needs to know better than to finish that play that way. Like I said, I don't think his intent was anything other than finishing the play. I don't think he was trying to complete a dirty play, but it was absolutely unnecessary. Suspensions IMHO need to be reserved for the likes of Albert Haynesworth stepping on the head of a down lineman, or the Dallas player who grabbed Chris Carson's leg and did a gator roll after Carson was on the ground, resulting in a sprained knee (he was not suspended either btw).
 
I disagree with that being ‘a bang bang hit’. He was coming towards Dalton and clearly saw him start to slide. Instead of slowing up, he lowered his head and hit him as hard as he could.

To me, whether it was absolute helmet to helmet hit doesn’t even matter. Dalton gave himself up and as soon as he starts that slide, by rule (and by expected conduct) you cannot engage him.

As for why no suspension, I think Rivera probably helped avoid that by immediately condemning the hit and publicly apologizing to Falton and the Cowboys. He deserved a couple game suspension imho but that’s likely why he got off so easy.
 
I disagree with that being ‘a bang bang hit’. He was coming towards Dalton and clearly saw him start to slide. Instead of slowing up, he lowered his head and hit him as hard as he could.

To me, whether it was absolute helmet to helmet hit doesn’t even matter. Dalton gave himself up and as soon as he starts that slide, by rule (and by expected conduct) you cannot engage him.

As for why no suspension, I think Rivera probably helped avoid that by immediately condemning the hit and publicly apologizing to Falton and the Cowboys. He deserved a couple game suspension imho but that’s likely why he got off so easy.


I wasn't justifying it... i only pointed out the lack of helmet to helmet as a possible reason why not suspended. I agree, you cannot engage him. I said so much in my response. It was an unnecessary hit and the ejection and fine are warranted.

By bang bang, it's a player going full speed toward another player and the sightline changes. I even pointed out that I didn't feel Dalton was a threat to fake a slide and continue, so the second he begins to give himself up, you have to disengage. There's not really any threat of him continuing to run at that point, so 'completing' the tackle is unnecessary. If it's Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, or Patrick Mahomes, they are a little more suited physically to give you a head fake like a slide, but continue running. You can't check up on them as quickly because they can get right past you. Dalton is not that threat.
 
For me, bang bang implies it couldn’t be avoided because bodies are already in motion. In this case I think it was 100% avoidable. I’m not attacking your viewpoint ST - I’m arguing against the decision not to suspend him.
 
I don’t pretend to know how the NFL levy’s fines and suspensions. If I remember, the guy that brutally took out Jordan Reid got neither an ejection or suspension. Likewise earlier this year, the cowboys player who intentionally twisted an opponents leg in an attempt to injure and injured the player did not get suspended. I use those as examples just because I don’t think there is any rhyme or reason how they give out suspensions. So any punishment they give is guaranteed to make some mad because it’s never consistent.

The problem I have with this hit is that it’s completely avoidable. I get it. Defensive players are taught to hit the QB and they see a chance to hit him, they will. But there was absolutely no reason to hit him there. He could have avoided him altogether. The ejection was warranted and a fine will be as well. If he is suspended, so be it. Unless it’s an excessive suspension, I’m not going to get worked up about it. He has to avoid that hit. It doesn’t matter that it wasn’t helmet to helmet. He went shoulder to head of a sliding QB. He cannot do that.
 
not a dirty player
an unfortunate decision to go for a hit

no suspension...on to the bye week!
 
Bostic didn’t get suspended because he has a clean rep in the league and has no precedent with hits like this.
 
Bostic didn’t get suspended because he has a clean rep in the league and has no precedent with hits like this.

Well he's got one now :) If I were him, I'd watch my back the next Dallas game.
 
one hit gives him a bad rep?

F Dallass! We should punch them in their mouths for even thinking of retaliating!
 
I don't think the Dallas players give two patoots, that team looks like it's quit on the season already, stupid hit, fine and ejection I get, suspension, when's the last time the NFL handed down a suspension to anyone other than Vontaze Burfict for a hit?
 
Setting aside the Bostic hit, that’s the problem with the NFL policy. You will never be able to eliminate most of the egregious head shots without taking players off the field being part of the punishment. The fines and penalties are not enough of a disincentive. It’s going to take someone dying or having irreversible damage that ends their career before the NFL takes it to the level that conveys the seriousness of avoiding brain injuries.

I do get that imposing suspensions ultimately will result in some overreactions and even some players will miss time because of borderline infractions (shoulder to head type of shots or ‘bang bang’ plays where there just wasn’t enough time to avert a blow).But that is far preferable to players incurring brain injuries that may impact them for the rest of their lives. I also think the idea that you can assess ‘intent’ is nearly impossible. It has to come down to whether or not the contact to the head was avoidable or not.
 

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