2026 53-Man Roster Thread

I kind of doubt our 4th string PS QB is running the scout team. Most teams with an established QB give every single rep to the starter. Peyton Manning was famous for demanding this and it’s become more common. In-season weekly practices aren’t like training camp, there aren’t really extra reps to go around, backups don’t practice separately together, etc. Mariota likely doesn’t even receive that many live OR walkthrough reps each week during the season in terms of working through our gameplan, unless Daniels is banged up and they’re prepping Mariota to play. Mariota is likely taking mostly mental reps and going through everything with Jayden, while Jayden takes the actual reps.

Usually the 3rd string QB (when there is one) would run the scout team, unless the scout team specifically needs a fast running QB to gameplan against in which case sometimes a non-QB player will simulate that for the D on teams that need it.

So that’s AK it seems.

And then Hartman will just be watching most of the time (in terms of real 11-on-11 reps, throwing on the side and in drills. That’s why it’s really hard to “develop” guys on the field during the season, almost all their work has to be on their own and in the meeting rooms. All live reps go to the top 2 guys, with the vast VAST majority of them going to the starter to lock in the gameplan and take advantage of the previously short time they have. Again, Peyton was famous for never giving his backups even a random snap during the season, he wanted every single look, every single rep with his guys even in walkthroughs because they’re so rare overall

In short, practice prepping for a game is way different than training camp and depth guys hardly ever get live snaps during the season, and even fewer gameplan walkthrough reps
 
Hartman on PS. :unsure:

I asked several people and got a consensus.

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I'd rather have PS personnel that can actually develop into game day contributors. I leave coaching for the staff and for the vets players
I guess the difference is I just don't care because I really don't think there is much liklihood a PS QB is going to develop into anything other than an emergency starter. The counter point is we know Hartman can't develop. If we had somebody who could, would that be better? I guess so.

Though, you need the right type of person in that role also, who's basically willing to do all the crap jobs and be happy about it. And know they probably aren't even going to get a shot to compete for the 3rd string let alone backup job.
 
I kind of doubt our 4th string PS QB is running the scout team. Most teams with an established QB give every single rep to the starter. Peyton Manning was famous for demanding this and it’s become more common. In-season weekly practices aren’t like training camp, there aren’t really extra reps to go around, backups don’t practice separately together, etc. Mariota likely doesn’t even receive that many live OR walkthrough reps each week during the season in terms of working through our gameplan, unless Daniels is banged up and they’re prepping Mariota to play. Mariota is likely taking mostly mental reps and going through everything with Jayden, while Jayden takes the actual reps.

Usually the 3rd string QB (when there is one) would run the scout team, unless the scout team specifically needs a fast running QB to gameplan against in which case sometimes a non-QB player will simulate that for the D on teams that need it.

So that’s AK it seems.

And then Hartman will just be watching most of the time (in terms of real 11-on-11 reps, throwing on the side and in drills. That’s why it’s really hard to “develop” guys on the field during the season, almost all their work has to be on their own and in the meeting rooms. All live reps go to the top 2 guys, with the vast VAST majority of them going to the starter to lock in the gameplan and take advantage of the previously short time they have. Again, Peyton was famous for never giving his backups even a random snap during the season, he wanted every single look, every single rep with his guys even in walkthroughs because they’re so rare overall

In short, practice prepping for a game is way different than training camp and depth guys hardly ever get live snaps during the season, and even fewer gameplan walkthrough reps
Agree, and I'll fully admit that I could be making it up, but I swear I remember Quinn talking about Hartman running the scout team last year. Which is why I mentioned it.

However, it's possible he was doing that because he was the third string at that time?
 
I guess the difference is I just don't care because I really don't think there is much liklihood a PS QB is going to develop into anything other than an emergency starter. The counter point is we know Hartman can't develop. If we had somebody who could, would that be better? I guess so.

Though, you need the right type of person in that role also, who's basically willing to do all the crap jobs and be happy about it. And know they probably aren't even going to get a shot to compete for the 3rd string let alone backup job.
Well, you covered both sides with your response so you can't really be wrong lol.
 
I'm looking at practice, not game day.. they made it obvious that the street walkers on Sunday were more valuable, but that kind of is the bigger point right? He is who he is, and Mon - Fri you want less performance, more scheme

I think this is the best explanation. A 4th string PS QB is not developing into anything... if the stars align, maybe he's a backup for a bit, but even that is highly unlikely. The guy is on the team for how he helps your team practice and develop. If he can do that effectively, they are getting their money's worth...
 
I think this is the best explanation. A 4th string PS QB is not developing into anything... if the stars align, maybe he's a backup for a bit, but even that is highly unlikely. The guy is on the team for how he helps your team practice and develop. If he can do that effectively, they are getting their money's worth...
So he is a coach!?!
 
You guys are just passionate overreacting fans about Hartman. If you could see behind closed doors what he has going on like AP and DQ you’d change your minds!!!
 
Well, you covered both sides with your response so you can't really be wrong lol.
I wasn’t really trying to be right.

I just really don’t care. Right guy, wrong guy, as long as he never plays in a real game I just don’t care.
 

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