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The Starter
No, you're not. I like Downs over Delane.I hope Downs is still in play for us. I seem to be one of the few left who prefer him to Delane.
No, you're not. I like Downs over Delane.I hope Downs is still in play for us. I seem to be one of the few left who prefer him to Delane.
But, but, but…he didn’t run or do the other testing that everyone else did. So he is now being characterized as not a good athlete and slower than my grandmother. If only there were other ways to see his abilities as a football player exhibited. 🤷🏻♂️I hope Downs is still in play for us. I seem to be one of the few left who prefer him to Delane.
Of those that are there or guessing who will be available when we pick...Love, first, Styles, second and Downs, third.
I put Lance in the bucket of I just don't know. I don't mind though especially in the third on betting on freak athletes with upside and he's certainly that. But I don't like betting on someone like that as the ready solution.
But I agree with your overall point, not so much center on my end. But there are potentially players who can start who might fall there, with decent floors: Keionte Scott, Romello Height, Kyle Louis, Trotter, Sam Roush, Oscar Delp.
If its WR, I'd rather go high floor, dudes that can likely make a difference instantly with high floors over boom-busts projects: Antonio Williams, Sarratt, Bernard.
I don't mind them taking a center that early but to me its a non premium position and if they internally believe as some beat guys have said Allegreti if anything will be an improvement over Biadaz, I am not that worried. They could be wrong but until it fails I'll trust it.
Mrh. We already played them with Saquan who most had rated higher. Barkley was good but didn't just own things in NY. I see the same for Love if he's thereI’m getting to the point where I don’t care anymore who we draft, as long as the Giants don’t take Love. Zero interest in defending against him the next 5+ years.
I’m kind of with you here. Two “flip side of the argument” points I’d make:Even if Delane is technically a better player, I really think that AP is choosing to personally ratchet up the odds that Quinn & Co. get fired if he passes on Tate for any DB. (and if he’s lucky—meaning still employed—it’ll be him who has to fire them). That’s how scary the current offensive weapon situation is and how heavily weighted setting up the QB for success should be. And how meaningfully it could crush our season if they gamble and lose again in that regard. And that would be the majority of Daniels’ rookie contract gone, just like that, before we’ve built a damn thing.
It’s so glaring in fact that with the precarious situation they’re in, I find myself wondering if they’re finally weaponizing Keim’s reliability to downplay our interest in Tate in the final week before the draft, to help avoid a team feeling they must jump us for the top WR prospect. The Browns would love to skip back a bit from 6 and it’s the perfect spot to fuck us over if we’re transparent in our intentions.
It’s interesting because looking at last year’s receiving group, aside from improving the depth, I sort of think there are 2 facets that needed to be added to our receiving room. Someone that can get open quickly - an ‘easy’ button for Daniels - and a guy that can stretch the field to take advantage of PA, take pressure off Terry, and add more explosives.I put Lance in the bucket of I just don't know. I don't mind though especially in the third on betting on freak athletes with upside and he's certainly that. But I don't like betting on someone like that as the ready solution.
But I agree with your overall point, not so much center on my end. But there are potentially players who can start who might fall there, with decent floors: Keionte Scott, Romello Height, Kyle Louis, Trotter, Sam Roush, Oscar Delp.
If its WR, I'd rather go high floor, dudes that can likely make a difference instantly with high floors over boom-busts projects: Antonio Williams, Sarratt, Bernard.
I don't mind them taking a center that early but to me its a non premium position and if they internally believe as some beat guys have said Allegreti if anything will be an improvement over Biadaz, I am not that worried. They could be wrong but until it fails I'll trust it.
I'm honestly not overly concerned. I still think that Aiyuk is coming, probably by early June and we still have some solid other options. I also still think that Jennings is in play for maybe close to the amount that he wants but only for one year. We still have enough cap space for that, I thinkEven if Delane is technically a better player, I really think that AP is choosing to personally ratchet up the odds that Quinn & Co. get fired if he passes on Tate for any DB. (and if he’s lucky—meaning still employed—it’ll be him who has to fire them). That’s how scary the current offensive weapon situation is and how heavily weighted setting up the QB for success should be. And how meaningfully it could crush our season if they gamble and lose again in that regard. And that would be the majority of Daniels’ rookie contract gone, just like that, before we’ve built a damn thing.
It’s so glaring in fact that with the precarious situation they’re in, I find myself wondering if they’re finally weaponizing Keim’s reliability to downplay our interest in Tate in the final week before the draft, to help avoid a team feeling they must jump us for the top WR prospect. The Browns would love to skip back a bit from 6 and it’s the perfect spot to fuck us over if we’re transparent in our intentions.

Counting on Aiyuk is a tough choice. He may not come free until August.I just don't know what we can expect out of Aiyuk. He's basically been away from live action for two years. I'm sure he's healtir hy, but is he the same player and can he get it back? A number of players struggle to refind their form after a long layoff.
I'm honestly not overly concerned. I still think that Aiyuk is coming, probably by early June and we still have some solid other options. I also still think that Jennings is in play for maybe close to the amount that he wants but only for one year. We still have enough cap space for that, I think
It’s interesting because looking at last year’s receiving group, aside from improving the depth, I sort of think there are 2 facets that needed to be added to our receiving room. Someone that can get open quickly - an ‘easy’ button for Daniels - and a guy that can stretch the field to take advantage of PA, take pressure off Terry, and add more explosives.
So while I’m with you on the high floor guys, it seems to me that the first facet can potentially be addressed via some combo of the guys already on the roster, a free agent (Allen, Jennings, Diggs, Aiyuk, or Deebo) and scheme. A deep threat, on the other hand, seems like it would almost have to come via the draft, even if (many of?) the options there have lower floors than the guys you mentioned.
Again, not my opinion, just that I could see them potentially thinking along these lines.
I don't think that we are in on him either for what he wants but I think that if we don't draft anyone then he's in play strictly for a one year dealI thought Keim previously said Commanders were not in on Jennings, 'going in a different direction.'
That would go Downs, Tate, then Delane.I think that many are resolved that Love and Styles will be gone. Who are your next 3?
I'm actually softening on Lance. I love the potential there, but I don't know if I want to invest in that right now, when I think there could be a day 1 starter in the 3rd round at a different position. At a minimum, a possible game 8 starter at OG / C.
I don't think that we are in on him either for what he wants but I think that if we don't draft anyone then he's in play strictly for a one year deal
This is where I am. I am super confident we can get a day 1 starting nickel/safety at 71 if we stick and pick.
I just don't know what we can expect out of Aiyuk. He's basically been away from live action for two years. I'm sure he's healtir hy, but is he the same player and can he get it back? A number of players struggle to refind their form after a long layoff.