If Tate doesn't reach 7, they don't go WR. By moving down from 71 to the mid 2nd they'd be sitting in a good place for a legit WR2.Maybe, but how much value would Lane really add to 71? Would he turn it into a low second? A higher third? Is that worth it?
If they hold this value then the team, lacking WRs, should just keep them. Luke is entering his 3rd season, it's put up or shut up time and I feel I know where it will go. I'm much more confident in Layne but that's still not a lot of confidence that he will ever be more than a role player.Or like said, included in a package, perhaps with pick 71 to move up to get a legit WR2 player or someone else they have their heart set on. There are a number of teams that would appreciate a very good NFL proven returner who can also be a WR4 good at spreading the field and being involved in gadget plays.
There's a part of me that wants
1 Bailey or Love
3 Center or safety
I just wonder a really good center or safety prospect will be available and worry that there will only be okay wide receiver prospects.
Ja'Kobi Lane?Really deep WR class, be surprised if there isn't a good Wr at 71.
Add that thought with the idea that WR by a mile is the more premium position and add that to by a mile this is the spot Peters has struggled mightly with IMO -- its borderline a no brainer.
Depending on what they do at 7 -- Peters left huge holes at WR and CB and almost begs them to take one at that spot.
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I hate to say this about a round 2/3 talent because it feels very over the top… but I think Ted Hurst might be a star. He’s such a smooth athlete.
Watched Steve Smith’s take on him (and I already liked him) and he brought up a comp that blew my mind because I can see it…
Faster Larry Fitz. And… yeah. He does look like a faster Fitz stylistically.
Wow, that may bring a little more interest towards Delane and McCoy for CB hungry teamsAvieon Terrell supposedly hurt his hamstring in a private Pro Day while running in the 4.6's. He didn't test at the Combine, or at Clemson Pro Day, and now was hurt again in his private Pro Day. I think he's another guy falling down the draft boards that will also likely not be on our own board due to injury risk.
His actual tape is wildly inconsistent.
Really deep WR class, be surprised if there isn't a good Wr at 71.
Add that thought with the idea that WR by a mile is the more premium position and add that to by a mile this is the spot Peters has struggled mightly with IMO -- its borderline a no brainer.
Depending on what they do at 7 -- Peters left huge holes at WR and CB and almost begs them to take one at that spot.
Recent hit rate on third round receivers isn’t great
Greg Cosell loves Hurst also.
With the lack of high end talent in this draft, it seems like there is too much buzz for Hurst to drop. I bet he goes in the 2nd round.
And, he’s a legit 6’4” with almost 33” arms and almost 10” hands and ran a 4.42 with an 11’3” broad jump.
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I got three WRs I like in that range -- Sarratt, Antonio Williams, Bernard -- but Bernard is feeling more and more like a pipe dream in that range.
I am not really fixated on trends. But playing along I I can see a lot of WR busts in this group, and I've pointed some of them out. So many one dimensional and or raw prospects.
In short, at WR if I am picking in the third round-4th round, I am going with higher floor WRs versus whatever people deem to be physical freaks -- yes to the Jamison Crowder types no to the Gandy-Golden types.
I think the issue is that the floor, by the time you get to the third, just isn’t high enough. I think last year’s WR class compares to this one in depth.
6 guys got taken in the 3rd last year. None of them did anything of note as receivers during the season. They were Kyle Williams, Isaac Teslaa, Pat Bryant, Jaylin Noel, Savvion Williams and Tai Felton.
Comp em to the guys you are targeting at 71.
I think this class is deepr, but you are still looking at about the same quality in the third round. Last year 7 WRs went into the first two rounds. I am guessing 10 or 11 do this year, but it creates a situation where even though this class is a bit deeper, the quality in the third round is going to be about the same. For what its worth 4 out of 6 of those guys had 200+ yards so those four guys do project as like #3 receivers either this year or next year. But by the third round you are more looking at a guy who will most likely be a #3 by year 2 or 3 and who is probably more of a #4 in year 1. You are a bit lucky of you get a #2.
I am still hoping for development from Luke and Jaylin. I think posters can get a bit impatient.
Totally agree, more of a hope they can give us something like a WR4ish more than likely for year one.I agree regarding your point that more guys will get taken in the 1st and 2nd this year vs last year. Heck, I’d be surprised if at least 5 don’t go in the 1st.
I think it’s unrealistic than anyone we take in the 3rd is going to provide us with significantly more production this season.
I think the issue is that the floor, by the time you get to the third, just isn’t high enough. I think last year’s WR class compares to this one in depth.
6 guys got taken in the 3rd last year. None of them did anything of note as receivers during the season. They were Kyle Williams, Isaac Teslaa, Pat Bryant, Jaylin Noel, Savvion Williams and Tai Felton.
Comp em to the guys you are targeting at 71.
I hear you. I just don't care. I look at every WR in a vaccum. A lot of 3rd round WRs aren't given instant opportunity, I am guessing that's part of it. Also a lot of third round WRs have much boom-bust to them. I'd bet most of the third round WRs in this draft bust, too. But there are two that I like who I don't think will bust: Elijah Sarratt and Antonio Williams. I'd put Bernard in this group but its looking clear he's not making it to the third