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Maybe we should have kept ForbesDoes delane have a very unique skill im unfamiliar with?
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Maybe we should have kept ForbesDoes delane have a very unique skill im unfamiliar with?
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Emmanuel FordMaybe we should have kept Forbes
Iām not moved by it because most of the guys in that earlier chart I posted are boundary receivers. And the most successful one despite the poor figure, was BTJ who can indeed run by guys at pro level.
Maybe we should have kept Forbes
Iām starting to think that Delane might go before us. Iād love it if that pushed Love to us. Are the giants really better off taking a LB, safety, RB, or WR2 over a shit down corner? They definitely have needs I. The secondary. I could also see Delane going to Cleveland, which wouldnāt help us as much.
I just went through that list. 17 Wrs. Five of them are X boundary WRs. The other twelve are Z or Y.
Of the 5 boundary WRs, 4 of them are run by you athletes. One of those X Wrs is really good, Brian Thomas.
Denzel Boston isn't a run by you guy as to beating man. He uses releases and physicality and yes that translates to the NFL.
But while I appreciate all the data you keep spitting out -- i don't believe there is a one specific data set that predicts WR success. You got to factor context and watching the actual player. If it was just a simple numbers game, what's the point of having scouts, just plug in name that PFF number and just ride with it.
My point about PFF is even they don't buy running purely with numbers in their evaluations. If you go purely by PFF scores, PFF's owns rankings don't match up to neatly to their rankings so why should we weigh their data more heavily than they do?
Ideally you want 20 and elite but 22 isn't bad, plus I think with NIL and the transfer portal draft picks are going to keep getting older.An interesting thing I learned today about Delane is he will turn 23 in December. Call it his age 22 season but man, thatās a demerit for me, especially in the top 10. Itās not just that heās lost a year or two in the pros, but also have to wonder how much it contributed to his collegiate dominance.
Gotcha, didnāt realize you were splitting X and Z. Your earlier post just mentioned slot.
To be clear, I agree with you about there being no specific data set and context matters. No doubt. Certainly donāt mean to represent otherwise. Iām just saying, odds of a hit are reduced when you donāt hit certain benchmarks. These data indicate success against zone correlates more to nfl success than versus man. And that below certain thresholds against zone, there havenāt been many success stories. Does that mean Boston canāt succeed? Of course not, but itās asking him to beat longer odds.
Same as it goes to your point about PFF. I weigh it more heavily because heād be an outlier and outliers have by nature longer odds. And also their grades and rankings are kinda meh to me. Especially the rankings.
Ideally you want 20 and elite but 22 isn't bad, plus I think with NIL and the transfer portal draft picks are going to keep getting older.
Both bailey and Mendoza are older than he is.
Jayden was his exact age almost when we drafted him.
Now if he was 24 or 25 absolutely but 22 is pretty normal.
Seems like no one checks all the boxes that will be available at 7, which is a shame.
Well it is true, a lot of the good WR's will be gone before the 3rd round. I should however have said most of the good WR's that can contribute right away will be gone before round 3.I could not disagree more.
Well it is true, a lot of the good WR's will be gone before the 3rd round. I should however have said most of the good WR's that can contribute right away will be gone before round 3.
I said that because in the current state we are in we need a player that contributes right away. Yeah I know, they will sign Aiyuk, or Jennings or someone....but until/unless that occurs, this is our state. We can't wait on a guy for half a season or more like Lane or Luke. And there is a chance a dude like Sarratt for instance is gone
Absolutely, but there are a number of 1stt and 2nd rounders who appear ready to at least contribute heavy early in not start right awayI agree that WR in the 3rd may not make sense, based on needing immediate production. I think it also may not make sense from a roster standpoint. We are already trying to develop Jaylin and Luke. I donāt think you can ready carry 3 developmental WRās on an active roster. That would be half of the receiving core.
Absolutely, but there are a number of 1stt and 2nd rounders who appear ready to at least contribute heavy early in not start right away