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This one came out of nowhere. Interesting. It fits Blough's system from what we've read or heard about it.
Also to add to your post from Fowler:
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I am with you on Thieneman and have posted numerous times about him. He and Cross would make a nice S combo.Dillon Thieneman
Oregon · S · Junior
Thieneman was expected to excel at the combine and he did not disappoint. He started with a 41-inch vertical and 10-5 broad jump. Then he ran a 4.35 40 (1.52 10-yard split) at 6-0 1/8, 201 pounds. Thieneman changed directions quickly for a player with his build during drills and brought in passes, even when they were thrown outside his frame. A productive player at Purdue and Oregon, he seems like a lock for the first round after his display of athleticism
I love that enthusiasm.Honestly at this point, I think the WR position is severely underrated on this board. All of the big 3 have pro bowl potential IMO

Honestly at this point, I think the WR position is severely underrated on this board. All of the big 3 have pro bowl potential IMO
Spent a bit of time looking at the prospects. Setting aside any pre determined views on who’s going where, I think there are only 2 players I’d be fully committed to taking at #7, and that would be either Bailey or Love, in that order.
After that, my third option is to trade out. As for trading back, no further than 16 with NYJ, so a swap of #7 for #16 and #33 works.
However, that might just be too far back…so open minded to then going #16 and #71 to move back up, safe in knowledge #33 is a valuable pick to sit on.
And yes, that’s a quick take from a Saturday night with my good friends google and beer.
I say the 3 of you need to spend more evenings together. We will all benefit from reading the reports from the ravesAnd yes, that’s a quick take from a Saturday night with my good friends google and beer.

This is pretty close to what I’ve been saying throughout this process. One of the best breakdowns I’ve seen on Bain.This is DaftonDraft's scouting report of Rueben Bain...
Rueben Bain had one of the most productive seasons of anyone in the 2026 draft class and was a major reason Miami made its run to the National Championship game. In 2025 he piled up 15.5 tackles for loss, 9.5 sacks, and an absurd 83 pressures, which earned him First-Team All-American honors and ACC Defensive Player of the Year. Physically he comes in at 6’2”, 263 pounds with a dense lower half and strong build, but the measurement everyone is talking about is his arm length, which came in under 31 inches. That puts him in extreme outlier territory for edge rushers, literally around the first percentile historically, and it’s the main reason his projection to the NFL has become such a debate.
On tape Bain wins with power and timing more than pure athletic flash. His first step is excellent and he consistently times the snap well, allowing him to get into tackles quickly. Once he makes contact he has a devastating speed-to-power conversion and routinely puts offensive tackles on skates when he drives through their chest. His hands are heavy and violent and when he lands a punch it sends real shock through the blocker. Despite the short arms he is extremely good at getting into the frame of the man across from him and condensing space so tackles can’t use their length advantage. One of his best counters is a nasty hump move where he gets tight to the blocker and throws his outside arm through the inside breastplate to toss them aside. Bain is also surprisingly effective bending the corner for a player with such a thick lower body; he can reduce his surface area and dip under blocks to get around the edge. Against the run he plays with excellent pad level and a naturally low center of gravity that makes him extremely hard to move. Even when he kicks inside he holds the point well, showing a strong anchor and the ability to set the edge. When technique fails he can simply turn into a bull in a china shop and power through blockers with brute force and a noticeable mean streak.
The limitations show up in the athletic profile. Bain’s long speed in pursuit is just average and he is not going to be chasing down ball carriers across the field. His short-area quickness is also more middle of the road than elite, which means he doesn’t always cross a tackle’s face or redirect instantly. His ankles are somewhat tight and that can limit how far he can extend outside his frame when trying to win around the edge. But the biggest concern is still the arm length. At under 31 inches it’s not just short, it’s historically short for the position, which means the margin for error against long NFL tackles will be smaller.
The interesting part of Bain’s projection is how aware he seems to be of his own physical makeup. He doesn’t try to win with moves that require long levers like a traditional long-arm rush. Instead he consistently attacks the chest of the blocker, trying to take away their length advantage by closing space and fighting inside their frame. He hides his body well when club-ripping around the edge and often tries to run directly through the face of blockers rather than taking a wide track. There is also real positional versatility in his profile because he can condense down to five-technique or even three-technique in certain fronts, where arm length becomes less of an issue and his power and leverage become bigger advantages. When he’s inside and firing directly through a guard or tackle’s chest, his short arms matter a lot less and his ability to anchor against the run becomes a real asset.
So the entire evaluation basically comes down to how teams weigh the arm length against the production and play style. The historical data says edge rushers with arms this short almost never become high-level NFL players. But Bain’s tape shows a player who understands his body, plays within it, and wins with power, timing, leverage, and heavy hands. If he lands with a defensive line coach willing to move him around and let him rush from condensed alignments as well as the edge, there’s a path for him to overcome the outlier measurement and still be a very productive NFL pass rusher.
Agreed. Realising maximum value from that #7 pick should absolutely have trade back scenarios high on the list of desirable outcomes.This is a pretty good group. Problem is, we don’t have a 2nd rounder. I’d be willing to bet if we did there would be a ton of people talking about receiver much more glowingly.
Do you trade down regardless of who is available?Agreed. Realising maximum value from that #7 pick should absolutely have trade back scenarios high on the list of desirable outcomes.
No, Bailey or Love would keep me at #7, for now anyway.Do you trade down regardless of who is available?
i'm with you on Love, the drop between him and the next RB is massive.No, Bailey or Love would keep me at #7, for now anyway.

Bain doesn't have the height tip balls like the typical edge rusher. He doesn't have the speed to chase down backs in the open field. Doesn't have length so might struggle with long armed tackles with good footwork.
But.
He understands his limitations and has a plan to work through it and has done so in college. Will the same thing translate with the bigger talent in the NFL?
OK, cool.
If they were picking in the 20-30 range -- color me intrigued.
But at 7, I am not looking for a player who needs to overcome multiple limitations.
Having said that if this team takes him. I am fine with it. It would mean they weighed all those variables and are cool with taking that chance.