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I'll give my second $0.02 on the matter and be done with it.

I was a long time lurker in the other forum for many years. In 2007, I decided to join. Being heavily involved in a certain NASCAR forum for many years took a lot of my extra time, but when that activity subsided, I felt it was time for me to become an active member.

Like you, I watched it change and have explosive growth. I'm not fully sold on the idea that some mods are tolerant of one philosophy over another. I will admit that some members can "get away" with behavior that causes some to be banned for whatever length of time. I'm as conservative as anyone (here or there), but have never been banned or even threatened with the dreaded "hammer". It's about keeping your cool and conforming to the rules - even if the rules have a certain bent for some individuals. You live by them or you die by them.

I have made a conscience decision to abstain from all discussions in the general forum and post only on the football side. The reason for doing so has nothing to do with any mod or any particular member. It has everything to do with the standards that I have set for myself. In some ways, I was beginning to compromise those standards and decided it was time to make this change. That is why we have the NASCAR game over here now. Too, it is why I am rather active at BGO and feel honored (and humbled) to have membership at such a place.

As for the political stuff, let's keep the enthusiasm and be active in our discussions. I say that we should leave out the name calling, pointing fingers at certain people, bragging too much, etc.

I also want to say that we probably don't need a big discussion about how "evil" or "wrong" one place can be and how the other is a "haven". Let's just enjoy what we have and be happy with it.

Again, my $0.02 and another $0.02. :)
 
I'll give my second $0.02 on the matter and be done with it.

I was a long time lurker in the other forum for many years. In 2007, I decided to join. Being heavily involved in a certain NASCAR forum for many years took a lot of my extra time, but when that activity subsided, I felt it was time for me to become an active member.

Like you, I watched it change and have explosive growth. I'm not fully sold on the idea that some mods are tolerant of one philosophy over another. I will admit that some members can "get away" with behavior that causes some to be banned for whatever length of time. I'm as conservative as anyone (here or there), but have never been banned or even threatened with the dreaded "hammer". It's about keeping your cool and conforming to the rules - even if the rules have a certain bent for some individuals. You live by them or you die by them.

I have made a conscience decision to abstain from all discussions in the general forum and post only on the football side. The reason for doing so has nothing to do with any mod or any particular member. It has everything to do with the standards that I have set for myself. In some ways, I was beginning to compromise those standards and decided it was time to make this change. That is why we have the NASCAR game over here now. Too, it is why I am rather active at BGO and feel honored (and humbled) to have membership at such a place.

As for the political stuff, let's keep the enthusiasm and be active in our discussions. I say that we should leave out the name calling, pointing fingers at certain people, bragging too much, etc.

I also want to say that we probably don't need a big discussion about how "evil" or "wrong" one place can be and how the other is a "haven". Let's just enjoy what we have and be happy with it.

Again, my $0.02 and another $0.02. :)


1) You're right

2) It's pretty pacific here.....it has gotten heated from time to time and feelings have been scorched....but it seems to always find its way back to normalcy

3) I know for a fact that behind the scenes politics has played a role from time to time in how the place in question has addressed its membership: that ideas and not just language influenced outcomes
 
3) I know for a fact that behind the scenes politics has played a role from time to time in how the place in question has addressed its membership: that ideas and not just language influenced outcomes

It ebbs and flows, but they walk the fine line pretty well over there. Having seen it from the other side I can tell you it's not as easy as it looks, and some of you guys (you know who you are :) ) make it decidedly less easy.

But I'm a crazy liberal so what do I know. :D
 
It ebbs and flows, but they walk the fine line pretty well over there. Having seen it from the other side I can tell you it's not as easy as it looks, and some of you guys (you know who you are :) ) make it decidedly less easy.

But I'm a crazy liberal so what do I know. :D

I thought you were a communist? Damn, I can never keep that straight;)
 
It ebbs and flows, but they walk the fine line pretty well over there. Having seen it from the other side I can tell you it's not as easy as it looks, and some of you guys (you know who you are :) ) make it decidedly less easy.

But I'm a crazy liberal so what do I know. :D

you're just crazy bubba!

and you know what I mean. you, for example, don't personalize the matter. others (including yours truly occasionally) do so over "there" including one mod in particular.
 
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Liberals are funny sometimes. They call an actual news program FAUX news and then get their news from a comedy program.

The extreme right-wing bias on Fox news makes it debatable whether or not its an "actual news program." Ironically, I think people turn to John Stewart for their news because he's the only one who might actually be telling it straight - so he's closer to an "actual news program" than any of these other fear-mongering, left and right-wing biased shows. Just my 2 cents.
 
The extreme right-wing bias on Fox news makes it debatable whether or not its an "actual news program." Ironically, I think people turn to John Stewart for their news because he's the only one who might actually be telling it straight - so he's closer to an "actual news program" than any of these other fear-mongering, left and right-wing biased shows. Just my 2 cents.


The Daily Show wasn't the comedy program I was thinking of.

It was MSNBC.
 
This should certainly make you circle-jerkers happy: Pelosi is considering staying on and running for House minority leader. And rational Democrats everywhere collectively facepalm.

http://bit.ly/9VyVcd
 
The extreme right-wing bias on Fox news makes it debatable whether or not its an "actual news program." Ironically, I think people turn to John Stewart for their news because he's the only one who might actually be telling it straight - so he's closer to an "actual news program" than any of these other fear-mongering, left and right-wing biased shows. Just my 2 cents.

well...

1) stewart performs what the script writers hand him. he's not some profound analyst networking into the political and professional communities. they have the easiest job in the universe...making fun of others without contributing any real analysis of their own. ever hear stewart "opine" on how the deficit should be handled, how the trade deficit should be managed, or how health care costs can be cut? no. of course not. cuz...just like the free air time rally...that's not their mission. they are paid a ton of money to find what they believe are the sanctimonious, hyprocritical or just plane stupid statements of others.

2) disturbing as it may seem.....more folks listen to Fox than any other TV/cable hosted news forum. they have a definite conservative bent (and in the case of Hannity a Republican bias)...but your characterization of Fox as right wing (and the connotations you are trying to evoke) says more about you and your biases than it does Fox. no doubt you prefer a balanced source like NPR or diversity challenged groups like MSNBC!!!
 
well...

1) stewart performs what the script writers hand him. he's not some profound analyst networking into the political and professional communities. they have the easiest job in the universe...making fun of others without contributing any real analysis of their own. ever hear stewart "opine" on how the deficit should be handled, how the trade deficit should be managed, or how health care costs can be cut? no. of course not. cuz...just like the free air time rally...that's not their mission. they are paid a ton of money to find what they believe are the sanctimonious, hyprocritical or just plane stupid statements of others.

2) disturbing as it may seem.....more folks listen to Fox than any other TV/cable hosted news forum. they have a definite conservative bent (and in the case of Hannity a Republican bias)...but your characterization of Fox as right wing (and the connotations you are trying to evoke) says more about you and your biases than it does Fox. no doubt you prefer a balanced source like NPR or diversity challenged groups like MSNBC!!!

I suggest you read more and type less...you have completely mischaracterized my point.
 
This should certainly make you circle-jerkers happy: Pelosi is considering staying on and running for House minority leader. And rational Democrats everywhere collectively facepalm.

http://bit.ly/9VyVcd

ahh now....don't pout Cranky! Just like 2008 these things move in cycles. I'm sure that some crowd of Leftist fascists like the current group will eventually make their way back into power. after all....they have already laid the dependency foundation!!!
 
hahahahaah...

anyone who gets their news from jon stewart or stephen colbert are most likely going to be people i dont want to talk politics with anyways.

correction...you may talk to them...you just can't take them seriously!
 
Well, since I never said it was 'breaking news,' looks like you're way off base again, Mike. Amazing how that always seems to happen when you get in discussions.

Does the fact that it aired a year ago make it any less true?
 
What the hell are you people talking about? Did I see someone try to defend FOX News? Really? I am as conservative as they come, voted Repub is every election, but to characterize FOX News as anything other than the media arm of the right is nuts. They have found a way to get viewership and make money, more power to them. So has Jon Stewart. MSNBC? Not so much. Maybe one day they will get viewers, but not any time soon.

If any of you are relying on any ONE of these "sources" exclusively for how you view the world, good luck to ya. I watch JS every night, to be entertained. If I want news and analysis, I check Google News or the Economist.

Diversify people, diversify.

And Mike and Lanky, get a room fercrissakes.
 

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