Kirk Cousins Development Tracker

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Its looking more and more like cousins and gruden will be re-upped. After next year, its greater than 50% gruden will be extended imho. why? I think this team is poised to make some noise next year. And McClou has said directly he is in total support of Gruden. Much to your chagrin.

It's realistic that we could end up, more than doubling our win total from last year. And of course he stays, if that happens.
 
I'm torn on keeping Gruden. His leadership, playcalling, and preparedness leave a lot to be desired but Cousins has done well under his tutelage and I'd be hesitant to cut bait until the Scot has time to stock the roster with more talent before giving up on him.

This gives Cousins another year to develop under Gruden and will solidify him should the team take a different direction in a year.
 
I'm always thrown off when I read comments that refer to Scott McCloughan's opinions or statements on, well, anything. Has he commented on anything this season? If so, I've completely missed them.
 
I'm always thrown off when I read comments that refer to Scott McCloughan's opinions or statements on, well, anything. Has he commented on anything this season? If so, I've completely missed them.

He comments all the time. You're just lookin in the wrong place. It's all comin out of the mouth of Dianna Russini. No pun intended.
 
Huh. I follow her on Twitter and never see any info relevant to the subject. Must be me.
 
I wonder if not only we're going through growing pains with Kirk but with McVay also?

Part of me wonders how things are different with Kirk and the offense if we had a veteran play caller on the sidelines instead of Sean McVay?

Gruden has recently said he suggests pass plays,Callahan suggests runs. Then we've heard Randy Jordan decides who the back is in the game.

IMO, it sounds like too many cooks in the kitchen.
 
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to see the game due to crazy circumstances (went out of town, came back and had: death of someone close to us, eye surgery, & Star Wars). I have the game on DVR, but haven't been able to free up time. I'm also in a lurch this weekend and might miss the Bills game. That's why I've been relatively quiet about the Redskins this week.

Regardless, nothing has changed for me... I still think Cousins can be a very capable backup/spot starter. He has done a fine job with what he has been given, but there isn't really anything special about him. I can easily name 18 QBs right now who I would consider better than Cousins, and he is in a mix of QBs that I'd rank between 20-25 in the league. This is also why I would've invested in Griffin, because he is the only one on the roster who could've been special (if Gruden had continued to invest in his development)...

Wow, you've had a crazy week. Sorry about the death of a loved one. And good luck on the eye surgery. That makes me squint my eyes just thinking about it. It's good to see you back.

I have to say though, I still believe you make some wild assumptions about the QB position.

1. "RG3 is the only one on the roster who could've been special." For starters, you have no idea if that's true. Kirk may turn out to be very special. Fans said the same thing about Dalton--another QB that was judged as "average" by fans for several years. Like Dalton, Kirk also has the benefit of being coached by Gruden. I think the odds are that he can do something similar with Kirk. The WRs are open all over the place and it's a very QB-friendly offense.

2. "I would have invested in Griffin." What could possibly be riskier than that? I suppose making a long-term investment in Wes Welker might be. With RG3's past injury history, and with his tendency to get injured frequently, how could Scot possibly build around him for the next four years, and how could anyone ask Dan to sign him to a four year deal? I woudn't write that check. You wouldn't either. Seriously, what were the odds that RG3 could have stayed healthy for 16 games this season? 5%? And what about next season? Who wants to write the check for that?

3. "If Gruden had continued to invest in his development." Just like with Kai Forbath, Gruden did invest in his development. He invested two training camps, and a lot of games. Hundreds and hundreds of hours. He even supported him in public, naming him the starter to build up his confidence. But like Kai, he had aspects of his game that weren't helping out the team.

John Keim has reported that the locker room would have imploded if Griffin had been the starter this season. Mutiny.

Now why do you think many of the other players would have been so pissed off if RG3 was the starter? Don't you believe the other players want to win games? They want the best QB behind center. So why would they have been so upset if they had to play with RG3?
 
agree...per previous...it's my hope that Gruden is load shedded as well. not likely.

my prediction is that Cousins will be gone once we move into a familiar scenario - recurring playoff appearances (I think the roster will be improved enough to accomplish that) - with nothing to show for it. that'll take 3-4 years. people seem not to notice that this trajectory has been seen many, many times.[/QUOTE]

Recurring playoff appearances is a trajectory that we've seen many, many times?

What team are you talking about? The Redskins? It's certainly not the Redskins. I'd kill for recurring playoff appearances.

We've seen recurring playoff appearances one time in 20 years? Many, many times?
 
I'm torn on keeping Gruden. His leadership, playcalling, and preparedness leave a lot to be desired but Cousins has done well under his tutelage and I'd be hesitant to cut bait until the Scot has time to stock the roster with more talent before giving up on him.

This gives Cousins another year to develop under Gruden and will solidify him should the team take a different direction in a year.

This is the biggest point that everyone misses. You are the first that I've seen mention it. Great post.

People need to think bigger.

Forget about where Gruden is 5 years from now. What does a rebuilding team really want? What's the perfect scenario?

A HC who draws up plays that constantly get the WRs open so both they and the QB can develop rapidly? A guy that can come into a dumpster fire, make unpopular decisions, calm down the drama and put the team in a position to make the playoffs? How about a guy who can pick good assistant coaches to help develop the players quickly? And even if he's fired, he leaves us with competent football people to choose from? Hello, Perry Fewell.

Now he may not be here three years from now. He may not turn out to be incredible.

But he has a track record of going to crappy franchises, with crappy overpowering owners that believe they know something about football, and turning those jokes into winners.

He's the perfect coach for a rebuilding phase. Scot can actually see what our younger players like Cousins and Crowder can do. Reed also seems to be benefitting.
 
Reed also seems to be benefitting.

Reed's put us all to shame, by suddenly transforming from glass to steel.
If somebody would have told us before the season, that we would end up with 3 Tight Ends on the IR, but Reed wouldn't be one of them, we would have laughed it off.
Crazy thing is, he's playing more reckless and aggressive as ever, on top of that.
 
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Somebody did say it. Reed is the most dangerous pass catching TE in the league, and should be a Pro Bowl lock, and I have said it from the beginning.
 
Somebody did say it. Reed is the most dangerous pass catching TE in the league, and should be a Pro Bowl lock, and I have said it from the beginning.

I think many have said it, the injury concern was our biggest issue with him. However, instead of folding after an early season injury like last year, he came back and proved he could play through. He's definitely one weapon this team "needs" right now. Desean helps, but without Reed we probably can't win right now.
 
Redskins fans have trashed him almost universally . He's a perfect example of Skins fan impatience. He has flaws as most players, even great ones, do. But he's pretty much shoved the 'fragile' and 'timid' label down his critics throats this year. Period.


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Redskins fans have trashed him almost universally . He's a perfect example of Skins fan impatience. He has flaws as most players, even great ones, do. But he's pretty much shoved the 'fragile' and 'timid' label down his critics throats this year. Period.


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Now if we could get him to learn not to get the untimely holding or pass interference calls.
 
Somebody did say it. Reed is the most dangerous pass catching TE in the league, and should be a Pro Bowl lock, and I have said it from the beginning.

I'll give you 3rd best for sure and maybe 2nd best. Gronk is the best. Period. He is a game changer and the only true game changer at the position in the league. Greg Olsen also has to be in the discussion although he may or may not be better than Reed.

However, it is still awesome to have a guy in this discussion on this team. It has been so rare here for the last couple of decades.
 

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