Burner’s Burning Questions – Offseason Edition, Mock Draft (3rd Mock Posted)

Reportedly, Poe is the "Apple of the Cowboys' eye" according to Clayton (I think?). I hope the Cowboys draft him and he busts hard!
 
For those who thought I was too hard on Dontari Poe recently and saying that he is overrated (always thought that he would go no higher than the third round)...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/02/more-talk-that-dontari-poes-draft-stock-is-sinking/

For the record, I do not want the Redskins to draft him.



i have had a theory about draft positioning for a while, when a workout warrior is drafted earlier than he should be, he rarely pans out because he doesnt works as hard to get better, most of the time those guys havent been productive because they coast on being strong or fast and never develop technique or instincts. when that same type of guy is drafted later, often they work harder and become solid players, it just takes time and later drafted players who flash ability are often given that, while early rounders are expected to be good right away. Poe didnt play to his measurables, he lacks technique, he would be better served being drafted late to a team that doesnt force him in right away.
 
Reportedly, Poe is the "Apple of the Cowboys' eye" according to Clayton (I think?). I hope the Cowboys draft him and he busts hard!

I've seen some mocks suggesting that the Cowboys could take him with the 14th pick. Could be a smokescreen as well. Ya never know.
 
BBQ Mock Draft Two

Round One:
Robert Griffin, III – QB, Baylor
Griffin is the franchise QB that Mike Shanahan has been seeking since John Elway. Griffin has many similarities to Elway, but is a much better athlete. Redskins are quickly falling in love with RG3 and he will become the face of the franchise for many years to come.

Round Three:
Projected trade. With a higher pick in the third round, the Redskins move further down in the third round and obtain an extra fourth rounder and a seventh rounder as well.
Mitchell Schwartz – OT, California
Schwartz will fill a huge need at RT. Jammal Brown continues to be plagued with injuries and it could be time to move on to a younger player.

Round Four:
Brandon Taylor - S, LSU
The Redskins fill another need at free safety with the selection of Taylor – an underrated prospect who could start early in his career.

Round Four:
Projected Trade. The Redskins use this trade to pick up a fifth and sixth rounder.

Round Four:
Nick Jean-Baptiste - DT/NT, Baylor
Jean-Baptiste is an underrated DT who was overshadowed by the offense and the dynamics of Robert Griffin, III. The talented defensive lineman should be able to step right in and become a part of the rotation with Barry Cofield, Stephen Bowen, and Chris Neild.

Round Five:
Brian Quick - WR, Appalachian State
Quick is a big receiver who has decent speed and could be a reliable red zone target. He will ride the pine for a year or two and take the necessary time to adjust to the pro game.

Round Five:
Robert Turbin - RB, Utah State
Mike Shanahan has a knack for finding late round gems at RB and Turbin will be no exception to this rule. A sleeper prospect that is strong and very quick – a perfect fit for the ZBS running game. A running game featuring Helu, Royster, and Turbin will be a nightmare for opposing defenses.

Round Six:
Joe Cullen - OT, Utah
Cullen is a RT prospect who could be a very reliable backup for many years. It would not be a surprise to see him as the opening day starter at RT as well.

Round Six:
Desmond Wynn - G, Rutgers
Desmond Wynn is another OL prospect that could start ahead of Maurice Hurt or Kory Lichtensteiger if he is able to learn and excel in the ZBS early on. At the very least, Wynn would be a very capable backup at both guard positions.

Round Seven:
George Bryan - TE, N.C. State
Bryan could be the player who puts Chris Cooley on notice. A reliable blocker with good hands, George Bryan is certainly talented enough to make the team and this selection could force Rob Myers to the practice squad.

Round Seven:
Shawn Loiseau - ILB, Merrimack
Shawn Loiseau is a very talented LB who could learn under the tutelage of London Fletcher (assuming he returns). Loiseau has a high motor and the skillset to be a superb inside player for many years to come. Don’t let the small college label fool you – Fletcher came from a small school as well. Loiseau has the goods to be a great one.
 
Man, I would love to get Jean-Baptiste in the 4th round, but I doubt he makes it out of the 3rd, possibly even going in the late 2nd round. NTs are at a premium, and a guy who dominated like that at the senior bowl (or shrine game, whatever it was) will be a hot commodity.
 
Chigbo Anunoby, DT/NT from Morehouse. 6' 4"-328lbs.

From National Football Post;

Chigbo Anunoby has a massive frame and really carries his weight well. He doesn't seem soft or flabby through the mid-section and his lower half iss wide, well-built and really powerful looking. Has an NFL type frame.

The 6-4, 324-pound lineman is an absolute bear to move inside vs. the run. He fires off the football low, showcases natural anchor strength and the type of power/balance to extend his arms and fend off blocks inside. However, even more impressive was is overall ball awareness. The guy consistently flows toward the action and really does a nice job locating the ball quickly. As a pass rusher he also displays a little more short area quickness than you would expect for a guy his size, doing a nice job at times working an arm over and side stepping a block off the ball, while also pushing the pocket as a bull rusher.

Impression: He's never going to be a "plus" pass rusher in the NFL. However, he's a strong, long kid with a really well proportioned frame who can anchor inside and certainly has the talent to get plenty of looks from both 34 and 43 teams as a developmental big body.

Link: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html

NFP slates him as going about 181st. It's reported the Giants are checking him out-I think the Skins might want to also-what I've been reading has been positive and his stock and amount of notice he's getting is increasing.

Yeah, I know-small school and all but he just looks like a potentially useful pickup. Besides-he's got the coolest name I've seen since since D'Brickashaw Ferguson. :)
 
Man, I would love to get Jean-Baptiste in the 4th round, but I doubt he makes it out of the 3rd, possibly even going in the late 2nd round. NTs are at a premium, and a guy who dominated like that at the senior bowl (or shrine game, whatever it was) will be a hot commodity.
Chigbo Anunoby, DT/NT from Morehouse. 6' 4"-328lbs.

Yeah, I know-small school and all but he just looks like a potentially useful pickup. Besides-he's got the coolest name I've seen since since D'Brickashaw Ferguson. :)

The DTs seem to be dropping a bit and this is why I put Baptiste in the 4th round - this is where he would probably be slotted today. This is only the second mock I have done this season and there will be two updates per week until the draft. More changes/adjustments are likely to occur and it will be based on factors like FA, team cap situation, team needs, etc.

After our first choice, everything is open for debate. :)
 
Burner’s Burning Questions – Offseason Edition, Mock Draft (4th Mock Posted)

Here is the third mock from BBQ. Some minor adjustments have been made and a FA projection list has been added. As always, feel free to discuss it and add/subtract some players as desired. I will have new mocks on Mondays and Thursdays prior to the draft.

BBQ Mock Draft Three

Round One:
Robert Griffin, III – QB, Baylor
Griffin is the franchise QB that Mike Shanahan has been seeking since John Elway. Griffin has many similarities to Elway, but is a much better athlete. Redskins are quickly falling in love with RG3 and he will become the face of the franchise for many years to come.

Round Three:
Projected trade. With a higher pick in the third round, the Redskins move further down in the third round and obtain an extra fourth rounder.
Mitchell Schwartz – OT, California
Schwartz will fill a huge need at RT. Jammal Brown continues to be plagued with injuries and it could be time to move on to a younger player.

Round Four:
Brandon Taylor - S, LSU
The Redskins fill another need at free safety with the selection of Taylor – an underrated prospect who could start early in his career.

Round Four:
Projected Trade. The Redskins use this trade to pick up a fifth and seventh rounder.

Round Four:
Ryan Broyles - WR/KR, Oklahoma
Broyles has enthusiastically dedicated himself to coming back from a knee injury. His stock has dropped, but this is an unfair situation - Broyles is a legitimate late first round talent who has blazing speed. Drafting him would bring an end to the Santana Moss era in Washington.

Round Five:
Robert Turbin - RB, Utah State
Mike Shanahan has a knack for finding late round gems at RB and Turbin will be no exception to this rule. A sleeper prospect that is strong and very quick – a perfect fit for the ZBS running game. A running game featuring Helu, Royster, and Turbin will be a nightmare for opposing defenses.

Round Five:
Projected Trade. The Redskins use this trade to pick up a sixth and seventh rounder.


Round Six:
John Cullen - OT, Utah
Cullen is a RT prospect who could be a very reliable backup for many years. It would not be a surprise to see him as the opening day starter at RT as well.

Round Six:
Desmond Wynn - G, Rutgers
Desmond Wynn is another OL prospect that could start ahead of Maurice Hurt or Kory Lichtensteiger if he is able to learn and excel in the ZBS early on. At the very least, Wynn would be a very capable backup at both guard positions.

Round Seven:
B.J. Coleman - QB, UT-Chattanooga
Coleman has the tools to be a decent solution as a long term backup in the NFL. He will need time to adjust to the game and could produce as a starter or in relief, especially when injuries occur to the starting QB.

Round Seven:
George Bryan - TE, N.C. State
Bryan could be the player who puts Chris Cooley on notice. A reliable blocker with good hands, George Bryan is certainly talented enough to make the team and this selection could force Rob Myers to the practice squad.

Round Seven:
Shawn Loiseau - ILB, Merrimack
Shawn Loiseau is a very talented LB who could learn under the tutelage of London Fletcher (assuming he returns). Loiseau has a high motor and the skillset to be a superb inside player for many years to come. Don’t let the small college label fool you – Fletcher came from a small school as well. Loiseau has the goods to be a great one.

Possible FA Pickups:
Jarrett Lee - QB, LSU
Marc Tyler - RB, Southern Cal
Derek Moye - WR, Penn State
Dan Hoch - OT, Missouri
Daron Rose - OT, North Alabama
Lonnie Edwards - G, Texas Tech
Scott Wedige - C, Northern Illinois
DaJohn Harris - DT, USC
Akiem Hicks - DT, Regina University (Canada)
Josh Linam - ILB, Central Florida
Darius Nall - DE/OLB, Central Florida
Tashaun Gipson - CB, Wyoming
Matt Merletti - SS, North Carolina
 
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You may not want to give TOO much away, BB - I think they're planning on doing the mock draft contest again this year. :)
 
You may not want to give TOO much away, BB - I think they're planning on doing the mock draft contest again this year. :)

That's true. I finished in a tie for first last year and plan to be a participant in name only this time around. It's time for the other winner from last year to claim it outright or have a new winner. :)
 
So you wouldn't be surprised to see Joe Cullen beat out Mitchell Schwartz assuming they were both drafted?

That makes me wonder why you think Schwartz is worthy of the 3rd round pick then. Is there another RT prospect that you like better than Schwartz and Cullen? What about Donald Stephenson out of Oklahoma, some are saying he'd be a good candidate to switch to RT?
 
RE: Mitchell Scwhartz via @nfldraftscout -

Talk this morning that Mitchell Schwartz could be late first-rounder, ala Duane Brown or James Carpenter, who few expected.

Few people had Duane Brown in first round, now he's All-Pro level. Don't be shocked if Mitchell Schwartz goes in that 25-32 range
 
Up and down they go. This is why the BBQ mock is twice a week now - another one is coming out on Thursday.
 
IIRC, Schwartz was one of the few guys at the Senior bowl who was able to consistantly block Quentin Coples and Courtney Upshaw. I think he goes late in the second round but, if not, may the Schwartz be with us. ;)
 
I have had him in the mocks for a few weeks now and this was just posted by the WaPo...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...QAqHjJ8S_blog.html?wprss=rss_football-insider

Interesting. They really need to stop getting their news from here and other unnamed places. :biggrin2:

Yeah, you were the only one on the planet talking about him. In fact, I bet if you hadn't posted your mocks, he would have gone undrafted and unsigned! He probably owes you at least what he's paying his agent in finder's fees, because without you he'd probably be working some dead end job somewhere.

Burgundy Burner! Creator of NFL careers! ;)
 
If you watch particular players often enough you can trump the draft gurus.

I recall a Washington State alum saying Mark Rypien had an NFL arm and was smart enoug to make it in the league.

Beathard chose him amid a chorus of critics that called it a wasted pick in 1986.

No one was saying that 3 years later.

Turns out the fan knew more about the player than most of the pencil necks.
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If you watch particular players often enough you can trump the draft gurus.

I recall a Washington State alum saying Mark Rypien had an NFL arm and was smart enoug to make it in the league.

Beathard chose him amid a chorus of critics that called it a wasted pick in 1986.

No one was saying that 3 years later.

Turns out the fan knew more about the player than most of the pencil necks.
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Fair enough, but a different point altogether. I was just giving BB a bit of a hard time, that's all.
 
I like the look of Schwartz, love his versatility

What about the Centre from Baylor?

Only reason I mention him is this.

Given our track record of oline injuries if we need a backup there lets have someone RGIII knows
 
Burner’s Burning Questions – Offseason Edition, Mock Draft (4th Mock Posted)

Here is the fourth mock from BBQ. Some adjustments have been made and a UDFA projection list has been added. As always, feel free to discuss it and add/subtract some players as desired. I will have new mocks on Mondays and Thursdays prior to the draft.

BBQ Mock Draft Four

Round One:
Robert Griffin, III – QB, Baylor
Griffin is the franchise QB that Mike Shanahan has been seeking since John Elway. Griffin has many similarities to Elway, but is a much better athlete. Redskins are quickly falling in love with RG3 and he will become the face of the franchise for many years to come.

Round Three:
Projected trade. With a higher pick in the third round, the Redskins move further down in the third round and obtain an extra fourth rounder.
James Brown – OT, Troy
Brown is an athletic lineman who could have the potential to start at left tackle and allow Trent Williams to move to the right side. Brown is a gifted athlete and would thrive at right tackle though. The other Brown, Jammal Brown, continues to be plagued with injuries and it could be time to move on to a younger player.

Round Four:
Robert Turbin - RB, Utah State
Mike Shanahan has a knack for finding late round gems at RB and Turbin will be no exception to this rule. A sleeper prospect that is strong and very quick – a perfect fit for the ZBS running game. A running game featuring Helu, Royster, and Turbin will be a nightmare for opposing defenses.

Round Four:
Projected Trade. The Redskins use this trade to pick up a fifth and seventh rounder.

Round Four:
Chase Minnifield - CB, Virginia
Even though his stock has dropped, Minnifield is a quality prospect who will fill an immediate need as a nickel CB. He could become a quality starter within a year or two.

Round Five:
Ryan Broyles - WR/KR, Oklahoma
Broyles has enthusiastically dedicated himself to coming back from a knee injury. His stock has dropped, but this is an unfair situation - Broyles is a legitimate late first round talent who has blazing speed. Drafting him would bring an end to the Santana Moss era in Washington.

Round Five:
Projected Trade. The Redskins use this trade to pick up a sixth and seventh rounder.


Round Six:
John Cullen - OT, Utah
Cullen is a RT prospect who could be a very reliable backup for many years. It would not be a surprise to see him as the opening day starter at RT as well.

Round Six:
Desmond Wynn - G, Rutgers
Desmond Wynn is another OL prospect that could start ahead of Maurice Hurt or Kory Lichtensteiger if he is able to learn and excel in the ZBS early on. At the very least, Wynn would be a very capable backup at both guard positions.

Round Seven:
B.J. Coleman - QB, UT-Chattanooga
Coleman has the tools to be a decent solution as a long term backup in the NFL. He will need time to adjust to the game and could produce as a starter or in relief, especially when injuries occur to the starting QB.

Round Seven:
George Bryan - TE, N.C. State
Bryan could be the player who puts Chris Cooley on notice. A reliable blocker with good hands, George Bryan is certainly talented enough to make the team and this selection could force Rob Myers to the practice squad.

Round Seven:
Shawn Loiseau - ILB, Merrimack
Shawn Loiseau is a very talented LB who could learn under the tutelage of London Fletcher (assuming he returns). Loiseau has a high motor and the skillset to be a superb inside player for many years to come. Don’t let the small college label fool you – Fletcher came from a small school as well. Loiseau has the goods to be a great one.

Possible UDFA Pickups:
Jarrett Lee - QB, LSU
Marc Tyler - RB, Southern Cal
Derek Moye - WR, Penn State
Dan Hoch - OT, Missouri
Daron Rose - OT, North Alabama
Donald Stephenson - OT, Oklahoma
Lonnie Edwards - G, Texas Tech
Scott Wedige - C, Northern Illinois
DaJohn Harris - DT, USC
Akiem Hicks - DT, Regina University (Canada)
Josh Linam - ILB, Central Florida
Darius Nall - DE/OLB, Central Florida
Tashaun Gipson - CB, Wyoming
Matt Merletti - SS, North Carolina
 
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