Random Commanders Thoughts

Doubt they move him, but it's been a long time that we've had multiple players on the team, that other teams may covet.

If Robinson ends up the #1 RB right now we are in trouble. He showed flashes against GB, but not enough yet.

I don't know why on Earth you would even think about trading your best offensive player unless you are just blowing it up in a total rebuild.

Exactly. Gibson has his issues, but he also hits the hole faster and harder than any of our other backs combined.

I know we all know this, but teams always call around seeing who might be available--doesn't mean the team receiving the call is interested.

What I would be interested in is what if any calls our team has been making to others ...

I often wonder if WE do that. Seems like we are always watching good trades happen but never involved in one.

We aren't in a position where a guy like Quinn might put us over the top. We aren't near the top. And we don't have a lot of draft capital to play with either.

We are exactly the kind of team, like the Bears or Giants, that should be potentially parting ways with guys to BUILD draft capital for the next couple of years.

I mean in the past 2 decades. Even when we were decent we still weren't in those talks.

the problem for me is we are not creative. this coach and front office are rather slow-footed in making changes and often telegraph their moves.

The Eagles to me are a model for a reboot the past 2 years. They found a serviceable quarterback in Hurts in Round 2 who has grown into a better player and while he is on a cheap contract the team has been able to go out and upgrade the WR corps, linebackers and defensive backfield.

Washington and Rivera hasn't figured out yet that taking up $28M in cap space on an average starting quarterback ranked in the 20's PREVENTS you from being able to acquire the talent you need at other positions.

This past week the Eagles acquired Robert Quinn as sacks and pressure had been an issue for them in recent games. It's called covering the bases.

Washington has injuries all over the OL with some players like Rouillier out for the season and yet we make no moves at all.

Our response is to promote waiver wire quality players like Larsen and martin to and from the practice squad. Meanwhile, the statue we have at quarterback with the middling release gets pummeled for several weeks from the pocket.

And Wentz is the guy Ron is ALL IN on?

Ditto at TE where at one point we had ALL FOUR listed tight ends with injuries of one type or another.

You look at an Eagles team in 2020 that had trouble scoring points and dial back in in 2022 and see DeVonta Smith and AJ Brown at WR.

Again, Washington seems gun shy in investing any draft capital in a quarterback and that's one reason our free agent offseasons are as uneventful as they usually are - we have megabucks invested in older quarterbacks like Alex Smith or the soon to be 30 year old Carson Wentz.

yeah i dont think we're the ones soliciting the calls, teams are reaching out to us.


Mike, you're right... you wonder.

Joe Schobert is on the Titans (I believe he's even on the Practice Squad so we could have him for nothing more than his current salary and a roster spot)

It's complicated guys.

First of all, just because teams are bold and make moves, doesn't make them the right moves. Quinn's career is close to being over. Maybe it works out in the short-term, maybe not. The Rams have been universally lauded for their creativity and aggressiveness, and while it's reaped short-term rewards, the chickens may be coming home to roost now and it could take them years to recover. But the overall point stands - we are not bold. We lack imagination.

The other factor we give scant attention to - this is not a prestige destination. Teams often can't just 'trade for .....', in many cases players have options, or the team is trying to do them a solid. We just aren't a very attractive destination for reasons we are all infinitely aware of.

I do think it's fair to criticize this front office for a seeming inability to find a QB - in free agency, homegrown, in the draft - ANYWHERE - for decades. It's also fair to question why they ignore obvious roster holes over and over and seem content to 'go with what we got'. Then again - we're talking about a team that allows it's owner to browbeat the scouting department and executives in using 1st round selections on the guy Dan thinks is a winner.

It is what it is.

I'd at least like to see we are doing our due diligence with trades. Why do I think we aren't? How do I know we aren't? Because in the past 20 years I can't name one time we were mentioned or brought in someone via trade worth a damn. That's problem 1.

We also may not be a destination spot for players...unless they are a free agent looking to get overpaid. Which we ARE known for over the past 2 decades.

It's frustrating seeing the iggles build up draft picks AND quality vets on their way for a super bowl run while we sit back and debate if we should think of getting rid of our prime players.

Not surprised teams are sending out feelers for Gibson. He's been way underutilized all season including before Robinson's return. It's clear that he's in the team's doghouse. Teams are probably thinking they can get him on the cheap.

It's a matter of timing and this team has had very poor timing during Snyder's ownership.

A lot of that is on him and his minions as I do believe you create some of your own luck.

And sometimes you just can't get out of your own way.

TWICE this team has had the #2 overall pick in the draft when a franchise passer was available and we missed out on Andrew Luck and Joe Burrow because while being an awful team both of those years we were somehow focused on winning those extra one or two games to keep us out of the money.

On the other side of it, the trade side of it, Washington has simply been beaten like a rented mule.

And even though many of those trades happened BEFORE Ron got here it seems the current group is still largely haunted by them.

One position where we remain active though across administrations is the urge to FIX the quarterback position quickly with impulsive moves that were not well thought out.

At quarterback we are down there with Carolina and several other teams that can't seem to stop expending money, picks and time on the position.

34 year old Donovan McNabb for #2 and #3 picks? Andy Reid trades away overrated or aging quarterbacks. More on this below.

The haul for RG III in 2012? In terms of picks Washington gave up more than the Broncos gave up to the Colts to take John Elway.

The reactionary trade for Alex Smith at 35 to legitimize and take the heat off the bungling of the Cousins contract situation in 2016 and 2017. We were Reid's Guardian Angel in 2017, he had a $19M quarterback in Smith at 34 that he couldn't afford IF he wanted to add defensive playmakers AND start a young quarterback in Mahomes that sat for a year and was ready to play. So, we gave up #3 picks AND worse extended Smith with a rich new contract!

The signing of 38 year old Ryan Fitzpatrick to a one year deal when the club didn't draft a young quarterback to bring along during a defined transition period. Teams sign placeholders like Fitzpatrick from time to time but usually there is a long-term plan in place to either draft or develop a younger passer who will take over at some point. I remember when Rivera signed Fitzpatrick to that one year $10M deal he said in answer to a question that Ryan 'could be here for longer than a year' and he wasn't simply a stop gap. Really? I bet Reid and McVay laughed at that one.

The trade for the 29/30 year old Carson Wentz reportedly AFTER the team struck out on Garoppolo (injury) and Russell Wilson (didn't want to come to DC). To make things worse Washington took on ALL of the $28M contract due Wentz in 2022 instead of pushing back on Indy retaining some of that salary for the kinds of picks they were looking for. In an ironic twist Washington may be able to KEEP its #2 pick in 2023 BECAUSE Wentz went down with the injury and likely won't suit up for 70% of the team's snaps this year, so the pick will remain a #3.

Another rotten kettle of fish

If you miss out on a big name free agent or your original trade target, don't simply keep going down the list of players until you find one you can acquire.

Go into the MF**** draft and pull out a Jalen Hurts or other and have some courage your scouting did their jobs in identifying a guy who has the work ethic and upside with development to make it in this league.

Anybody looking for a clown costume for Halloween?

Curl is one of our major 'wins'

We are currently 2nd in any other NFC conference

I would have given Terry a lifetime contract last off-season.

What an amazing player, but even better person. He pours all the praise on others - God, family, teammates.

So humble, maturity beyond his years, and quite honestly, one of the few sports figures nowadays I am comfortable and confident telling my own kids to look up. Such a great example for how to carry yourself as an individual.

And what caps it off is that Heinicke looks for McLaurin at exactly those critical moments in the game when you have to make a play.

Whether you complete the pass or not, going to your best offensive player to win or lose the game for you is the right call.

SilentThreat said:

Curl is one of our major 'wins'

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I suppose it has to be mentioned, though, that he is widely regarded and accepted as a Kyle Smith find. Of course, just as we talk about with Turner on O, got to give some credit to JDR here too. Sometimes a player just gets the scheme, and Curl seems to really "get" the JDR scheme. Good find, good fit; it's exactly what you need from your GM and coordinators.