Random Commanders Thoughts

Marshown Lattimore is the first mistake of the Peters front office.

A team culture built on tough play, poise and accountability ...Lattimore has none of that. So how in the hell does he fit here?

Got to move him this off-season or by the trade deadline next season.
Agree, he was baited by AJ Brown, and he took the bait fully. AJ ripped his helmet off, then put his hands up like the scummy weasel he is. The refs of course threw the flag while Lattimore was yelling his head off.

They started by hitting each other, and then AJ ripped the helmet off. If Lattimore had reacted and then cooled, he would have gotten away with it. He reacted, and kept at it. He felt very much about himself in a few cases, not the same as the rest of the team.
 
Sad to read this feeling, but obviously many of us feel the same way. Check Luvu's quote. When players feel the refs are against them, that GREATLY affects the mindset. The refs did get into the Commanders' heads and I can't fully blame them.

"I was just timing the jump over," Luvu said. "They've been doing a lot in short yardage and I was going to take my shot. That's the mindset I came in with. Take my shot; if I make it I make it if not I bounce back. The third time they told me I get a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct. I didn't know what that was about. I guess they wanted them to score. So I stopped from there and that's how it played out."
 
Sad to read this feeling, but obviously many of us feel the same way. Check Luvu's quote. When players feel the refs are against them, that GREATLY affects the mindset. The refs did get into the Commanders' heads and I can't fully blame them.


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I think we lose anyway on the turnovers, bad call on the Barkley run too. I am totally impressed by this team and cannot wait until next year

By the way; I think Tom Brady is a geek, but I am sure he does not speak highly of me.
 
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If you watched the Kansas v Bills game. The Chiefs tried timing the play too only they were better at it and were given the benefit of the doubt. The only way to beat the tush push is to strike first (or simultaneously.)
 
Agree, he was baited by AJ Brown, and he took the bait fully. AJ ripped his helmet off, then put his hands up like the scummy weasel he is. The refs of course threw the flag while Lattimore was yelling his head off.

They started by hitting each other, and then AJ ripped the helmet off. If Lattimore had reacted and then cooled, he would have gotten away with it. He reacted, and kept at it. He felt very much about himself in a few cases, not the same as the rest of the team.
I wonder if this is why the coaches moved Lattimore off covering Brown after this. We don't have a shutdown corner
 
Prior to the deal, I thought considering Lattimore a shutdown corner was a very, very wishful and hopeful analysis.

But given where we were with BSJ, and having a real chance to make noise this season, I totally understood making a deal for him and crossing our fingers.

He’s been worse than I’d imagined, physically and mentally. Dudes played a few games here and loses his cool after getting worked in at least 3 of them. Comes across as selfish, and can’t really accept he’s not that dude.
 
Prior to the deal, I thought considering Lattimore a shutdown corner was a very, very wishful and hopeful analysis.

But given where we were with BSJ, and having a real chance to make noise this season, I totally understood making a deal for him and crossing our fingers.

He’s been worse than I’d imagined, physically and mentally. Dudes played a few games here and loses his cool after getting worked in at least 3 of them. Comes across as selfish, and can’t really accept he’s not that dude.
I think the coaches may be coming to that realization
 
i don't understand the hate for Lattimore. there will be more battles next year against Brown. when lattimore faces against other teams, they don't challenge him. also, the secondary, outside of lattimore, and Mikey St., are soft. they needed to step up and do their job, the job of HITTING A WR! they haven't done that all year! every year, our WRs are getting hit so why can't they do the same? as far as Bates go, i say they should re-sign the kid. change his position to FB, kinda like Juszczyk from the niners. the dude can block for a rb and he can gain more weight.

what else would i like to see? i hope the NFL gets rid of the tush push! it needs to go away. also, replay assist on QB hits! no more refs in favor of Mahommes! needs to stop, otherwise the game gets old and boring.
 
Lattimore is one of the top corners in the league and he has played far far below that level. I don't see how that is debatable so the "hate" is perfectly understandable. I don't like seeing fans blame the refs when their team got beaten by a score of 55-23. Come on now. We could not turn the ball over 3 times and commit stupid penalties, and yes most were in fact penalties, and expect to win that game. That killed any chance they had, just too much talent on the other side of the ball.
 
don't understand the hate for Lattimore. there will be more battles next year against Brown. when lattimore faces against other teams, they don't challenge him.
Hard to call how he squared up with AJ a battle. The Eagles staff respects ML so little they drew up a deep shot on 4th and 5.

I don’t think we have much choice but to live with him for a year or two. But $18M against the cap for an overly emotional dude that played slightly better than St. Juste is tough to swallow.
 
I don't like seeing fans blame the refs when their team got beaten by a score of 55-23. Come on now. We could not turn the ball over 3 times and commit stupid penalties, and yes most were in fact penalties, and expect to win that game. That killed any chance they had, just too much talent on the other side of the ball.
Make no mistake about it, the refs turned the game to a blowout. The missed hold on the 4th and 5 to Brown, the egregious personal foul on Barkey alone was an 11 point swing. Even at the end of the half, they had the audacity to call a 5 yard penalty rather than than a 15 when Carter tried to poke Biadasz eye out.

Yes, the fumbles absolutely solidified we had no chance. But they got blown out because the refs wanted to make sure it wasn’t close. Why, I don’t know but the calls/no calls were ridiculous.
 
Make no mistake about it, the refs turned the game to a blowout. The missed hold on the 4th and 5 to Brown, the egregious personal foul on Barkey alone was an 11 point swing. Even at the end of the half, they had the audacity to call a 5 yard penalty rather than than a 15 when Carter tried to poke Biadasz eye out.

Yes, the fumbles absolutely solidified we had no chance. But they got blown out because the refs wanted to make sure it wasn’t close. Why, I don’t know but the calls/no calls were ridiculous.
Football is becoming harder and harder to watch . The refs inject themselves every week . Add on all the betting services that are sponsors it makes you wonder if the fix is in on some of these games . Just my opinion. That’s why I hate commenting on games now a days because to me it’s like commenting on how hulk hogan beat Andre the giant
 
Make no mistake about it, the refs turned the game to a blowout. The missed hold on the 4th and 5 to Brown, the egregious personal foul on Barkey alone was an 11 point swing. Even at the end of the half, they had the audacity to call a 5 yard penalty rather than than a 15 when Carter tried to poke Biadasz eye out.

Yes, the fumbles absolutely solidified we had no chance. But they got blown out because the refs wanted to make sure it wasn’t close. Why, I don’t know but the calls/no calls were ridiculous.
The missed holding call on the 4th down was a huge missed call. But I'm sure an Eagles fan can point to a few misses that went our way as well, I clearly remember some. The refs did not decide this game and it's a bad look IMO to complain about the refs when your team committed 3 turnovers and lost by a larger margin than the Redskins lost to the Raiders in the Super Bowl.
 
The missed holding call on the 4th down was a huge missed call. But I'm sure an Eagles fan can point to a few misses that went our way as well, I clearly remember some. The refs did not decide this game and it's a bad look IMO to complain about the refs when your team committed 3 turnovers and lost by a larger margin than the Redskins lost to the Raiders in the Super Bowl.
It’s about context though.

The refs absolutely played a pivotal role in the game.

Sure, we were going to lose anyways with the fumbles. But it’s a lot closer and respectful if the game is called fairly.
 
Football is becoming harder and harder to watch . The refs inject themselves every week . Add on all the betting services that are sponsors it makes you wonder if the fix is in on some of these games . Just my opinion. That’s why I hate commenting on games now a days ...

Agree. What really hurt my respect for the league was the 2019 NFC championship game with the Saints and the Rams. I was not really rooting for any team. But the refs completely blew a pass interference call - I believe it was in the endzone. Catch was not made. No flag was thrown. Saints lost. And it was obvious on the replay that a pass interference call should have been made. With all the technology and cameras, why? Why was that allowed to stand? I was completely disgusted after that game. Why am I wasting my time watching this BS? My opinion of the league took a major hit, and it still lingers today.
 
Football is becoming harder and harder to watch . The refs inject themselves every week . Add on all the betting services that are sponsors it makes you wonder if the fix is in on some of these games . Just my opinion. That’s why I hate commenting on games now a days because to me it’s like commenting on how hulk hogan beat Andre the giant

I think I'm gonna boycott watching the Superbowl for the first time in probably...oh...27 years (when I was 7 years old).

Like, whether the refs are against teams or have biases is a separate debate but what isn't debatable is that the quality of the product has declined substantially. Maybe it's new cameras and replays and angles letting us see just how crappy the refs really are, or maybe the refs are getting worse, but I struggle to remember a game where we couldn't point to either a) a non-or-soft penalty or b) an obvious missed penalty, that didn't impact the outcome of a game.

The Chiefs/Bills game was really bad. Our game was rough but at least the NFL can console themselves with the fact we fumbled 3 times while the game was still within reach, beating ourselves, so that missed hold on the 4th down doesn't loom that large, like it would in, say, a 30-26 game. But the Chiefs/Bills game was rough even on the most basic thing the refs are supposed to do, that is, spotting the damn ball. And that it went against the Bills so often just reinforces the conspiracy theories.

There is zero excuse for the NFL not sticking a few tiny rfid chips in the ends of a football to help with positioning. None. It's super easy. That it hasn't happened just tells us the league doesn't really care about getting even the obvious things right.


Side note, the pushing the ball carrier rules should go back to their pre-2005 incarnation. What we saw yesterday was the natural conclusion of the tush push logic path; team pushes ball carrier, making short yardage situations nearly impossible for defenses to stop without timing it -> defense tries to time it -> offense uses hard count -> defense naturally gets penalized -> can't penalize yardage further in red zone -> defense basically has to give up the TD one way or another.

The fact that no one abused the rules this badly until the Eagles is surprising, but it's clear they're abusing it. There are some "alternative" options, like banning the hard count inside the 5 yard line or something, but that just feels overly complicated. Just go back to pre-2005 rules on pushing the ball carrier and be done with it.
 
i just don't understand why we don't do a tush push! if the eagles are going to continue doing it, then why not us? if they want to play that game, then washington needs to start using it also, practice it during the offseason training camp. don't use jayden! use the ultimate jumbo package! use daron payne under center and have him plow through! doesn't have to be daron payne! they can use any big guy that doesn't play a whole lot during the game. it's a game of chess. this team needs more creativity!
 
i just don't understand why we don't do a tush push! if the eagles are going to continue doing it, then why not us? if they want to play that game, then washington needs to start using it also, practice it during the offseason training camp. don't use jayden! use the ultimate jumbo package! use daron payne under center and have him plow through! doesn't have to be daron payne! they can use any big guy that doesn't play a whole lot during the game. it's a game of chess. this team needs more creativity!
I think it's because our QB is too small. We don't want him to get crunched. We tried it with Marriota. Heck, the Ravens do it with their tight end.
 

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