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Problem is, you don't know that he ever offered a bounty for those things - you're just inferring that's what Williams did. I generally agree with you (as Gregg Williams himself is saying) that his behavior is unacceptable. But there's no evidence (I've seen so far anyway) that he encouraged players to do permanent harm (season or career-ending in nature) to other NFL players. You're over-stating on that front.It sucks, and if it goes to the extent reports are saying it does, Williams needs a league ban for life. It goes beyond the normal realm of football. I said it in the other thread, there's a difference between telling a player to really lay a hit on a guy, and offering financial compensation for players that end the season or career of an opponent, or send him off the field on a stretcher.
I was simply going on what was said in the report, along with what was said by Williams himself. The article not only implies that the bounty was to injure people, it flat out says that's what it was for......Problem is, you don't know that he ever offered a bounty for those things - you're just inferring that's what Williams did. I generally agree with you (as Gregg Williams himself is saying) that his behavior is unacceptable. But there's no evidence (I've seen so far anyway) that he encouraged players to do permanent harm (season or career-ending in nature) to other NFL players. You're over-stating on that front.
Phil Daniels has said the exact same thing. Knocking someone out of a game and 'injuring him' are not necessarily synonymous. I think we have to take 'intent' into account here. Doesn't make it right, but I doubt Williams every consciously encouraged any player to seriously harm another player.
Then there was this from Williams himself.....New Orleans Saints players and at least one assistant coach maintained a bounty program the last three seasons for inflicting game-ending injuries on opposing players, including Brett Favre and Kurt Warner — a pool that reached as much as $50,000 and paid specific amounts for ''cart-offs'' and ''knockouts,'' the NFL said Friday.
And from Goodell....Williams' statement read. "It was a terrible mistake, and we knew it was wrong while we were doing it.
To back up what I was saying in the other thread, he wasn't simply encouraging tough football, or encouraging guys to go all out on a play. He was paying layers bounties for causing injury to opponents, which crosses so many boundaries, and people like him should be removed from all sports. Just like when John Thompson was coaching at Georgetown for basketball, and got caught sending players into a game just to inflict serious injury on an opponent having a career night.''The payments here are particularly troubling because they involved not just payments for 'performance,' but also for injuring opposing players,'' Commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement.
I've had this same thought...wonder how much Joe Gibbs even knew about what was going on during his 2nd tenure, at least on the defensive side of the ball?So disappointing...just sad. I'd say I can't see Gibbs ever allowing this but it happened on his watch.
A Brees thread? Sure, why not? More fuel for the fire, I always say.So can we start a Drew Brees thread?
Steal him and draft Tannehill?
Oh and of course we sign Nicks and what's his name...Meachem or the other one?
Oh, I agree 100%. The punishment is gonna be brutal. I just think most of the indignation floating around the innerwebz is laughably ridiculous.And Ax, I hear what you're saying, but the problem is that Goodell has painted himself into a corner. He has been preaching player safety (whether lip service or not is irrelevant) especially regarding concussions, and now this? He has no choice but to heavily discipline the Saints. It's gonna be ugly.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0304-bowen-nfl--20120304,0,4015992.columnPrices were set on Saturday nights in the team hotel.
In a makeshift meeting room, with the whisper of evening traffic pouring in from the Beltway, we laid our bounties on opposing players. We targeted big names, our sights set on taking them out of the game.