Redskins Shopping for D-Line Help?

[Elephant]

http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2011/08/redskins-likely-looking-for-de-help-after-jenkins-injury.html


Tandler brings up some good points. It looks like we are going to have to bring someone in. Do we bring in Daniels? Wait for some cuts?

Darion Scott has looked decent against second and third stringers. I haven't seen much from Worthington but others seem to think he has progressed.

Could we get anything if we traded someone like Stallworth?

This sucks!

 

[Lanky Livingston]

Chris Russell has been gushing over Worthington - I think if they really want a youth movement, they should give this guy a shot. Either him or Scott.

 

[Elephant]

hey, bringing back Daniels might be an alright move temporarily but not for long term. How old is he again? I dont really remember him producing too much last year.

Yeah, I wouldn't see him brought in for any longer than a season or maybe until we could sign someone off waivers. JJ, would be back next year. The thing is, he's a character guy who could understand the business side of it enough that he might be willing and understanding enough to sign under those circumstances.

Lanky, I have seen Scott more, especially in the second half of the Colts game. Not saying Worthington isn't performing well either, just that I noticed Scott more. I was certain he was gonna be on the roster anyway. Maybe Worthington can step up, but will it be enough? How deep do we go at D-line, especially since it seems like they will be rotating a lot?

 

[Bulldog]

No to Daniels. We should look for a player that has experience as a DE in the 3-4.

Either that or go with a younger guy we already have in camp. But if we were really confident with the current group, a potential move for DL would not be an issue.

 

[Bulldog]

come on Mike, Daniels is 38 years old. Surely there is one player out there with some NFL experience who could be used in a BACKUP or rotation role here in Washington for the 2011 season.

when the Giants lost both of their corners, they brought in veterans Brian Williams and Lito Sheppard.

neither player is what he was a few years ago but these guys are 31-32, not 40.

And in case you noticed, Daniels didn't play that well last year.

 

[Fear The Spear]

No to Daniels. We should look for a player that has experience as a DE in the 3-4.

Ummm, what do you think Daniels was doing last year ?

 

[Yusuf06]

If we can't find a decent stopgap to provide more depth at DE, we might consider moving Cofield to DE and rotating the two young guys at the nose. Certainly not an ideal answer but it would allow the young guys to get some experience. Who knows, Bryant and/or Neild might surprise us.

 

[Rymanofthenorth]

no to daniels, take a shot with a young guy off someones PR. maybe we get lucky

 

[Bulldog]

what we DON'T want to do is shift Cofield and Bowen around who have shown themselves to be successful so far in their roles here.

you don't change everything around for the loss of one player. you make a replacement at that one spot and leave the others in position.

too many changes will only result in a greater loss of effectiveness and dislocation.

 

[Posse Lover]

Here's a list of unsigned FAs that I've found...not sure how up-to-date the list was, but here they are. Notice who's the oldest.

Tully Banta-Cain, DE/OLB, Age: 31
Demetric Evans, DE, 49ers. Age: 32
Copeland Bryan, DE, Lions. Age: 28
Tim Bulman, DE, Texans. Age: 28
Victor Abiamiri, DE, Eagles. Age: 25
Stylez G. White, DE, Buccaneers. Age: 32
Phillip Daniels, DE/DT, Redskins. Age: 38

if we need DTs here's some possibilities...

Tank Johnson, DT, Bengals. Age: 29
Ma'ake Kemoeatu, NT, Redskins. Age: 32
Jimmy Kennedy, DT, Vikings. Age: 31
Travis Johnson, DE/DT, Chargers. Age: 29

 

[Miles Monroe]

what we DON'T want to do is shift Cofield and Bowen around who have shown themselves to be successful so far in their roles here.

you don't change everything around for the loss of one player. you make a replacement at that one spot and leave the others in position.

too many changes will only result in a greater loss of effectiveness and dislocation.

I agree completely, and while there may be few options right this minute for a younger replacement then Daniels, roster cut down is right around the corner, and there may be better options.

 

[Fear The Spear]

Here's a list of unsigned FAs that I've found...not sure how up-to-date the list was, but here they are. Notice who's the oldest.

Tully Banta-Cain, DE/OLB, Age: 31
Demetric Evans, DE, 49ers. Age: 32
Copeland Bryan, DE, Lions. Age: 28
Tim Bulman, DE, Texans. Age: 28
Victor Abiamiri, DE, Eagles. Age: 25
Stylez G. White, DE, Buccaneers. Age: 32
Phillip Daniels, DE/DT, Redskins. Age: 38

if we need DTs here's some possibilities...

Tank Johnson, DT, Bengals. Age: 29
Ma'ake Kemoeatu, NT, Redskins. Age: 32
Jimmy Kennedy, DT, Vikings. Age: 31
Travis Johnson, DE/DT, Chargers. Age: 29

I"d love to have Demetric Evans back as pure depth and rotation.
I was sad to see him leave the first time.
Not sure why someone of his talent is still available, tho.

 

[SkinsFTW]

Actually I think they are going to need some Safetys more than any DL help. Just sign Daniels or bring Kemo back if he's got anything left.

 

[Bulldog]

The last time I checked Kemo didn't play DE. That was where Jenkins was going to see the majority of his snaps.

The idea of bringing back Daniels, who at 38, has been injured and gradually declining from full-time to part-time status is not one that is enticing to me.

I think the team needs to move on. Try and find someone younger who has some 3-4 experience.

Worthington seems to have the size and some experience working in 3-4 systems, but we don't know how the coaches have graded him out since he was acquired.

He and Thaddeus Gibson seem to have some physical ability and were former Steelers, which the Redskins seem to be collecting.

 

[Lanky Livingston]

I think Worthington has played pretty well so far - and I'd love to see him get a chance. I'm sure once the first round of cuts happens, the Skins will scoop up a DE from somewhere.

 

[Dik Shuttle]

I'd stay young. I'm sure someone will be jettisoning a youngun. I don't think we were expecting a starter there, it was just good luck...then bad luck...

 

[Bulldog]

In a year when the club is rebuilding the last thing I want to see is the team sign a 33 year old one-legged vet for the DL.

If not Worthington, I hope we find a 23 or 24 year old player with some upside in the 3-4. Even if it is just as a solid backup.
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[Lanky Livingston]

Haslett's quotes in the most recent Post article seem to point towards Scott & Worthington making the roster.

 

[Bulldog]

Good. Been there, done that with Daniels and Kemoeatu. No need to rewind that movie.