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Redskins Insider: Who belongs on the Redskins’ Mount Rushmore?

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'Tis the season for made-for-TV football rankings. Pro Football Talk is debuting a new series in which it attempts to ascertain the four most important people in each franchise’s history. While this might not be very much fun for, say, … Continue reading →





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Sammy Baugh
Joe Gibbs
Darrell Green
Chris Hanburger
 

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Sammy Baugh, Joe Gibbs and Darrell Green I agree with for sure - not Hanburger though. Tough decision about who to put 4th - do you go with another guy from the glory-day 80s? I'd personally choose Riggins or Monk. Or do you go with someone from more recent times to even it out? Portis? Taylor? Fletcher? Dare I say it: Griffin? Its a good debate.

I think I'd throw Fletcher up there as the 4th guy, to include someone from present-day.
 

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1. Sammy Baugh (the early years, no brainer - all everything player)

2. Chris Hanburger (the middle years - defense needs at least one representative)

3. Joe Gibbs (won three Super Bowls)

4. Art Monk (won three Super Bowls, record setter - offense has their representative)
 

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I considered Riggins but I already had Gibbs (creator of that offense) and Green from the "glory years". Baugh was a no brainer. The inclusion of Hanburger had to happen for representation of the first Super Bowl team and the Over The Hill Gang.

No doubt Griff will take someone's place on this list in time but after just one year, no sir. Taylor might have as well but again, he just didn't play long enough and while he was becoming great, he took a couple of years to put his head on straight.

Portis and Fletcher were both more "modern" considerations because of their contributions and had this team won, or even made, a Super Bowl in their time here then they would have had a stronger argument for inclusion.

I'll also be honest and tell you that no one not in the Hall of Fame got consideration from me.
 

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I feel like portis can't be considered, he was the epitome of the team's dysfunction. I recognize he was pretty much the only person worth a crap on the team while he was here.
 

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Hanburger is a good representative of the "Over the Hill Gang," as he was solid but not spectacular; pretty much the M-O of that entire group. But I don't think that qualifies him for Mt. Rushmore, personally - if you want a rep for that group and the first superbowl, why not Allen himself? He was more a symbol of those teams than anyone on them, really.

I was being somewhat facetious mentioning Griff - but being in the "younger" crowd of Redskin fans, I would like seeing someone younger up there. And Fletcher is the Hanburger of his generation - a UDFA (Hanburger was an 18th-round draft pick, the equivalent of a UDFA in today's NFL) who has made everyone silly for not drafting him earlier. And while he's not a Hall of Famer quite yet, I think his long career, multiple pro-bowls and iron-man streak will be enough when he finally does decide to hang them up. Hopefully Griff can help add to his resume before he does. :D
 

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Perhaps it's my age but I'd substitute George Allen for Hanburger on the Redskins Mt. Rushmore.

He took the Redskins to their first NFL playoff in 26 years in 1971 and had them in the playoffs five of the next six years.

He basically built the "Over-the-Hill" gang.

He was famous for virtually creating the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry.

IMO, he created the image of the Redskins as a hard working, "bring yer lunch pail" group of tough minded football players. He took a team that had become pretty much an NFL also ran and turned them into contenders.

He's why I became a Redskins fan in the first place, a subjective choice I admit, but there it is.
 

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Even before Gibbs, George Allen brought winning back to Washington after a couple decades of mostly failure. That may have paved the way for Gibbs, who had even more success.

I'm really hoping RG3 ends up on that list eventually.

*EDIT* Great minds, Serv! ;)
 

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Perhaps it's my age but I'd substitute George Allen for Hanburger on the Redskins Mt. Rushmore.
Even before Gibbs, George Allen brought winning back to Washington after a couple decades of mostly failure. That may have paved the way for Gibbs, who had even more success.

*EDIT* Great minds, Serv! ;)

Errr....

Hanburger is a good representative of the "Over the Hill Gang," as he was solid but not spectacular; pretty much the M-O of that entire group. But I don't think that qualifies him for Mt. Rushmore, personally - if you want a rep for that group and the first superbowl, why not Allen himself? He was more a symbol of those teams than anyone on them, really.
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To put George Allen (who won zero SBs) on the same level as Joe Gibbs (three SBs) is simply wrong. Two coaches and two players is a nice thought, but it does not reflect reality.
 

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Baugh
George Allen
Gibbs
Monk

The Hogs played a big role in both Gibbs and Monk's success. But, like the Hogs, they were there throughout.

Riggins would have been a "who" without them. (The Hogs)

If you go strictly players

Baugh
Mitchell
Sonny
Monk
 

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To put George Allen (who won zero SBs) on the same level as Joe Gibbs (three SBs) is simply wrong. Two coaches and two players is a nice thought, but it does not reflect reality.
So with that theory no member of this organization deserves credit for anything but winning superbowls?

George Allen is deserving. How deserving? That's the only debate. Allen's accomplishments cast a large shadow over many of the players contributions to the Redskins organization that I have seen discussed. An he made a couple of them.
 

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Yeah maybe you put a pig up there for the hogs . Or maybe bugel.
 

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Baugh
George Allen
Gibbs
Monk
I like it. But I would simply change Monk to Darrell. His longevity and loyalty to a single franchise wins in my eyes.
 

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OK Lanky, we'll add you to the "Great Minds" list seeing as you were first. :cheers:
 

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I like it. But I would simply change Monk to Darrell. His longevity and loyalty to a single franchise wins in my eyes.
Good point. Monk's short days wearing shades of green should be a major factor in deciding one of the literal faces of the franchise.

In the vein of tshile's post - since we're making a Redskin "Mt. Rushmore," what should it be called? I humbly suggest "Mt. Hog" or "Mt. Bugel" as a nod to the OL that pretty much brought this franchise to greatness, and a symbol that most of the great players stood on their shoulders.
 

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