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Have no idea if it’s the case for Young or not but maybe missing the voluntary OTA’s set him back.
He had those sacks against weak tackles...when he plays good ones, he cannot bull rush past, he is mediocre at best.His 7.5 sacks and other numbers his rookie season really didn’t warrant the hype he got. Would anyone really have much of an argument with me if I said ‘Montez Sweat had a better year’? Not Young’s fault he has been so over-hyped. I don’t think we have any idea what his career is going to look like in the end. I’ve already said what I think about us making him the #2 pick on that draft.
He had those sacks against weak tackles...when he plays good ones, he cannot bull rush past, he is mediocre at best.
I mean seriously, do you guys not watch film on him? We had this argument a couple years ago when he was disappearing in the big games at OSU. In his senior year he had two games with 3 or more sacks which made up nearly half his sack total. In the final 3 games of the year against quality opponents he had a half a sack.
Last year in the regular season he padded stats against weaker talent, then disappeared completely against Tampa in the playoffs.
It's not like I don't have a body of evidence to support what i'm saying.
Stop trying to turn this into something else. It's not about me, it's about Chase Young being over rated...a discussion you and I had before he was ever drafted. At this point, with word coming out about your 1st round LB pick being a tad slow to the NFL game, Isaiah Simmons would have been a better pick last year since Young has not transformed that DL like everyone said he would.Thought you've only watched 2 quarters of football, and they both were Ravens games?
Stop trying to turn this into something else. It's not about me, it's about Chase Young being over rated...a discussion you and I had before he was ever drafted. At this point, with word coming out about your 1st round LB pick being a tad slow to the NFL game, Isaiah Simmons would have been a better pick last year since Young has not transformed that DL like everyone said he would.
Over the course of last year and the year before, Young's senior year and rookie years, he has shown up big in meaningless games against weak opponents and disappeared in the big games against good tackles. You know it, I know it.
And for what it's worth, everyone,...including the coaches here and all over the NFL...were touting this kid as the best DE to come out of college in a lifetime. He has proven to be nothing of the kind.
He is good, but not as good as advertised, not even close. And I don't really want to hear the "He's a rookie" argument. He was advertised as something he has not proven to be.
Is he good? Yes!
Does he have potential? If he learns something other than a bull rush.
Have I watched as many games as I said...yup, the end of 2 prime time games! But I can read a stat line? You better believe I can and Young's 4 tackles in 2 games against suspect offensive lines is not too impressive.
The point was you threw out if anyone had watched film after you've publicly made a point to say you refuse to watch the team. It's an ironic argument and it destroys your credibility, when the only posting you do about the team is negative.
And once again, I have to repeat myself because people seem to have a difficult time with reading comprehension. First off, I have praised several players on WTF, Montez Sweat, Cole Holcomb, and Heinicke are a few of them...talk about focusing on the negative.
Yes, this season I have watched the end of 2 Ravens games solely because they were prime time games. Had less to do with the teams playing, as it did being prime time. I'd rather take my kids to a pumpkin patch, or take my son fishing, or something we won't be able to do in a couple months once the weather changes.
In regards to Chase Young, you are conflating a statement I made about football this season with my claims about Chase Young not living up to the hype, based on his past play.
I have repeatedly cited a body of evidence that is from last year with WTF and the year before at OSU...it's all we really have to work with at this point. There are 2 full seasons of tape to watch of him that don't include the 2 games from this year.
So, I only threw in the stats from this year because the Giants and the Chargers both have suspect offensive lines, yet he managed only 4 tackles in those 2 games...no sacks, no tackles for loss...a whopping 4 whole tackles.
What should be concerning about that fact is that he is actually pretty good in the run game. How do I know that? Because I have watched film on him...not whole games that are a waste of my Sundays at this point because I am too busy taking my kids outside.
You know they have game film available to casual fans these days, right?
Also...for anyone who actually thinks that Chase Young is double teamed every down, you're delusional!!! Is he double teamed? Of course, all DE's get double teamed at some point during games and Chase gets some doubles. But Chase Young does not get double teamed if the opposing team has a quality LT because the more film available on him, the more coaches realize they don't have to keep 2 men on him a lot.
FFS, the reason I don't switch teams to the Ravens is because a lot of their fans are insufferable homers! There are plenty of reasons not to like the WTF anymore, but f**k! I never thought of some of you as blind homers. It's like any level of criticism of your team or a player is like launching a torpedo at your house or something....then come the personal attacks.
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