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Fire....Jim....Haslett! Because he SUCKS!!!

I tell you what Lanky. I have no way to prove it. But I'm convinced that a Ritchie Petitbon would have this same group, injuries and all, in the middle of the pack, defensively, instead of dead...****ing...last.

On his best day, Haslett MIGHT be a decent coach, at best. He never has been, and never will be, great.

Or, very good, for that matter.

But I assure you, while he's still here, I'm hoping with every part of my being, that he proves me wrong.

I agree, he wouldn't have been in my top 10 for a new DC when he was hired, but now that he's here, I think firing him and starting over would be a mistake.

As far as your Petitbone comment, I'll refer you to your post about Gary Clark in the other thread. We all know Petitbone's used toilet paper produced perfect defensive schemes & he often coached blindfolded with ear plugs in, making coaching changes based on wind currents from the players - but I think even he would struggle to cover up the deficiencies in this secondary.
 
I am no fan of Jim Haslett-I'd like to make that known up front. We could seriously use a better DC.

However, think John Keim gives the most insightful-and least knee-jerk derived analysis of the Cruz TD 've read yet.

Let’s go right to the 77-yard touchdown pass. The knee-jerk reaction, clearly, is to blame defensive coordinator Jim Haslett. If you want to knock his schemes and the lack of pressure, go right ahead. If you want to question adjustments, go ahead. But it’s awfully difficult to blame him for the coverage mishap on this play. In fact, it’s misguided. A coordinator puts defenders in position and then it’s up to a player to do the rest. He assigned two players to stop the most dangerous target on the other team. Not a bad idea. In this case, corner Josh Wilson and safety Madieu Williams failed to execute a double team. Actually, Williams deserves more of the blame. It’s clear based on Wilson’s alignment at the snap he’s expecting – and needs – safety help over the top. Wilson is shaded inside and never looks at the quarterback. Williams, though, perhaps because of a receiver to the outside, was flat-footed. Here’s the thing: based on how Wilson was aligned, it’s easy to deduce there should have been no hesitation.
On this play, it’s an easy read for the receiver. With Wilson inside and Williams shaded to the outside, Victor Cruz runs a straight go-route. As Wilson said, Cruz hadn’t done much of anything before this catch – six catches for 54 yards. It wasn’t just Wilson covering him; Wilson would shadow him for a series but other times Wilson would show up and then drop into deep middle in a cover-3 look. But back to Haslett. Obviously the defense hasn’t produced enough under Haslett. They allow too many big plays. However, this one falls on the players, Williams in particular. If you don’t like Williams starting, that’s another matter. The Redskins did not have the best plan at safety, hoping Tanard Jackson – who had multiple drug suspensions before he signed – would be their starter. But Williams is the guy; the alternatives are few. Williams is a steady guy, but lacks speed. That’s been evident in other games and it impacts the coverage. I just don’t think the corners trust the safeties all that much right now to be where they need to be and at the right time.

Link: http://washingtonexaminer.com/giants-27-redskins-23-ten-observations/article/2511372

Reed Doughty, BTW, in my opinion is simply not athletic enough to have stopped Cruz-even if he had been in the best position to attempt a stop. The guys smart and has a lot of heart and plays hard-but his lack of athleticism is his undoing.

Giving up big pass plays consistently is a big problem for the Redskins-and that does fall on Haslett's and Morris' shoulders.
 
I am no fan of Jim Haslett-I'd like to make that known up front. We could seriously use a better DC.

However, think John Keim gives the most insightful-and least knee-jerk derived analysis of the Cruz TD 've read yet.

I'd agree with Keim if our defense had been sound and rarely beaten in that you can't point the finger at Haslett. The players must also be held accountable. Williams really **** the bed there. That play was without a doubt on him. But, given that's not the first time the secondary has been torched, that also falls on coaching... Specifically the defensive backs coach (Raheem Morris) and the coordinator (Haslett).

Reed may not have been athletic enough to stop it, but at least he would have been somewhere in the vicinity if that were to him.

Pugh probably could have done it.

But saying that is hindsight. In reality, Williams should have done it. And that was a piss poor effort on his part and completely unacceptable. But the coaching staff has a job to prepare its players for every scenario. Haslett hasn't done that very well this year.

We've only had one guy throw for under 300 yards on us this year. Jay Gruden exposed a tendency against Haslett (cover 0 every time he saw a Wildcat look) and threw for a touchdown. It was later hinted that the team hadn't even prepared for Sanu throwing there. The players weren't even lined up right.

It's not JUST this play that points the finger at Haslett. In isolation, without the other incidents, this play is the fault of one man: Madieu Williams.

However, given the total sample size, it's three men: Williams, Morris and Jim Haslett.


Giving up big pass plays consistently is a big problem for the Redskins-and that does fall on Haslett's and Morris' shoulders.

Exactly.
 
bottom line after the investment we made in the defence, there is no excuse for the absolutley atrocious rankings. im ok woth waiting until the end of this season but the day its over I hope Haslett is gone. said it from the start, he is a good motivator but coaches like that always come down to earth, you can only play on emotion for a game or two.
 
Matt Bowen always does a nice job with film breakdown. Here is his latest with the 77yd TD heard around the DMV.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Playbook-Victor-Cruzs-TD-to-beat-the-Redskins.html

Half decent concept, very poor execution seems to be the consensus here. I often wondered why D Hall was seen in the photographs of the TD as the closest defender.... Now I can see why.

Not that I need any excuses, but man do plays like this make me miss ST21 more and more every time it happens. We should be renamed to the Washington shoulda, coulda wouldas.
 
Haven't read all the posts, so maybe this has already been said. Ditka said it was the worst scheme in that game time situation that he has ever seen.

that's all I need to know. That's on Haslett. He is a loser whereever he has been. No different in Washington. We need to move on.

I won't make any excuses for him, yes we suck on defense and our secondary sucks so bad, none of our guys can play for anyone else. Hall? doubt it.

Knowing that we suck, the coordinator must play prevent. The game is on the line, if they beat us at that, well.....better than throw the game away with one pass. pitiful.

I defer to Ditka, he knows defense don't ya think?
 
How about you all are correct?

Haslett was not responsible for a veteran like Madieu Williams being out of position on the Cruz pass BUT at the same time Jim has done little to separate himself as a superior coordinator.

Those zero blitzes last year against Dallas were killers. Hall was mauled by the taller wideouts he faced and your call leaves him out there in man on a guy 6 inches taller?

On third and forever?

You have to play to your personnel and not to your own likes and dislikes.

Remember Gibbs started here 0-5 because he thought he would come in and install the SD offense without Fouts, Winslow, Jefferson and Chandler.

It's only when he started to scheme around the talents on the roster that the team rebounded to go 8-3.
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Those zero blitzes last year against Dallas were killers. Hall was mauled by the taller wideouts he faced and your call leaves him out there in man on a guy 6 inches taller?
And since then we've (as a fan base) been bitching about how conservative he is and how his defense can't get any pressure on the QB.

Bad plays make coaches look bad. Bottom line. No coach is going to be worth a **** with this defense. Our line can't get enough pressure and our db's cant cover.

We can't drop enough back in coverage to shut down WR's and we can't blitz enough to get adequate pressure on the QB.

I don't care what coach you put over on that sideline he's not going to do dick with this defense.

Those zero blitzes were designed to pressure the QB before someone could go 16 yards to catch the first down - instead Romo danced around and our secondary got burned. The other option was to not pressure him and let him pick us apart with the same tall WR's matched up against the same short DB's.

None of that is to suggest that Haslett is a good coach. Just that the criticism seems to be overly focused on one guy and from week to week there seems to be quite the contradictions in people's reasons as to why he sucks. Now it's because he's too conservative, but back then it was because he's too aggressive.
 
On second thought, maybe the criticism has been consistent in that he's always something, but never the right something
 
Worst secondary in the league?

We're on pace to give up the most passing yards ever. It's worse than we think :)

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Worst secondary in the league?

We're on pace to give up the most passing yards ever. It's worse than we think :)

Exactly...and while some of that is coaching, a lot of that is the talent. I think we will see our number 2 pick being used on a CB this year.
 
Exactly...and while some of that is coaching, a lot of that is the talent. I think we will see our number 2 pick being used on a CB this year.

Agreed. And we need Minnefield to fully recover and play like the second round guy everyone projected him to be this year. Right now, I would go DB in the second and OL in the 3rd next year.
 
I hope Minnefield can contribute - but I have a sinking suspicion that the reason he fell out of the draft completely is that no teams had any confidence in him doing so. Its a common story in the NFL, unfortunately - we can only hope everyone got this one wrong!
 
He played well in mini-camps and early training camp though, Lanky. In fact, he seemed to be playing better than any of the other DBs, including Wilson, Hall and Griffin. His name was mentioned in a positive way nearly every day. Time will tell though. He might not have it and he might never recover from the leg either.
 
I meant based on his injury - not due to any lack of talent.
 
one second round pick isnt going to do it, we need to be looking hard at every possible free agent, and how much if anything of an upgrade they would be over what we have. this team has some upside though, and on offence especially we should be seeing imprvement, its on the Dside that we will need a DC who can cover holes adequately at least for a season while we invest yet more resources into a Defence that was already almost 100% overhauled in the past 2 seasons.
 
I think counting in this discussion is that the Redskins need to STOP looking at adding new players that are coming off a series of major injuries and are still finding their way back. We need a healthy roster going into the season, the 16 game grind is hard enough without carrying guys that are ony 80% to start out with.

In the recent past we have brought in Atogwe, Cedric Griffin, Josh Morgan, Jammal Brown and others that missed most if not all of the previous season with their former clubs.

That is costing us as Atogwe was never healthy here. Brown has never been healthy. Morgan played 3 games last year out of 16 and we gave him $12M.

How are you successful doing that? You don't see the Giants wasting $12M on a guy who has been a backup in SF and who is coming off an injury. That type of player yells out for a bargain and incentive deal.

Cedric Griffin came off TWO ACL reconstructions in Minnesota and simply lost too much speed to be a factor at CB for the Vikings.

There was some talk here of moving him to safety here which to me made some sense as he is a good tackler and physical player.

But at 30 his days of covering receivers on the outside down the field are over.

For 2013, I think we need to use our top pick on a DB, either CB or FS, and FA to find the other partner in that pair.

We have enough money to sign one or two name free agents and we need to make them count.

No more refugees from a MASH ward!

We need healthy ballpayers who come in without significant issues on or off the field.
 
I think counting in this discussion is that the Redskins need to STOP looking at adding new players that are coming off a series of major injuries and are still finding their way back. We need a healthy roster going into the season, the 16 game grind is hard enough without carrying guys that are ony 80% to start out with.

In the recent past we have brought in Atogwe, Cedric Griffin, Josh Morgan, Jammal Brown and others that missed most if not all of the previous season with their former clubs.

That is costing us as Atogwe was never healthy here. Brown has never been healthy. Morgan played 3 games last year out of 16 and we gave him $12M.

How are you successful doing that? You don't see the Giants wasting $12M on a guy who has been a backup in SF and who is coming off an injury. That type of player yells out for a bargain and incentive deal.

Cedric Griffin came off TWO ACL reconstructions in Minnesota and simply lost too much speed to be a factor at CB for the Vikings.

There was some talk here of moving him to safety here which to me made some sense as he is a good tackler and physical player.

But at 30 his days of covering receivers on the outside down the field are over.

For 2013, I think we need to use our top pick on a DB, either CB or FS, and FA to find the other partner in that pair.

We have enough money to sign one or two name free agents and we need to make them count.

No more refugees from a MASH ward!

We need healthy ballpayers who come in without significant issues on or off the field.


im with you on this one... I'd love to see us take a CB early, followed up by o-line and d-line
 

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