Edit: same for you, Mike. You guys both are very comfortable stating as fact that the playcalling is clearly different for Rob vs the other two. I know what we see transpire certainly LOOKS different, but it seems to me you're both making assumptions that can't be supported without knowing what the calls have actually been. Can you both at least admit that the initial call on a given play and what ends up transpiring after the ball is snapped aren't always going to be identical?
Me too, brother.You asked me for an opinion and I gave it to you. Am I on the sidelines or listening to the plays coming in on the helmet? No, but I have an opinion from what I see on the field and I stated it.
I have admitted that...my last post before this where I said I know he doesn't make all the right calls and that I would be stupid if I did.
I am actually just having a conversation here like you, man. I am as frustrated as you are but I am trying to figure out why Gruden did what he did.
Disagree, Mike. If Bob dumps off that 3rd and 16 and jogs off the field, we're not looking for reasons to blame Gruden. We're talking about Sherff getting blown up on that one pass pro, Willie Smith's next occupation, and whether or not the Skins' starters simply showed up flat and not ready to play last night.
Me too, brother.
I didn't so much as for your opinion as I did ask why you seem so sure that Gruden called different plays for Rob vs the other guys, that's all. Because if he did, his possible reasons for it would be a bigger story than anything that's happened this offseason this side of McLovin getting hired.
To me the two big questions that come out of last night are
1) why did we struggle so much physically on pass pro last night and was it aberration or a really bad sign
2) to what extent, if any, did Rob contribute to the awful showing in his four possessions
QB's have options on plays. You know that right?I'm not really sure what you are saying here. Do YOU know what's being called? Maybe you could at least admit that Robert is likely running the given play as called...otherwise, I'd say he's likely insubordinate and would likely be benched for not running the play.
Yikes, again, you keep giving Gruden a pass for what most of us are seeing as poor play calling...especially when it means going away from RG3's strengths.
You may have missed it, but a lot of Redskins nation think Gruden was deliberately calling the game to put RG3 in jeopardy. I don't believe that. I just think Gruden's incompetence is on full display.
I can see that. I don't know anything concrete and conspiracy theories are for hippies!!
Truth is; I don't know. I want to blame Griffin, Callahan, the OL, Gruden....hell, I would even blame Portis for his horrible commentating if I thought it would help us win. But I have zero solid answers; only thoughts and opinions. Those along with $1 will get you a cup of coffee nowadays.
None of us know what he was doing. Which is kinda my point.I'll tell you this, Om. I watched the first quarter or so. When I turned it off I texted one of my friends "Let me know when Bob snaps in half."
Literally seven minutes later I get the text "Bob is down. Bob is down."
It was pretty obvious Griffin wasn't going to last much longer behind that line the way he was handling the pressure. I honestly have NO idea what Gruden was doing. And I'm no so sure he did either.
None of us know what he was doing. Which is kinda my point.
I do have to wonder what the narrative would have been this morning had he pulled Rob after three series. I'm guessing at least some of the same punditry excoriating Gruden today for failing to pull Rob earlier would have been excoriating him for not giving Rob a chance to play his way out of a bad start, give the offense something positive to end/grow on, etc.
Word is he already had the concussion then and was dizzy
I'm curious about something that's been raised a couple of times ... does anyone really think the Skins are calling a different offense for Robert than they are for Cousins and McCoy?
And if they are ... why?
Actually, this was a good bit of rebuttal on your part...well, until the end of course.
So, when do you think we'll end up with a winning record? This year, next year or beyond? Or, does it not matter to you?
Serious question.
I would like to answer that one tr. I'm seeing two more years after this, say year 2018 for a winning record. Also seeing contending year after year after 2018.
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