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    Man I hope The Bruce isn't trying any funny business with one of our good o-linemen.

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    PHOENIX -- Redskins team president Bruce Allen said contract talks with right guard Brandon Scherff are "on-going" as the team seeks to prevent him from hitting free agency next offseason. However, when asked about defensive end Matt Ioannidis, whose contract also expires after this season, Allen said there's "nothing to say right now." As of now, Scherff is playing under the option year of his contract with a $12.5 million cap hit. He's coming off a torn pectoral injury, but is seen as a crucial part to the future. Ioannidis blossomed over the past year, but his situation will be interesting to watch. The Redskins have four other young defensive linemen, including first-rounders Jonathan Allen and Daron Payne. If the other young linemen -- Tim Settle and Caleb Brantley -- play well this year, would the Redskins decide Ioannidis is a luxury? But, as of now, there's no doubt the defense is much better with him on the field....."
    Another possibility is that his agent is playing hardball and they are asking for crazy money. Will be interesting to see what happens...


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    What are everyone’s thoughts on the new replay rule? I personally think this is a disaster waiting to happen. I know they are trying to make sure an obvious missed call is not missed, but I fear we are going to have much less obvious calls being made via replay late in games that would have never been called before. And those will alter games. Pass interference is such a subjective call as well, just like holding, or even our favorite roughing the passer. I’ve always believed that instant replay should be used on definitive rules that have markers on the field where replay make help you see what you can’t see live. i.e. in/out of bounds, over the goal/yard line, too many players on the field, heck even offsides since there is a defined line. We all see how when they changed the catch rule so that the ball could hit the ground and still be a catch, that it just confuses things even more. Replay even made that rule worse in my opinion because replay overturned common sense in so many occasions. The pass interference rule is even more convoluted than the catch rule. I see this being a disaster.

    I’ve heard arguments that it will only be used for the obvious missed calls. But replay in general is supposed to be used only for that. Yet you have coaches challenging to gain 3 yards that are meaningless just to prove they are right and the refs missed a call. Just wait until 3rd down and 15 and the defenses makes a good play to knock down a pass, but then a coach throws his flag and we wait 2 minutes and find out the defenders arm brushed the receivers arm on the way to knocking down the pass, so since he brushed the receiver first, it’s pass interference.


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    What are everyone’s thoughts on the new replay rule? I personally think this is a disaster waiting to happen. I know they are trying to make sure an obvious missed call is not missed, but I fear we are going to have much less obvious calls being made via replay late in games that would have never been called before. And those will alter games. Pass interference is such a subjective call as well, just like holding, or even our favorite roughing the passer. I’ve always believed that instant replay should be used on definitive rules that have markers on the field where replay make help you see what you can’t see live. i.e. in/out of bounds, over the goal/yard line, too many players on the field, heck even offsides since there is a defined line. We all see how when they changed the catch rule so that the ball could hit the ground and still be a catch, that it just confuses things even more. Replay even made that rule worse in my opinion because replay overturned common sense in so many occasions. The pass interference rule is even more convoluted than the catch rule. I see this being a disaster.

    I’ve heard arguments that it will only be used for the obvious missed calls. But replay in general is supposed to be used only for that. Yet you have coaches challenging to gain 3 yards that are meaningless just to prove they are right and the refs missed a call. Just wait until 3rd down and 15 and the defenses makes a good play to knock down a pass, but then a coach throws his flag and we wait 2 minutes and find out the defenders arm brushed the receivers arm on the way to knocking down the pass, so since he brushed the receiver first, it’s pass interference.


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    All depends on how they implement it. Contact penalties should never be reviewed in slow motion, as that biases the interpretation. Positioning, possession...those things can be seen in slow motion, as you are looking for an event to happen prior to another event. With penalties though, where you are trying to establish intent and technique? Needs to be done full speed from multiple angles, but definitely not slowed down.

    When reading intent, everything looks malicious in slow motion. I'm fine with them allowing a replay of a situation that has such a huge impact on the game though, as those sort of plays can literally swing the victory to the other side when they occur.
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    Another possibility is that his agent is playing hardball and they are asking for crazy money. Will be interesting to see what happens...


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    I strongly dislike agents like Rosenhaus (sp), greedy bastards wanting beyond fair price many times.
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    We go and sign a ballsy old vet for 2 years...meanwhile, the Eagles give up a 6th, possibly a 5th round pick for one of the better RB's in the league who is young.

    Jordan Howard to the Eagles...
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    If Oconnell or whoever is supposed to take over playcalling from Jay our run game has potential. AP is a much better than average #2 , & Guice will be running with a gigantic chip on his shoulder to go with fresh legs.
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    If any of you guys posted this before I missed it. Seems Trent had a tumor in his head removed.

    https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/artic...1_127_28772234
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    Highly likely it was a cyst or some other benign tumor on his scalp (vs a brain tumor) from the way they describe it. I’m guessing much ado about nothing - or at least nothing Dr. Pimple Popper couldn’t handle


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    Yeah I get they can’t get too far into details with hippapotomus laws and all. That was the first I’d heard of it tho.

    Let’s hope Bruce & Doug are weighing it anyway with the upcoming draft. Same guys who said we were fine with Lava last season.

    Edit: Those shows are gross as hell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win4us View Post
    Yeah I get they can’t get too far into details with hippapotomus laws and all. That was the first I’d heard of it tho.

    Let’s hope Bruce & Doug are weighing it anyway with the upcoming draft. Same guys who said we were fine with Lava last season.

    Edit: Those shows are gross as hell!
    What caught my attention was that they never said 'brain'... may be reading too much into it, but I would expect them to refer to that if it had really been something that wasn't superficial (ie...outside the skull). Anyway - glad he is alright and thanks for the link (I hadn't heard this). Dr. Lee is a hottie btw...
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    Googling in 3..2..

    Edit: Just like Ed McMahon used to say, "you are correct sir"
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    Vinny would have just said Trent needed to get over it...
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    Dr. Lee is a hottie btw...
    I don't find her all that hot, but when I turn on her show...I cannot stop watching!
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    On Saturday, I was watching some of the football life episodes on the NFL Network. They had the Marty Schottenheimer episode on. I was curious to see how they covered his time with the Redskins. I thought they did a fair job of showing why it didn’t work, why he was and wasn’t liked, what he did well to turn the team around, and why he left.

    But what stood out to me as the one thing he did that I don’t know if any other coach has done since, is that he was a teacher. It showed him at his various stops and how he taught and explained technique. How if you are supposed to line up at 9 yds from the receiver and you line up at 9 1/2, it could mean the difference between a stop on 3rd down or a successful conversion for a 1st down. And just thinking about how the Redskins have played the past 20 years and those are the mistakes that have killed the team. We’ve wondered about accountability and why players aren’t held accountable, but I’m wondering how much teaching is actually going on. How much are these coaches teaching technique and why you do this and do that. My impression of the past coaches and current coaches is that they focus more on scheme and strategy and less on technique and discipline.

    I’m not going to rehash the Schottenheimer era. It is what it is and it was over a long long time ago. And no one is going back in history to change things. But his attention to detail, the teaching he did, the passion he had, those things are what is missing from this team. Perhaps his style won’t work in todays game. He was fired after going 14-2 in San Diego, so perhaps his style worked in a previous era of football. But there are certainly characteristics he had that have been missing for a long time.


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    ...so perhaps his style worked in a previous era of football. But there are certainly characteristics he had that have been missing for a long time.


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    This struck me since I think about that "era" then look at what Belichek has done in New England with a very similar style...tough nosed teacher who prepares his team better than most.

    I will rehash it...it was the single biggest mistake Snyder has made. Kt was nice to have Gibbs II, but I would have rather Marty built a dynasty here...which I think he could have done.
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    Any more local talk of a new stadium deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
    On Saturday, I was watching some of the football life episodes on the NFL Network. They had the Marty Schottenheimer episode on. I was curious to see how they covered his time with the Redskins. I thought they did a fair job of showing why it didn’t work, why he was and wasn’t liked, what he did well to turn the team around, and why he left.

    But what stood out to me as the one thing he did that I don’t know if any other coach has done since, is that he was a teacher. It showed him at his various stops and how he taught and explained technique. How if you are supposed to line up at 9 yds from the receiver and you line up at 9 1/2, it could mean the difference between a stop on 3rd down or a successful conversion for a 1st down. And just thinking about how the Redskins have played the past 20 years and those are the mistakes that have killed the team. We’ve wondered about accountability and why players aren’t held accountable, but I’m wondering how much teaching is actually going on. How much are these coaches teaching technique and why you do this and do that. My impression of the past coaches and current coaches is that they focus more on scheme and strategy and less on technique and discipline.

    I’m not going to rehash the Schottenheimer era. It is what it is and it was over a long long time ago. And no one is going back in history to change things. But his attention to detail, the teaching he did, the passion he had, those things are what is missing from this team. Perhaps his style won’t work in todays game. He was fired after going 14-2 in San Diego, so perhaps his style worked in a previous era of football. But there are certainly characteristics he had that have been missing for a long time.


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    Excellent stuff brother. I too did not know about Marty's teaching side. I had him pegged as a player turned coach who ran a tight ship and knew how to win...at least in the regular season. A disciplinarian but also kind of a players' coach, if such a thing is possible. The fundamentals he taught his players makes a lot of sense when you consider how, almost without exception, they performed so soundly, and were so consistent.
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