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Random Commanders Thoughts

We have bitched about our lackluster offense, and our soft zone defense.

But the Redskins have scored more points than any other NFC East team through the first 3.

Skins: 64
Eagles: 59
Giants: 55
Dallas: 44


The Redskins have allowed the fewest points of any NFC East team through the first 3 games.

Skins: 44
Dallas: 53
Eagles: 55
Giants: 62

That doesn't suck people.

Just think if the skins had remembered to show up last week instead of thinking it was a bye week we would be
 
Next year we need to put Doctson in the secondary. He disrupts offensive flow & ensures no catches to his area of responsibility. Perfect FS material


While Doctson hasn't had a lot of chances this year he has gotten us 3 first downs on third downs by teams holding him.
 
My biggest concern on offense - the lack of a quality RB behind AP. With Kelley and Byron Marshall on IR, Perine inactive (I am not even sure what's up with Perine at this point), and Chris Thompson a shell of his former self - we have zip behind AP. Good teams have to have at least 1 dangerous/solid backup RB to insert late in the game to provide fresh legs. They tried to spell AP with Bibbs today. Bibbs is great as a quick change of pace back. But he's not a workhorse who can sub for AP when he gets fatigued late in the game.

I know most of you would say WR is a bigger deficit. But we're actually in better shape at that spot (meaning, we have healthy players) than at RB. And if AP goes down, then the WRs are going to become that much more critical, and that's not necessarily a good thing for our Redskins.

We need a quality backup RB - either Perine, Kelley (who could return after 8 games theoretically), or we need to try and trade for one.
 
Some info from the official who threw the roughing flag on Matthews today:

Kareem Copeland (Washington Post) I was just trying to get an explanation of the personal foul against Clay Matthews, how that was called on the sack?

Craig Wrolstad: On the sack on the roughing the passer?

Yes, roughing the passer.
So that's not a new rule. I had judged that the defender landed on the quarterback when he was tackling him with most or all of his body weight and that's not allowed. If you do that, it's roughing the passer. So that was basically my key, that he landed on him with most or all of his body weight and that was my ruling, roughing the passer.

Can you explain when he's coming forward, you know, kind of directly into the quarterback, how he's supposed to avoid that?

Yes, I think there's been some examples on the media tapes. But if you've got a shoulder into him and then landed on him with most of his body weight off him or released him when he went down, then he would have been ok. But in my judgement, I ruled that he landed on him with most or all of his body weight there.

And how was that different – there was a sack by Daron Payne on Aaron Rodgers – and we can actually hear Rodgers talking to you, the mic was still up and so people were trying to figure that out, how those two plays are different? Because it seemed like Daron kind of went down on Rodgers with his weight also.

I don't know exactly what play you're talking about, but from my memory that was the only play I had where I had roughing the passer today. I don't know which play you're talking about, I'm sorry. There were a lot of QB hits today.

When you have a repeat offender out there, do you guys tend to watch a little bit closer?

No. We take every play by itself. It's just a reaction, we react to the play. I didn't know what number the guy was until after I threw the flag, so we don't deal with that.


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My first thought is.... When is the last time an NFL official was interviewed after a game? Is this the NFL trying to protect their rules? Seemed odd.

After listening to multiple media folks, it does seem this is the letter of the law..... But if so, it's a bad rule. There's a difference between pile driving someone and finishing a tackle.
 
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FYI - Niles Paul was the converted WR to TE, not Jordan Reed.

About the personal foul/roughing the passer call. I knew it would be called when I saw Matthews land with the full body on Smith. It was obvious. I don't like that rule, but the league made forceful, insistent, and adamant points about it in the off-season. Matthews quickly raised his hands just before the flag was tossed, as if to make a point that he thought it was legal. He likely knew the flag was coming as soon as the hit was made.

BB, I agree with you on the call. It's not a good rule, but it was called correctly. The irony is that rule was put in place as a reaction to the Rodgers injury last year, and Clay Matthews has committed this very foul a few times. A few other thoughts about this call from today.

1. It had no bearing on the game. After that play, the Redskins committed 2 penalties and the drive stalled and they punted.

2. When I first saw the play, I didn't know why they called that penalty. But then they showed the replay of the one last week as well and I figured out what Matthews is doing. When he is sacking these QBs, he's not only driving his shoulder down, but he's leaving his feet so that all his body is driving the QB into the ground. I'm sure he's always sacked that way, but now with the new rule, he's going to have to learn not to drive the QB through the ground like he tries to do. Clearly the refs are watching for this very thing.

3. The rule should be changed, because it is a bad rule. Tony Dungy said at halftime of the Sunday night game that we all know the difference between driving the QB into the ground and just tackling a player. The rules committee is going to have to re-visit this one. I think it makes it too hard on the refs because there isn't much room between a good sack and an illegal one at this point.
 
Dotson is officially a bust. The great purge of McLovin players can't finish soon enough.

I'm not ready to call him a bust quite yet. He had a bunch of targets yesterday and drew 3 PI calls. On the endzone one he was completely mugged.

I agree he needs to show up during a game properly at some point but I'm still giving him some benefit of the doubt at the mo.
Week 1 was a much more run orientated game, week 2 Smith was off his game, and this week he had a bunch of targets but was victim of some Pass Interference.

Some players just take a little time to make the leap. Look at Ioannidas this year! He's balling this year and in the past we almost cut him!

Doctson was a little unfortunate on the fade last week when the DB had his arm in between Doctsons. Otherwise he was coming down with that ball.
This week he was mugged in the endzone.

Sometimes it's just the run of the play, bad luck. Hauling those two in would have given him 2 TD's in the season and we might be talking differently.

Plus I think we're still seeing the results of Smith learning chemistry with his receivers. Reed became his favourite target this week after being MIA in the last couple of games. Thompson was a non factor this week after being huge in week one and a lone bright spot in week 2. I think the lack of general consistency across the offense is affecting things for all our receivers (even from half to half) but I'm hoping that will settle down the more game-reps they all have together.

Last night was a great game. Not perfect, I still worry about this stretched where we go scoreless and can't move the ball, but the first half showed the potential of this offense that I think we're only beginning to tap.

The best teams need to peak towards the end of the season, going into the playoffs. This could be us this year if they can avoid any serious injuries and gain consistency down the stretch. I think we could be a dangerous team later in the year if we can do that.

(I hope so as I put my pre season bet on the Skins to win the Superbowl at 50/1 odds. :D)

Especially as the NFC is looking more open that I thought.

Watching Rodgers hobble on that knee last night... I don't know if he lasts the season. If he doesn't GB are done.
And the 49ers are toast if Garoppolo's season is done too.
The Eagles look beatable, the Cowboys and the Giants look awful.
The Saints look like a monster of offence and horror show on D.
The Vikings... who knows what to make of them. Buffalo killed them yesterday, we've seen this Kirk Cousins before.
Currently the best teams in the NFC look like the Rams and the Buccs. *shrug*

It's early yet but this looks like a year that could be pretty open at the moment.
 
I'm a bit more cautious.

1. Hopefully Gruden's strategy of not integrating his offense during preseason games will pay off. It hasn't worked in terms of injury avoidance.
2. Gruden's play calling as a game evolves still leaves me scratching my head at times.
3. My take-away so far is that healthy, mobile QBs can beat this team.
4. The rush defense still looks suspect.
5. We still can't seem to throttle opposing offenses on 3rd and long or 3rd and short - getting better but plenty of room for improvement.
6. LB play still looks suspect to me - including Kerrigan.

What looks up?
1. Cowboys are spiraling downward. Gints are rebuilding. Eagles, not sure where their QB issues take them.
2. Alex Smith is the real deal.
3. Reed is still primo. Here's hoping he can get through a season.
4. AP is amazing how fast he makes a decision and how quick his feet are for a man that big.
5. D-line has talent, d-backs have exceeded expectations though Norman no longer strikes me as a "shut-down" db.
6. Roullier is a keeper.
7. No major special teams breakdowns so far.

Sure would be nice if this team would learn how to put an opponent away. Attendance suggests to me that the fans aren't sure either - this team needs to overcome two decades of history. Can it become a consistent winner?
 
Despite Kerrigan and Smith not getting to the QB, the pass rush was still effective. The one where Matt Ioannidis literally carried the tackle and threw him onto to Rodgers was a thing of beauty.

Holding Rodgers to 17pts (where one TD was on a busted coverage), is something you will take. The offense was great in the 1st half, and had some bad 3 and outs in the 2nd half.

So, while still a bunch of room to grow, it's nice that hey have picked up some wins as they are working things out.

Also, I can't lie - I chuckled when I saw that Kirk fumbled 3x, 1 int, and threw up some garbage yardage stats as his team choked out to Buffalo.
 
Yesterday was interesting to watch, luckily the first game my mother came over to see we didn't s*** the bed but there were definitely times in the 2nd half my concerns continued to grow. Overall we won, I'm not going to piss and moan to much about a game I expected us to lose by at least 10. It seems as a whole the NFL has a few teams who were ready to start the season and some just getting their bearings, we'll see if we progress after the bye, and wtf is with a week 4 bye NFL??

Oh and now Minny fans get to experience what we did......
 
3. The rule should be changed, because it is a bad rule. Tony Dungy said at halftime of the Sunday night game that we all know the difference between driving the QB into the ground and just tackling a player. The rules committee is going to have to re-visit this one. I think it makes it too hard on the refs because there isn't much room between a good sack and an illegal one at this point.

Dungy may have said it, but I think that's bullshit. When I saw the Matthews play yesterday, I thought he DID drive him to the ground. It may not have been an epic 'body slam' but he definitely drove him to the ground. How does the NFL define that anyway? Is it defined by leaving one's feet? By lifting the QB off HIS feet? For me, it seems to be one of those rules where you are guessing a players intent, or you are assessing whether to throw a flag based on 'how it looked' - which are the type of rules that get officials into trouble.

I like protecting the QB. None of us are going to enjoy an NFL where 1/2 of the QB starters in the playoffs are backups. But the dilemma is, pass rushers have to be able to tackle a QB in some way in the current system. As it stands now, they can't hit them low, they can't hit them high, and they can't take them to the ground unless they can do it without landing on them. That's nearly impossible.

If the NFL wants to protect QBs, they may have to come up with some kind of 'in the grasp' rule where once a defender has the QB by both hands, the play is called dead. I don't know of any other solution. The goal of the defender at that point wouldn't be to ever tackle the QB, but only to 'get hold of him'.
 
I'm not ready to call him a bust quite yet. He had a bunch of targets yesterday and drew 3 PI calls. On the endzone one he was completely mugged.

I agree he needs to show up during a game properly at some point but I'm still giving him some benefit of the doubt at the mo.
Week 1 was a much more run orientated game, week 2 Smith was off his game, and this week he had a bunch of targets but was victim of some Pass Interference.

Some players just take a little time to make the leap. Look at Ioannidas this year! He's balling this year and in the past we almost cut him!

Doctson was a little unfortunate on the fade last week when the DB had his arm in between Doctsons. Otherwise he was coming down with that ball.

This week he was mugged in the endzone.

Sometimes it's just the run of the play, bad luck. Hauling those two in would have given him 2 TD's in the season and we might be talking differently.

Plus I think we're still seeing the results of Smith learning chemistry with his receivers.

Doctson has had just 13 passes thrown his way in 3 games. He had 78 passes thrown his way in 2017. That's a pretty good indicator that he's not consistently getting open. We can cherry pick a couple of plays yesterday as evidence he's 'getting mugged' and that he's a PI-inducing machine, but we haven't seen much of that, have we? He's not beating guys and getting hauled down or held consistently. About the only pass we seem to want to throw to him is a fade, because it doesn't require a perfect route, or speed, it just requires a tall WR who leaps well. That seems to be the only game he's got. Doctson has never even approached a 50% completion rate. He's caught 38.5% of passes thrown his way in 2018, worst on the team (2nd worst is double that rate). Just for context, he was last in catch % last year too - 10% points less than Terrelle Pryor :)

He's not a very good WR.

Of course we've been a rushing-heavy team so far in 2018. And of course Smith is still developing chemistry with receivers. But Doctson has been consistently bad. He's a total bust imho. I don't want it to be so. But it's so.
 
Sure would be nice if this team would learn how to put an opponent away. Attendance suggests to me that the fans aren't sure either - this team needs to overcome two decades of history. Can it become a consistent winner?

Nice post - agree with 99% of it.

But we DID put Green Bay away :)

The truth is, when we get a lead, Skins fans immediately start panicking. You can't blame them, given last year's Saints meltdown. Yesterday, the Packers tightened up in the 2nd half, scored some 2nd half points early, and the Skins offense sputtered. But the Skins D responded, we held them scoreless in the 4th quarter, and drove and scored a FG to put the game out of reach.

The Packers never got closer than 11 points. In my book, we put them away. It wasn't a close game at any point yesterday. Just sayin' ...
 
Also, I can't lie - I chuckled when I saw that Kirk fumbled 3x, 1 int, and threw up some garbage yardage stats as his team choked out to Buffalo.

It was a Cousins microcosm. I mean... Buffalo... and Minny was a favorite the likes of which we may not see the rest of this season, but Cousins can sure put up some garbage-time stats.

Nick
 
Doctson has had just 13 passes thrown his way in 3 games. He had 78 passes thrown his way in 2017. That's a pretty good indicator that he's not consistently getting open. We can cherry pick a couple of plays yesterday as evidence he's 'getting mugged' and that he's a PI-inducing machine, but we haven't seen much of that, have we? He's not beating guys and getting hauled down or held consistently. About the only pass we seem to want to throw to him is a fade, because it doesn't require a perfect route, or speed, it just requires a tall WR who leaps well. That seems to be the only game he's got. Doctson has never even approached a 50% completion rate. He's caught 38.5% of passes thrown his way in 2018, worst on the team (2nd worst is double that rate). Just for context, he was last in catch % last year too - 10% points less than Terrelle Pryor :)

He's not a very good WR.

Of course we've been a rushing-heavy team so far in 2018. And of course Smith is still developing chemistry with receivers. But Doctson has been consistently bad. He's a total bust imho. I don't want it to be so. But it's so.

STOP USING LOGIC TO DEFEAT MY OPTIMISM! :p

Can't argue with any of that.
 
STOP USING LOGIC TO DEFEAT MY OPTIMISM! :p

Can't argue with any of that.

I've been a Doctson defender since he was drafted brother. I just can't do it anymore. He's a specialist at best. We need a real #1 WR and I don't think he'll ever be close to being even a solid #2 .


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And I'm thankful for your optimism!


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Nice post - agree with 99% of it.

But we DID put Green Bay away :)

The truth is, when we get a lead, Skins fans immediately start panicking. You can't blame them, given last year's Saints meltdown. Yesterday, the Packers tightened up in the 2nd half, scored some 2nd half points early, and the Skins offense sputtered. But the Skins D responded, we held them scoreless in the 4th quarter, and drove and scored a FG to put the game out of reach.

The Packers never got closer than 11 points. In my book, we put them away. It wasn't a close game at any point yesterday. Just sayin' ...

The last 20+ years has bred a lot of negativity in the fan base, we can't help but wait for the other shoe to drop, even when we are doing well.

This years Skins team hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt yet. We're still fresh off the inconsistency that we've had for the past few years, coming off a down game against the Colts and having witnessed what a one legged Aaron Rodgers has done the past couple of weeks.

I think sometimes we have to put things in perspective though. Green Bay are a quality team, and there was no way we should have expected to hold them scoreless. That we held them to 17 I think was a great result. Sometimes we have to remember that the other team has professional play makers too and WILL beat you on any given play. The art of football is to win on more plays than you lose, but you're never gonna win them all, the opponent (especially a quality opponent like the Packers) will get their wins on plays too.

That said... I still worry about our second half adjustments or apparent lack there of. It's becoming a trademark of this team over the first three games to struggle in the second half. I don't like that trend. It's a VERY small sample size so far, and maybe we'll play the next three games and start slow and finish fast. *shrugs*
But that's what worries me the most.

Especially with the next game being the Saints. That's a team that can score! Only KC has scored more points over the first three weeks that NO. However they have conceded just about as many as they've scored. Which implies possibly a shoot out is on the cards and I'm not convinced our offence can consistently keep pace through 4 qtrs. I think A LOT will depend on our defence and how it holds up to Bree's, who's not hobbled like Rodgers was. We need our D to get home on the sacks for that game.
 
I've been a Doctson defender since he was drafted brother. I just can't do it anymore. He's a specialist at best. We need a real [URL=https://www.bgobsession.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] WR and I don't think he'll ever be close to being even a solid [URL=https://www.bgobsession.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] .


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Alas I think you're right.

I don't see a #1 receiver in him tbh or a #2

I'm just hoping he can turn a corner and become a specialist that contributes on a regular basis, and I think he can. I feel a bit like the whole receiving corps has been so inconsistent this year so far. Nobody has consistently been there week in week out. CT was great in week 1 and Reed was a none factor. Reed showed some life this week, but CT disappeared. Vernon has been quiet all season. Crowder hasn't done much to stand out, nor Richardson. MoHarris hasn't even got to the field. Sprinkle's biggest contribution so far is almost giving the Colts a safety.
Also gotta say that last week Smith just looked off on a lot of plays and all the receivers suffered.

Each of them HAS had a game though where they've been a factor. Doctson thus far hasn't, and that's the rub on him. But our receivers are so inconsistent it would only take 1 good game for Doctson to put him back in the statistical mix. Lets just say for example that in the Saint's game he catches 5 of 6 passes for 40 yards and a TD, modest numbers that should be achievable. That puts him immediately on a par almost with Crowder, Richardson and Peterson. (of course depends what they do in that game too)

Only CT and JR have been standouts and even they've been inconsistent game to game.

The two plays that give me hope... The fade last week. He out jumped the defender and had the ball, but the defender (I can't remember who it was) had his arm in between Doctson's as they came down. Gravity did the rest, there was no way he could have held onto that ball as he landed unless the defenders arm somehow fell off. His helmet or shoulder would have knocked that ball out regardless of how tight Doctson gripped it (Unless he went one handed!)

Then this week was the mugging in the end zone. If he hadn't been held back there I think he'd have had that. As it turned out, the PI call on that put us on the Endzone and I think it was Peterson that scored anyway, but those two plays could have flipped the narrative on his season to some degree. Sometimes it's a fine line between success and failure.

Of course there's an argument that an Beckham would have caught that one last week with some spectacular one handed grab. But I think those kind of players are special once in a blue moon talents, and Doctson isn't one of those.

Ever the optimist ;) I'm REALLY hoping that with a few more games under their belts Smith develops a good rapport with all the receivers and we start to see production towards the middle to the end of the season. I'd love to see us start to peak as an offence around then and start really rolling towards the playoffs. I think the D is only going to get better with reps too.

Said it before... I really think we're a sleeper team.

(And I am prepared to be very wrong and absorb your cruel mocking! LOL)
 

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