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Random Commanders Thoughts

Yes, the spate of injuries has hurt. And no team IMO would be 8-1 with that laundry list.

BUT, a resilient and efficient passing game with Cousins, Pryor, Crowder, Doctson playing at a high clip would probably be enough to have this team at 6-3 or 5-4 instead of 4-5 and looking at 4-6 after the Saints game.

Pryor has contributed nothing.

Crowder started the season slowly and after catching 9 balls for 100 yards against Dallas slumped back this week to dropping a couple of key passes.

He has not turned out to be the third down ‘rock' we thought he might be.

Cousins meanwhile missed one TD last week in the end zone and threw a bad pick that gave the Vikings that extra 7 points that we ultimately could not overcome in an 8 point loss.

When healthy the OL and TEs are top shelf across the board but the WR and RB positions on this team are thin and need big talent/experience upgrades in the offseason.

I still wouldn't pay Cousins $120M with $95M guaranteed which is close to what is being bantered around in re a deal for Kirk for 2018.

I would rather ‘go fish' in the first round of a deep draft and look to bring in my own Wilson, Watson, Prescott, or Rodgers ( picked 24th in 2005).

100% in agreement with every point here. If we have a top 10-15 pick in the next draft, I might go QB even if we were able to lock up Kirk. I don't know that Kirk will ever be a top 3-5 QB but he's good enough to win with a healthy talented roster around him. That's a lot more than we've had in awhile. And drafting QBs at the top of the draft is a crapshoot.
 
Compton and Fat Rob to IR - I mean, it's becoming almost comical at this point...
 
6 of our STARTERS are on IR.
(of course, that doesn't count the starters who have missed significant time, or the quality backups on IR - in some cases the backups on IR, are actually directly backing up the starter on IR, meaning we're down to 3rd string)
At some point, the team has to take some kind of appropriate action.
An IPS hire ?
Injury Prevention Specialist.
Companies have Risk Prevention, so why not.
Teams have silly titles, like Assistant Quality Control, so why not ?
 
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Sometimes it's really hard to know if you are serious? :)

On the off chance that you are, I know a lot of guys want to start pointing their fingers at Strength and Conditioning coaches when a rash of injuries happen, or several injuries of the same type. Personally, I think injuries happen because the NFL game is incredibly violent. Unless you've been on a sideline, you really can't appreciate how big, fast, and powerful these players are and how vicious the action is. I think injuries happen almost exclusively because it's an ultra-violent game.

There may be some things you can do in terms of coaching, like teaching safe, solid tackling technique. But beyond that sort of thing, I think a lot of it just comes down to luck. Almost all NFL players are in fantastic shape.

And if you weren't serious - never mind.
 
On the off chance that you are, I know a lot of guys want to start pointing their fingers at Strength and Conditioning coaches when a rash of injuries happen, or several injuries of the same type. Personally, I think injuries happen because the NFL game is incredibly violent. Unless you've been on a sideline, you really can't appreciate how big, fast, and powerful these players are and how vicious the action is. I think injuries happen almost exclusively because it's an ultra-violent game.

Yea, but being an ultra-violent game does not explain the immense disparity between our team's injuries, and the rest of the league.
The other 31 play in the same violent league, and I'm certain they don't come close to our rash.
And I plan on doing the research to prove it.
So, with that in mind, you either have to shrug your shoulders, and say it's all just bad luck, or you do something about it.
 
I think it is all about luck to a great extent. Do you really think that our trainers and coaches are doing anything radically different from every other NFL teams trainers and coaches? We're a young team so age of players is also not a factor.


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Some injuries are bad luck. Some are not preventable, because obviously there's certain ways the body wasn't meant to turn or move.
But are some injuries preventable ?
Absolutely.
I'm sure most practitioners in the health industry would agree.
Why is it some players get injured in a certain physical motion, but others do not ?
 
Can you give some examples of 'preventable injuries'?

As for why some players get injured on a play, but others don't - first of all, it's a false premise - because no play is exactly the same. But setting that aside, there could be existing but unknown injuries - such as a miniscule tear in an MCL, that upon a particularly violent hit, give way. Players have different builds. I don't think it's rocket science to assume greater size increases player durability.

I'm not arguing it's not worth looking at, or that 'nothing can be done'. I'm just skeptical that there's some kind of major fault or failed/inadequate approach the Redskins need to address any more than any other team. If injury prevention is the #1 priority, I suppose you could take an approach that focuses on 'safe tackling', not going for extra yards, filling your team with the biggest bodies available at every position, maybe other things that don't leap immediately to mind.

Maybe you could reduce injury rates, maybe not. But you might also impact positives like breakout plays based on 2nd effort, team speed, who knows...

Not being a buzzkill (or at least intending to be one). I'm just skeptical that there are root causes of injuries that aren't 99% explained by the size and strength of players, and the nature of the game which is violent hits delivered with ferocity over and over again.

I've been wrong before. I think it's an interesting topic.
 
6 of our STARTERS are on IR.
(of course, that doesn't count the starters who have missed significant time, or the quality backups on IR - in some cases the backups on IR, are actually directly backing up the starter on IR, meaning we're down to 3rd string)
At some point, the team has to take some kind of appropriate action.
An IPS hire ?
Injury Prevention Specialist.
Companies have Risk Prevention, so why not.
Teams have silly titles, like Assistant Quality Control, so why not ?

Maybe a witch doctor could help.
 
#Redskins LB Zach Brown limited bc of an Achilles injury. He was spotted leaving the locker room with a walking boot in his hand, no shoe on his right foot.

per Master Tesfatsion WPO
 
Can you give some examples of 'preventable injuries'?

As for why some players get injured on a play, but others don't - first of all, it's a false premise - because no play is exactly the same.


No 2 plays are identically the same, true, but 2 different motions can be close enough, that they are worthy of note.
I once played football. One play, I was on the kickoff team, and tore a calf muscle, just from the very first initial lunging step forward from the kickoff line. There was nothing freakish about my movement. I didn't stumble, trip, twist, or move abnormal in any way, whatsoever. The whole motion was quite normal. And it didn't happen to the other 10 guys on kickoff who were making nearly identical steps. So, why I did I get injured on virtually the same exact motion as the others ?

That's an example of preventable injury. And similar things happen in the NFL quite often.

Surely, if I had done something to increase flexibility, the injury probably would not have happened.
And it's more than just "do more stretching". Stretching is a science. So it's not just about quantity. There's different qualities of stretching, and types of stretching.
And muscles are not the only types of injuries that can happen with a lack of flexibility. If a muscle cannot stretch far enough in a certain motion, then that puts bones, ligaments, and tendons in awkward positions to try to compensate, placing them vulnerable to injury. The body becomes a domino effect. One weakness in one area, spills over into the next, causing all sorts of injury possibilities.

So, tell me. Do you think a gentleman like this is more or less likely to become injured on a football field, if he were an NFL player ?

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#Redskins LB Zach Brown limited bc of an Achilles injury. He was spotted leaving the locker room with a walking boot in his hand, no shoe on his right foot.

See what I'm saying ?
We didn't even sign this guy 24 hours ago, due to multiple injuries at his position, and already he's injured.
Houston, we have a problem. Clearly.
Speaking of Houston - what about Houston Bates ?
 
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#Redskins LB Zach Brown limited bc of an Achilles injury. He was spotted leaving the locker room with a walking boot in his hand, no shoe on his right foot.

per Master Tesfatsion WPO

So, is he preparing to run on one foot & one hand? :handicap:
 
Next question?

Why does the NFL have stupid rules.....

like, a defender intercepts a ball, and you're considered down by contact, if the offensive player also going for the ball, inadvertently and unintentionally taps you with his little pinky toe, as he's falling to the ground ? How is that considered a tackle ? Shouldn't there be at least a little "intention" or effort involved, and shouldn't it be after the fact, once he's intercepted ?
 
Why does the NFL have stupid rules.....

like, a defender intercepts a ball, and you're considered down by contact, if the offensive player also going for the ball, inadvertently and unintentionally taps you with his little pinky toe, as he's falling to the ground ? How is that considered a tackle ? Shouldn't there be at least a little "intention" or effort involved, and shouldn't it be after the fact, once he's intercepted ?
Well, that's 4 questions. Related/intertwined, but separate. You will receive 3 demerits for this egregious error. All future demerits will be accumulated until the offender has reached the, "Walk The Plank" level of violation demerits.

Question 1. The NFL has many stupid rules. This is but 1 of them. The reason they have stupid rules is that they have many stupid people, making rules that govern many other stupid people. The stupidity feeds off of itself. They have become blind/immune to it. Leaving only intelligent football fans, like yourself, to wonder, "Why does the NFL have stupid rules"?

Question 2. It's not "considered" a tackle. It is a tackle. Because the rule says it is.

Question 3. In a perfect world, "intention", and/or "effort", would indeed be required. However, cowardice, added to the stupidity previously mentioned, has driven the NFL to exude it's spinelessness in making judgement calls, like these. Which might actually be, pretty smart. Considering that NFL Officials are amateurs, working a professional game. Yes, stupidity feeding off of itself.

Question 4. When the facts themselves have been initially misjudged, all "after the facts" MUST be ignored to prevent sensory overload by the amateur officials.

Next question.
 
Random thought:

The NFL needs to expand the active roster to 60 and get rid of the 46 man active roster rule on game day.

Also need to do away with the whole 2 man limit on bringing players back from IR and open it up to anyone who has medical clearance is allowed back.

Now I know the League Office will spout some nonsense about competitive balance but MLB and the NBA have no issue allowing teams to shuffle players on and off the injury list, NFL should follow suit.

1: Owners are paying these guys regardless if they're on the roster or on IR

2: Speaking with guys like Pat Kirwan and other retired players on NFL Radio, they all state it's a bad look for the league when you have a team that can only dress 43 players due to the rules.

Thoughts?
 

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