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On the show the boys take a hard look at the loss in Detroit and ask the tough questions about the state of the franchise. Everybody takes a guess on the job security of Zorn.

On Writer's Roundtable, Rick Snider tells us if he has ever seen the fans so upset in his four decades of watching the team, and John Keim tells us it's a culture of losing that must be addressed.

And announcing the return of JC. After a few seasons we bring him back in his own segment.

He has a gripe, and is sharing it with us.