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    Burners Burning Questions Training Camp Edition, Part One


    The Redskins training camp for 2012 has been in full swing for two weeks now and the team continues to prepare for the upcoming season. In typical fashion, fans tend to choose camp favorites and these players are usually longshots to make the team or they choose to cheer for prized rookies who are looking to make an impact. Aging players are looking to keep their careers intact for at least another season. Younger players are eager to gain more experience and establish their long term employment prospects. The remaining athletes are camp fodder types who will have pro football careers that last no more than a few weeks or months. For the next month, BBQ will examine these players as the Redskins shape a roster of fifty-three souls and a practice squad.

    The prized rookies:

    Robert Griffin, III He is the most obvious of prized rookies on the Redskins roster. On purpose, the defense has been allowed to pressure the young quarterback in the early days of training camp and they are not holding back in their schematic attacks. This will be very helpful as Griffin continues his learning curve at the most difficult position in football.

    Jarvis Jenkins Yes, Jenkins should receive consideration as a prized rookie this season. He missed the entire 2011 campaign with an ACL injury and was having a great training camp. He has picked up where he left off and is having another monstrous camp. In a manner of speaking, the Redskins gained a second round pick in the 2012 draft with the return of Jenkins.

    Rookies to watch Josh LeRibeus, Adam Gettis, Richard Crawford, Keenan Robinson, Alfred Morris, Tom Compton, Brian McNally.

    With injuries occurring on the OL, look for LeRibeus, Gettis, and Compton to get extended looks in camp. Morris is looking like a lock to make the fifty-three man roster. Robinson could see plenty of action as a rookie. Crawford continues to have an impressive rookie showing in camp. McNally is still a longshot to make the team, but could be on the practice squad when the season opens.

    Veterans looking to make positive strides in 2012 Kevin Barnes, Cedric Griffin, DeAngelo Hall, Tanard Jackson, Brandon Meriweather, Graham Gano, Neil Rackers, Brian Orakpo, Perry Riley, Tyler Polumbus, Trent Williams, Tim Hightower, Fred Davis, Santana Moss.

    Barnes, Griffin, Hall, Jackson, and Meriweather look to benefit from new coaching that emphasizes their individual strengths and the early reviews are good. Gano and Rackers are locked in a tight battle and both are producing solid results thus far. Orakpo is looking to bounce back from a subpar 2011 and Riley is looking to build on a stellar start to his career. Polumbus continues to build a very good resume at the RT position and could be the opening day starter. Williams and Davis appear to have put a sordid past behind them and both players are having a great training camp. Hightower looks to rebound from a knee injury and Moss is in the best shape he has been in many years.

    Second year players looking to move forward Maurice Hurt, Markus White, Chris Neild, Willie Smith, Roy Helu, Evan Royster, DeJon Gomes, Leonard Hankerson, Niles Paul, Aldrick Robinson, Chris Baker.

    Hurt and Smith continue to solidify their positions as reliable backups and part time starters on the OL. Helu and Royster continue to progress and are now reliable options in the offensive backfield. Hankerson is on his way to becoming a star on offense and Paul will need time to adjust to a new position. Robinson will need to have an impressive preseason if he hopes to be on the opening day roster. White will get more reps in the preseason, but he could be a candidate for the practice squad once again. Baker will push Neild for a spot on the roster and Gomes should continue to provide quality minutes on passing downs.

    Veterans who could be released Anthony Armstrong, Terrence Austin, Brandon Banks, Kevin Barnes, Jordan Black, Jammal Brown, Erik Cook, Reed Doughty, Graham Gano, Neil Rackers, Tim Hightower, David Jones, Bryan Kehl, James Lee, Tony Moll, Richard Quinn, Darrion Scott, Morgan Trent, Chris Wilson, Doug Worthington.

    These players face various obstacles such as age, injury, depth, and competition. Simply put, some have not lived up to the expectations that were expected while others were added for short term needs and purposes.

    Rookies who may not make the team Antwon Bailey, Jordan Bernstine, Lennon Creer, Grant Garner, Darius Hanks, Donnell Holt, Delvin Johnson, Samuel Kirkland, Lance Lewis, Monte Lewis, Nick Martinez, Brian McNally, Beau Reliford.

    Many of these players will have the memory of being on a pro football roster for a few months and nothing more. Some will hope to catch on with another team and a fortunate one or two could make the practice squad.

    Intriguing free agent additions Dezmon Briscoe, Neil Rackers, Pierre Garcon, Tanard Jackson, Brandon Meriweather, Josh Morgan, Madieu Williams.

    Garcon, Morgan, and Briscoe look to bolster a receiving corps that needed a major overhaul and upgrades. Garcon looks to be the real deal while Morgan is providing a steady veteran presence in camp thus far. Briscoe was added recently from Tampa Bay and could prove to be a huge steal this late in the offseason. The Redskins may elect to keep two placekickers if they want to have a kickoff specialist in Rackers and a field goal kicker in Graham Gano. Jackson, Meriweather, and Williams were added to bring new talent and depth to the defensive secondary. Meriweather is having a fine camp and is being utilized in a manner that maximizes his skillsets. Williams is having a better than expected camp as he seeks to revise his career. Jackson could prove to be a great bargain if he has overcome prior injury concerns.

    Candidates for the practice squad Jordan Bernstine, Tom Compton, Lennon Creer, Jonathan Crompton, Grant Garner, Darius Hanks, Donnell Holt, Delvin Johnson, Lance Lewis, Nick Martinez, Brian McNally, Beau Reliford, Aldrick Robinson.

    These players hope to have a future in the game and continued hard work could pay off in upcoming seasons. For now, time on the practice squad is the next best option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgundy Burner View Post

    Veterans who could be released Anthony Armstrong, Terrence Austin, Brandon Banks, Kevin Barnes, Jordan Black, Jammal Brown, Erik Cook, Reed Doughty, Graham Gano, Neil Rackers, Tim Hightower, David Jones, Bryan Kehl, James Lee, Tony Moll, Richard Quinn, Darrion Scott, Morgan Trent, Chris Wilson, Doug Worthington.

    These players face various obstacles such as age, injury, depth, and competition. Simply put, some have not lived up to the expectations that were expected while others were added for short term needs and purposes.
    I read this list and my impression was I wouldn't miss any of them. Obviously one of the two kickers will stay (and go), but overall there's nobody on that list that I'd a) be surprised if they were let go, or b) miss based on what they've done for the team in the past. Just a crop of mediocre players overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgundy Burner View Post
    Veterans looking to make positive strides in 2012 Kevin Barnes, Cedric Griffin, DeAngelo Hall, Tanard Jackson, Brandon Meriweather, Graham Gano, Neil Rackers, Brian Orakpo, Perry Riley, Tyler Polumbus, Trent Williams, Tim Hightower, Fred Davis, Santana Moss.

    Barnes, Griffin, Hall, Jackson, and Meriweather look to benefit from new coaching that emphasizes their individual strengths and the early reviews are good. Gano and Rackers are locked in a tight battle and both are producing solid results thus far. Orakpo is looking to bounce back from a subpar 2011 and Riley is looking to build on a stellar start to his career. Polumbus continues to build a very good resume at the RT position and could be the opening day starter. Williams and Davis appear to have put a sordid past behind them and both players are having a great training camp. Hightower looks to rebound from a knee injury and Moss is in the best shape he has been in many years.

    Veterans who could be released Anthony Armstrong, Terrence Austin, Brandon Banks, Kevin Barnes, Jordan Black, Jammal Brown, Erik Cook, Reed Doughty, Graham Gano, Neil Rackers, Tim Hightower, David Jones, Bryan Kehl, James Lee, Tony Moll, Richard Quinn, Darrion Scott, Morgan Trent, Chris Wilson, Doug Worthington.
    Was Barnes intentionally put on both of those lists ?
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    China, I agree with you and I'm hopeful that some in that group can really take some positives steps forward. If not, then it is time to move on.

    FTS, yes. I have put some players on different lists. There are some positive reports about Barnes in camp and that is good. However, he is in danger of losing a spot on the team imho. Last night's game at Buffalo was another example of him having little to no impact.

    Keep looking for any errors that I may have though. I strive for accuracy, but the mistakes happen at times. Thanks for the comments.
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    Thanks for the write up bb

    I thoroughly enjoy well written pieces
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    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    Thanks for the write up bb

    I thoroughly enjoy well written pieces
    Thanks for the kind words.

    And something of an update...

    Chris Neild hurt his knee in practice yesterday, but it is not serious. He is day to day.

    Chris Baker is looking like a lock for the team and this could push Kedric Golston out the door.

    Leonard Hankerson was carted off the field a short time ago. Looks like it is a heat related issue. Trainers wrapped cold towels around his head and he was put into a cold tub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgundy Burner View Post
    Thanks for the kind words.

    And something of an update...

    Chris Neild hurt his knee in practice yesterday, but it is not serious. He is day to day.

    Chris Baker is looking like a lock for the team and this could push Kedric Golston out the door.

    Leonard Hankerson was carted off the field a short time ago. Looks like it is a heat related issue. Trainers wrapped cold towels around his head and he was put into a cold tub.
    Well Neild's injury is serious now. Torn ACL, done for the year per Shanahan
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squire View Post
    Well Neild's injury is serious now. Torn ACL, done for the year per Shanahan
    Well, crap.

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    At least Baker is playing well...
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    Not serious to serious. Bah. Baker makes the team for sure. Golston's spot is probably safe too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squire View Post
    Well Neild's injury is serious now. Torn ACL, done for the year per Shanahan

    Yeah well.... That just sux. We get another yr outta Golsten I guess, but I was really liking that depth there. I still don't see Coefield as an answer at NT
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    Watch Kentwan Balmer kick down Shanahan's door and be like "I'm ready now coach"
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    if Cofield is not the answer at NT, that takes away significantly from the team's plans for the front seven. Cofield's deal was for $$ for a starting NT, not a rotation player.

    if Chris Baker ends up being the starting NT long-term that would have been a nice pickup but at the cost of a major free agent bust.

    but I don't think Cofield will fail.

    he was switching from a 4-3 in NY to the 3-4 in Washington last season and should be given the benefit of the doubt just as we gave to Perry Riley in 2010 when he was so-so in cameo appearances at ILB.

    In 2011, he played a lot better once he got that second chance knowing the defense and likewise I expect Cofield to be more disruptive in 2012.
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    BD, Cofield has stated he feels much more comfortable having an offseason to adapt after a season that saw him thrust into a situation that left him under prepared.
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    Neild-torn ACL.

    I swear sometimes I freakin' hate the preseason.
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    Good work BB.

    I have a feeling that if Cousins plays well over the next three preseason games, Rex Grossman becomes expendable. I base this on the reports of how the offense is being tailored to Griffin, who is a very mobile QB. The Oline/TE's/RB's all have to learn and practice the changes this involves. If Griffin went down, the plodding, slower than ice cold molasses mobility of, Butterball (for fs), forces them to dump all the new stuff they've all had to work so hard at learning.

    Cousins, on the other hand, would allow them to keep right on trucking, keeping all the other offensive players working at perfecting the new stuff, while awaiting Griffin's return. Makes perfect sense to me.

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    Hope you are putting that question to everyone and not just me.

    I'm ready to move on from Rex, but not until we trim the roster to fifty-three. I agree with all of your points about having a mobile QB in this system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgundy Burner View Post
    Hope you are putting that question to everyone and not just me.
    Nope! It's all on you. You must answer correctly or face the guillotine.

    Yeah, it's for anybody/everybody. I've mentioned it in a couple threads, but had seemed to be the Lone Ranger on my mobility theory being bad for Butterball.

    I'm not, however, the only one that wishes Rex, was an ex.
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    I think they will keep Rex around all season, if for no other reason than to tutor the young QBs on the offense. Hopefully he never plays a snap!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanky Livingston View Post
    I think they will keep Rex around all season, if for no other reason than to tutor the young QBs on the offense.
    "Ok Rex, but what if everybody is covered"

    "**** it! Go deep!"
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