A Burgundy and Gold Obsession
'Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.' - Groucho Marx

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    Default Jesse Ventura on Piers Morgan right now

    This forum probably isn't active enough for people to see this post in time before the show ends, but if you can catch it, Ventura is nailing a lot of great stuff.
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    Ventura : When we went from G.W. to B.O, the only change was the skin color

    Caller asked why Ventura wouldn't get in the race : Ventura : I'm enjoying my life in Minnesota and Mexico. But the American people have to SHOW ME, that they're ready for me to put my *** on the line, for them.
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    Well it's easier to understand if you caught everything in context.
    He was talking about how divided we are between party lines, and nothing will truly change until we remove the letters next to our congressmen's names. So until the American people are ready to separate themselves from blindly clinging to their party on every vote, and decide to vote instead on principle instead of a "D" or an "R", then there's nothing he could possible do to help Americans, no matter how hard he tries.

    I mean, sure, our politicians on both sides are corrupt. But American citizens are as much to blame for feeding into that machine, is what he's saying
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    ventura has been a fake and a loon for a long time...

    he believes 9/11 is a conspiracy by our government against its own people, and told a navy seal at a banquet that it's a good thing his buddies died because lots of our military needs to die before people will leave places overseas (he was then punched in the face for it)

    he can go **** himself as far as i'm concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    and told a navy seal at a banquet that it's a good thing his buddies died because lots of our military needs to die before people will leave places overseas (he was then punched in the face for it)
    That story was proved to be false and fabricated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fear The Spear View Post
    That story was proved to be false and fabricated.
    where the proof it's false?
    quick google search reveals infowar's article, which claims it a hoax but their only support is that ventura's son said it didn't happen. thats it though. (first two pages at least)

    i'd love to have the correct information, so if you have a link to a credible news source please share

    (he still thinks our government set up 9/11 to kill it's own citizens)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    where the proof it's false?
    quick google search reveals infowar's article, which claims it a hoax but their only support is that ventura's son said it didn't happen. thats it though. (first two pages at least)
    If someone is going to be accused of something, the burden of proof lies on the accuser, not the accusee, nor a person defending the accusee.
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    Well, thats int he court of law.

    In the court of public opinion, thats not always (i'd almost argue it's never) the case. furthermore, ventura and his family are accusing a current navy seal of being a liar - yet have shown no proof.

    you're statement was: "That story was proved to be false and fabricated."

    i've yet to see any proof. the only thing i've seen was an article on infowars which only used ventura's son saying it's a lie as evidence.

    if there's no proof other than he said she said type stuff that's fine. i'm completely happy with you and I disagreeing over who's lying in that story, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    but if there's proof the seal was lying, and ventura was in the right, i'd love to see it so i don't make an ass of myself next time i describe ventura as a man who told a bunch of seals that their buddies deserved to die. thats a very big accusation and i don't want to throw it around if there is actuall proof it didn't happen.
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