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    Since we're all (well most of us) in agreement that we will be in the market for a new QB in this year's draft. I've put together a couple of links to reports from the Senior Bowl practices on the QBs who are in attendance. Feel free to add your own links or comments.

    From SB Nation Seattle....http://seattle.sbnation.com/2012/1/2...sins-impresses

    CBS Sports/NFL Draft Scout.com's Rob Rang:
    [Kirk] Cousins out-shined Wisconsin's Russell Wilson and Boise State's Kellen Moore by attacking all levels of a talented North defense. His experience in a pro-style offense was obvious as he made quick decisions, showed accuracy short, middle and deep and thread the needle through tight spaces. Whereas his teammates struggled to find a rhythm with their new receiving corps, Cousins was hitting on all cylinders, spreading the ball all over the field and hitting his backs, tight ends and receivers on a variety of routes.

    National Football Post's Dion Caputi:
    Two days down at the Senior Bowl and Brandon Weeden (for the South) & Kirk Cousins (for the North) have been the top QBs for their squads.

    National Football Post's Wes Bunting:
    Have to admit #MichiganState QB Kirk Cousins looks like a flame thrower in comparison with Russell Wilson and Kellen Moore.
    QB Kirk Cousins with nice bucket throw during team session, spins it clean with nice touch.

    Optimum Scouting's Erik Galko:

    Was impressed with Michigan St QB Kirk Cousins today. Only QB to get the ball out on time and with velocity. He and [Brandon] Weeden so far 1-2 at QB.

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    From the Denver Post.......http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19813326

    The North team has Michigan State's Kirk Cousins, Boise State's Kellen Moore and Wisconsin's Russell Wilson — which means the North has three productive collegians who are all undersized by NFL standards.

    Of the three, Cousins is the only one over 6-foot; he measured in at 6-2½ and weighed 209 pounds Tuesday morning. Those three players would have to show the Broncos plenty to get on the radar, given that Elway has consistently said he prefers a "big athlete who can throw the ball from the pocket" at the position.

    Wilson is intriguing because of his mobility and arm strength, but he will have to show he can make quick decisions because at 5-10 5/8, 203 pounds, the closer the rush gets to him, the more difficult it will be for him to consistently deliver the ball.

    The Saints' Drew Brees is the model for the undersized quarterback because he makes the fastest decisions and rarely holds the ball.

    It is Shanahan who has the big guys behind center here. Oklahoma State's Brandon Weeden (6-3½, 219), Arizona's Nick Foles (6-5, 244) and San Diego State's Ryan Lindley (6-3¾, 229) are on the South roster.

    Of the three, Foles has shown the biggest arm this season, but Weeden put up the biggest numbers. Weeden has had shoulder troubles that pushed him toward football after a stint in minor-league baseball. And he will be 29 years old by the time the 2012 season begins, so teams say he must be ready to play fairly quickly because his developmental curve is not considered that long — as a rookie, he'll already be several years older than a pile of starting quarterbacks in the league.
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    As a Michigan State alum who's watched a lot of MSU games with Kirk Cousins, I say stay away.

    He's smart and a great character guy, and can make the throws, but he's easily rattled and erratic in the clutch (i.e., prone to the bad INT in crucial situations).
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    Quote Originally Posted by China View Post
    As a Michigan State alum who's watched a lot of MSU games with Kirk Cousins, I say stay away.

    He's smart and a great character guy, and can make the throws, but he's easily rattled and erratic in the clutch (i.e., prone to the bad INT in crucial situations).

    You sure his name is not Rex Cousins?


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    From what I have heard about Kurt Cousins he is a great locker room guy but whether he has the skill to be a starter is very questionable.
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    I don't know much about Cousins except what I have read on some of the draft sites. Not a whole lot of complementary stuff. There is always a guy or two who shoot up the draft board based on the Senior Bowl or the combine. Maybe he's this year's Mike Mamula.
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    From the NY Times ....... http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2...s-and-fallers/

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    QB Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State: The argument of being too old is folly. Weeden is mature, smart, and he has a gunslinger’s mentality. He’s been the most impressive QB here in Mobile and could find his way into the end of the first round. As we’ve seen this year in the N.F.L. (Chicago and Houston), teams need more than one quality QB on the roster. Weeden could start for a team in Week 1 of 2012, but he could also sit behind an established starter on a team that is ready to make a Super Bowl run.

    Holding Steady


    QB Kirk Cousins, Michigan State:
    If Cousins reaches max potential as a pro, he won’t be anything more than a Brian Hoyer type of prospect. He’s the best QB on the North team, but he checks down too often. Cousins is athletic and can make plays with his feet, but we would’ve liked to see him make more plays with his arm downfield. He did occasionally thread the needle over linebackers and under the safety in drills.

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    QB Kellen Moore, Boise State: It’s difficult to term Moore’s performance a disappointment because a lot of people in attendance had reasonable expectations for the undersized, weak-armed passer. However, there is a contingent of fans and evaluators who believe Moore is the next Drew Brees, but only more accurate than Brees at the same stage of their careers. While everyone has a right to their opinions, I think they have a severe case of selective amnesia.

    Brees was renowned for his accuracy at Purdue, even his deep accuracy. The average observer is well aware that Brees has improved his arm strength, but the area of improvement was with driving the ball downfield with more velocity. His deep arm always had tremendous touch and anticipation. Brees was always a good athlete with short area quickness, and his ability to escape pressure and gain yardage with his legs was underrated even as a college athlete.

    Moore’s passes are frequently inaccurate beyond 20 yards – and sometimes as short as 12 yards. He is not nearly as fleet of foot as Brees at Purdue. Moore was a fine college player with sound fundamentals, but just because much of the scouting world vastly discounted Brees doesn’t mean they should overcompensate with Kellen Moore.

    QB Russell Wilson, Wisconsin:
    Wilson is a superb athlete, but he’s very inconsistent as a passer. He’s shorter than Kellen Moore and several of his passes tend to sail high. Those passes will turn into interceptions at the next level. When he’s rolling out, his accuracy also leaves a lot to be desired.
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    This one is a video.

    Senior Bowl: Ryan O'Halloran breaks down QB Brandon Weedon--1/25

    http://www.csnwashington.com/sportsn...eedon-1-25.htm
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    I think he will be a backup for a team that has a franchise QB. Saints or Packers, a team like that.
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    Here's an ESPN vid called "Senior Bowl Behind the Scenes" with Todd McShay showing off the new visual analytical tools that coaches and scouts can use at the Senior Bowl practices. The demo of the system just happens to have a segment featuring Brandon Weeden making a pretty nice throw.

    http://espn.go.com/vidp?id=7506852
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