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    The Pro Football Hall of Fame has anounced 17 Finalists (15 modern-era and two senior nominees*) for the Class of 2012.

    Looks like we only have one Redskin this time and he was only on the team for 3 seasons.

    Jerome Bettis – Running Back – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers

    Tim Brown – Wide Receiver/Kick Returner – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers

    Jack Butler* – Cornerback – 1951-59 Pittsburgh Steelers

    Cris Carter – Wide Receiver – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins

    Dermontti Dawson – Center – 1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers

    Edward DeBartolo, Jr. – Owner – 1977-2000 San Francisco 49ers

    Chris Doleman – Defensive End/Linebacker – 1985-1993, 1999 Minnesota Vikings, 1994-95 Atlanta Falcons, 1996-98 San Francisco 49ers

    Kevin Greene – Linebacker/Defensive End – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers

    Charles Haley – Defensive End/Linebacker – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys

    Cortez Kennedy – Defensive Tackle – 1990-2000 Seattle Seahawks

    Curtis Martin – Running Back – 1995-97 New England Patriots, 1998-2005 New York Jets

    Bill Parcells – Coach – 1983-1990 New York Giants, 1993-96 New England Patriots, 1997-99 New York Jets, 2003-06 Dallas Cowboys

    Andre Reed – Wide Receiver – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins

    Willie Roaf – Tackle – 1993-2001 New Orleans Saints, 2002-05 Kansas City Chiefs

    Will Shields – Guard – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs

    Dick Stanfel* – Guard – 1952-55 Detroit Lions, 1956-58 Washington Redskins

    Aeneas Williams – Cornerback/Safety – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams
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    2, of you also count Andre Reed. Though I'd just as soon not.
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    I'll confess, I've never heard of Dick Stanfel. Shame on me. Going to do some digging to educate myself.
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    Maybe we all should., Boone.

    Stanfel was a Pro-Bowl selection for the Lions in 1953 and 1955 and all three years he was with the Redskins 1956-1958. He is also on the "70 Greatest Redskins" list done in 2002 in honor of the Redskins 70th anniversary.

    He later was the offensive line coach of the Bears from 1981 to 1992 and helped create the OL of the 1985 Bears SB winning juggernaut.

    I'd like to see him make it since he made a powerful contribution to NFL football both as a player-on two teams-and also in the coaching profession.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Stanfel

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing...atest_Redskins
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    Hope he goes in as a member of the Redskins. The more, the merrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgundy Burner View Post
    Hope he goes in as a member of the Redskins. The more, the merrier.
    When a former player goes into the Pro Football Hall of Fame he does not go in as a member of a particular team. On his bust stand is a list of teams that he played for.

    So as painful as it is the Philadelphia Eagles is on Art Monk’s stand and the Washington Redskins is on Deion Sander’s stand.
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    Time to start the movement for Jacoby. I mena if WIllie Roaf is on the ballot, where are the rest of the Hogs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Time to start the movement for Jacoby. I mena if WIllie Roaf is on the ballot, where are the rest of the Hogs?
    Jacoby seems to be a no brainer. But then, so did Monk. Unfortunately, Jacoby is probably the only other Hog, joining Grimm, who will ever make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ax View Post
    Jacoby seems to be a no brainer. But then, so did Monk. Unfortunately, Jacoby is probably the only other Hog, joining Grimm, who will ever make it.

    While a later Hog, Jim Lachey really was the best LT we've ever had. We fleeced the Raiders with that trade. I'd think he would be a candidate before Jacoby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Time to start the movement for Jacoby. I mena if WIllie Roaf is on the ballot, where are the rest of the Hogs?
    No offense to Mr. Jacoby OR Mr. Lachey, but Willie Roaf is probably top 5 or 10 all-time at the position. There's only a handful of guys who were better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elephant View Post
    While a later Hog, Jim Lachey really was the best LT we've ever had. We fleeced the Raiders with that trade. I'd think he would be a candidate before Jacoby.
    Don't get me wrong, Lachey would get strong consideration in my book. However, Jake did it for us, longer, and at two positions. He faced the likes of LT, in his prime, for longer than Jim.

    And, his accomplishments, for being an UDFA, were phenomenal, in comparison to Jim, who as a top 15 1st round draft choice, unfairly or not, was expected to succeed.

    Jim had a 2-3 year period where he was the best we ever had. Joe had that early on, plus the remainder of his career only saw a fall off to top 5 best ever.

    Long live The Hogs!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSr619 View Post
    I remember Swann going in and in his speech he started a push for Stallworth to get in. Grimm should have done and should do the same.
    Agreed. I'm willing to bet the team has been lobbying for it, quietly. May be time to start getting loud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuji869 View Post
    When a former player goes into the Pro Football Hall of Fame he does not go in as a member of a particular team. On his bust stand is a list of teams that he played for.

    So as painful as it is the Philadelphia Eagles is on Art Monk’s stand and the Washington Redskins is on Deion Sander’s stand.
    True - however the HOF does designate a member's primary team. In the case of this link http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/teams.aspx they identify the primary team in bold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSr619 View Post
    oh ya..cris carter wont shut up about himself. but that is going to get him in I bet.
    Plus now that he has joined ESPN, they will continue to push him on us all. He will get in eventually, in order for Berman to shoot his wad one last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuji869 View Post
    When a former player goes into the Pro Football Hall of Fame he does not go in as a member of a particular team. On his bust stand is a list of teams that he played for.

    So as painful as it is the Philadelphia Eagles is on Art Monk’s stand and the Washington Redskins is on Deion Sander’s stand.
    I agree, although this way we do get us some Vince Lombardi.
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